Breakingthewall

I don't think so, Better don't take anything for granted, don't hold back on any perspective, don't believe in anything. It' like no one has ever opened the heart of reality because only you can do it. The words of others are nothing, only confusion. I am the only one who is What we do here is reflecting, with the help of others, to contrast our points of view by seeing them reflected in others. It's strange, alienating, but we are human; we need to communicate, to connect.

Even if your structure is made of consciousness, it's an structure. I mean, someone wants stop suffering. He doesn't mind if reality is conciousness, just stop being scared, disconnected, anxious. Then he should see his structure, understand what he is as structure, if the foundation is conciousness ok, but the suffering is there

Yes but what I mean is, from the perspective: reality is an illusion that conciousness is creating, then any realization about nothingness, fullness, anything, would be just an image that conciousness creates. It's a weird perspective . Those who say: reality is an illusion, only god is real, how they know that god is not another illusion?

A rock or a rose are different structures, a human another. "Thinking" is the same as a rock eroding or creating new molecular bonds due to pressure or whatever it does. Thinking is a manifestation of what you are. If you were terrified in Auschwitz, later you don't perpetuate it with thoughts; it's in your cells. You are that energetic structure that reality has shaped. If you think you are the one who perpetuates it, you are referring to the ego, and the ego is the product, not the producer. The point is that if your structure is closed, disconnected, is going to vibrate anxious, and this vibration is the thoughts. If you want stop suffering you have to open yourself as an structure, and it's not achieved stopping the thoughts, that's a kind of mental violence that just hide the depth of the closure

But the question would be? Those visions are real or are just visions created by the self? Illusions, maya I mean, are subjective visions. An advaita would tell: there are infinite shapes that conciousness could take, those are some, just illusions. The reality is conciousness, nothing else. Who's right? I can't say for sure, maybe tomorrow I realize that the advaitas are right. I'd say that no but who knows

One day I was walking in the street and I saw that reality was absolute open in front me, absolutely transparent, limitless. and was totally clear to me that I was one with it and it was total and without bottom, and was empty but was presence. Another day I took a toke of weed and in a moment reality opens and was full of life, like a fire of absolute power where you want be burned, then there was no mind just the life, and was absolutely full , another day another thing, sometimes again one, or the other. So I was thinking, what is real? Then I realized that all are real because they are facets of the unlimited.

Diferent visions in different moments. I was thinking, then the reality is conciousness? Or it's openenss? Is it the same or different? Is conciousness just the presence of the reality, then when the people say that god is pure conciousness means that conciousness is what reality is? Then I remembered what I saw, and I realized that there is not a facet of the reality, not a single thing that can define the reality. Because any definition comes from the form, then all the visions are true, not only one is true

Lie, Chatgpt writes very good, but he's wrong, Yes, there is only this moment, but your angle of perception of yourself can vary enormously. there is openness waiting for you, clarity, glory, and eternal existence. I know you need to believe you've reached the top of the top, the tip of the pyramid, the maximum of the maximum. You've been like this for years, but you're wrong. This game is much deeper than it seems. First, you've never opened yourself to the total. In fact, you'd prefer that it weren't possible so that there's nothing higher than your perception. Your ego is such that you'd choose being the king of misery over an apprentice of glory. Ego, ego, and ego. Exactly what you criticize Leo for is what could be said about you. This is usually the case with narcissists: crazy projection. Well, if you ever want reality, you know, bow your head and stop believing yourself to be Jesus Christ Chatgpt in a competition of enlightenment. Just share, have conversations, learn, go deep, be humble. In short, stop being a narc, would be better for you and for everyone around you.

just my vision now, maybe I change it if I go deeper: If you open your perception completely, you realize that you are the flow of reality, flowing absolutely perfectly. It's not that you become more powerful, but rather that you disappear as self and you are the flow. Then you realize that the flow is absolute will and intelligence. You cannot modify the flow because you are the flow. That is, you are not outside observing the flow and deciding how it should be. It's something that works on infinite levels and is exactly perfect in its flow because it is. If you were to think: Hmm, I should change this. That very thought would be part of the flow. There is only the flow. Existence is not the result of the flow; it is the flow, it's absolutely direct. It's as if it were an infinite mechanism in perpetual motion, flowing over itself in perfect synchrony. The fact that it's unlimited means that every minimal movement has an infinite echo. Nothing that isn't absolutely synchronized happens because "happening" means relative movement, and relative is relative to the whole. Therefore, the highest "level of consciousness" that this mystic we're talking about can access is to disappear completely and become one with the flow, without desire or direction, because any desire means separation. Just apparent separation because that desire is the flow, nothing could be separated, but closes your perception

Well, it can be said that reality is consciousness, or that consciousness is reality. I'm not saying otherwise; what I'm saying is that the idea that reality is consciousness leads to a misunderstanding. First, we would have to completely deconstruct "consciousness," reaching the conclusion that what we call consciousness is reality structured from a self-reflective center that "perceives." But "perceiving" is the act of grasping the exterior from a center, and this is the misunderstanding. But the material from which perception is made is pure reality. There is no difference between perception and reality in substance, only in form, since perception implies two. I'm not saying anything against the ontology that affirms that reality = consciousness, except that it needs to be explained thoroughly. The point is not defining the reality but finding a mental conceptual structure that allows openess. I think it's a fascinating matter, it's a mistake that people get defensive if you argue instead taking the opportunity to develop their frame and get deeper, we are constructing not defending a position, that's why we like talking, to grow together

It's impossible because the flow of reality is God, not you, the apparent center. The apparent center or self is a stable structure that occurs in reality, creating the duality of subject and object, of a splitting of reality. So, everything that happens, down to the last quantum vibration in a neuronal synapse, is reality being, it's the will of reality. It's not that reality says, "I'm going to create that synapse." It's that synapse that is the will and intelligence of reality, directly. It's God. God isn't behind the scenes; it is exactly what it is. So, you, as self, are a structure of reality that wants to levitate your car keys with your mind, and that's exactly what the flow of reality is. If you collapse the self, you become totally the flow, and the flow of reality has no will independent of the flow. Its will is the flow; it's absolutely direct; the separation is zero. And everything that moves do in relation with the whole in motion, everything is synchronized perfectly, with zero deviation, the flow of existence is a whole moving relatively to itself in absolute perfection, without the minimum slightly deviation, because anything that is not perfect synchroniced simply isn't. Movement is relative to itself, then the absolute intelligence arises by the fact of the inevitable perfection, it is the inevitable perfection

Imo the thing is very simple, suffering arises because you are disconnected from yourself, from the truth, your real being, then you feel empty, and you try to fulfill that emptiness with anything, pleasure, ego, anything. As it's impossible from you anxious vibration arises in the form of thoughts. You are absolutely alienated, because the environment demanded it, was impossible another option. The only solution is be connected, open to your true nature, but you have built a psychological structure from childhood that closes you in a bubble, then you have to break it, but it isn't simple because you built that structure because if was the most optimal possible. You are the flow of reality flowing and you shape yourself in the best way possible. Then, changing that structure is not a simple game at all, you need to open yourself to the real power of the reality and flow intuitively, change the information that is print in your cells. Then if you believe that it's something so simple as changing your mental activity, you won't break the surface , and do it is needed. The work is absolutely serious, you have to be a pioneer, absolutely determined to go beyond everything.

@Natasha Tori Maru Imagine you're a woman who comes from a family of successful professionals, very focused on social status. During your childhood, your relationship with your parents was acceptable; they were demanding but not bad people. From childhood, you internalized that you should be accepted, fulfill your role, not be less than your siblings. Love? Well, I guess so, some. They do their best. You managed to live up to expectations, found a partner, a job as a lawyer, and had children. None of this really interested you much; the basis of your movement was not to be left behind. Do you love your children? Well, you think so. You try the best for them, although dealing with them was always tense. And your husband? Do you know him? You think so. He's a good person, he doesn't treat you badly. Everything is so strange, alienating. Sometimes you daydream about your family dying, and you immediately feel enormously guilty. Besides, what would you do? Alone, in middle age, sad. Sadness. Everything is strange, alien. You start having obsessive thoughts about your health and that of your children. You don't understand why, you don't understand anything. You go to the psychologist, you explain things, it helps you let go, but the sadness continues, and old age and death are right in front of you. Then, are your thoughts the cause of your suffering, or a consequence of an energetic structure built in a whole life in contact with an environment that creates those structures? It's real, built in decades, layers and layers of structure. You must be, let's say determinate and smart to penetrate to the bottom and destroy it. Maybe you should be someone determined to conquer the reality. Unfortunately, the most probably is that woman wont be that , but there are medicines, and some videos about self help to have some illusion that you are creating your suffering, and if you stop thinking everything would be wonderful

That's fair, without reading the book any opinion is superficial. I admit that I get triggered by those ideas because I have been trapped in that paradigm, trying to stop suffering and it's impossible, the solution is deeper . But my opinion is just about short videos

What I see is that the core of this idea seems logical and obvious, but it has a basic flaw. It's similar to the core of Dyer and Tolle's ideas. Let's see, he says that you create unnecessary suffering with your mental activity, remembering the past or fearing the future. If you become aware of how you do this, you'll realize you're sabotaging yourself and stop doing it. The matter is not even remotely that simple, and I know this from experience. When you create constant mental suffering, you do so because the structure of your psyche is broken. You, as a psychic structure, emit a constant vibration, and that vibration can take the form of negative thoughts, anger, hatred, shame, etc. This is not because your consciousness is low or because you do this due to some processing error. It is because this is the manifestation of your structure, and you cannot stop doing it because you are that. It's extremely frustrating trying to stop doing it because it's impossible. The only thing that works, and I speak from experience, is to profoundly and radically change your structure. This is brutal work that requires absolute deconstruction and a vision of what you are to the utmost depth, which must end in a true opening to your true, total nature. Anything else won't work. Addressing the symptom (the thought) as if it were the root doesn't work and is extremely frustrating. Hence my comment (a bit stupid, I admit).

the way i see it is that you are only going to experience this life or line of lifes, since once you disappear reality will continue flowing but without you, since you are only a perspective that reality has created at a given moment in its infinite flow. this implies that you are not really you, but reality, only that now you have the form of this self that suffer, but reality does not suffer in the sense that for reality suffering is the same than pleasure, those things are only arisings that occur in the living flow that develops eternally, reality is total and flows in its absolute glory, and you as a self that desires, prefers, fears and seeks are only a temporary vibrational state that is happening in the reality. Then, if you achieve dissolving the self you will realize that you are the reality itself. It's quite shocking. But later you will be back in the self perspective because it's the structure that is happening now But it's very possible that this self/structure when it disappears, it will re-originate based on the energetic imprint of the current self, creating a line of infinite, but laterally limited, experience. That is, you won't experience being me, but rather you in infinitely different possibilities, and I will experience the same thing on another dimensional line between infinite dimensions. This is only what I deduce is possible, not the "truth."

I don't know, they are just my ideas. Any system of ideas is different, the point is where they lead you. No system of ideas is the truth, they are possible keys to lead you to the truth

Could be ideas that helps you to open yourself to the truth, but not the truth. The truth is your true nature, it's not an idea. If you open up to the truth you will say: fuck! The truth! Of course....the absolute truth, what I am, what I always was, how is possible that I forgot it? It's so obvious.... wait....what? I don't remember exactly what happened....what truth? It's impossible to remember, you can't grasp it, you only can be opened to it and be one with it. And it's absolutely 100% maximum fullness, no flaws, no lack, perfect, total glory, absolute jackpot.

Are Leo's insights, not yours. The truth, or enlightenment, whatever you want to call it, is you, it is what you are, therefore "knowing" the truth is being one with the whole. If what leo says helps you with that, great. If it closes you off because of fear or whatever reason, simply forget it. No one can tell you the truth, not Buddha, not Jesus Christ, not anyone at all. It's something that happens when you align your, let's say, energetic system; it's being one with your essential nature. Afterwards, you can talk and talk about it, but the truth opens up, it's not said. In short, don't believe anyone, me neither. It's disappointing, I know, but nobody said that the path was easy

@Mmartinez The ideas that someone transmits to you may or may not help you open up to the absolute truth of reality, but they are never, in any case, the absolute truth; they are just ideas. If you want to delve deeper into this matter, you must understand that you cannot believe anyone because doing so, no matter who it may be, closes you off from the real truth. Even if Buddha appears to you surrounded by angels and demons to tell you: Martinez, the truth is that you will be reincarnated as a rat, or whatever Buddha says, you should not believe him. They are just ideas; ideas are not the truth; the truth is direct. In fact, the best thing is to forget absolutely all ideas, empty your mind, and begin to see. Leos ideas could be a help to open your perspective, but at the end only you can see.

Thanks for appreciating, really I'm getting deeper and deeper, I can't avoid it, it's like a compulsion. The point is that one day you are one with the totality and next day you aren't, then it's not easy to write without fall in some blind points, but humbly, I think that in two or three years I'll be able to articulate a fairly clear explanation of the mind/enlightenment/absolute issue. I hope Leo doesn't ban me because I like writing here, although I've never looked elsewhere. What I see here is that very few people are open-minded to real understanding, so sometimes I get into very silly, aggressive, and sterile arguments that only add stress. It's a stupid attitude that I'm trying to correct.

No I didn't, I just listened videos. I admit I react too aggressively when I hear that of: you are responsible for your emotional suffering and that to solve it you just have to stop thinking, because it's an unrealistic vision that blames the sufferer and trivializes the suffering. Suffering is a symptom, it's a vibration that arises from a fractured structure. That fracture is what makes openness possible, but it must be deeply understood. If someone internalizes that suffering as a mistake they're making, they'll be stuck there forever.

Ok ok don't get angry. Could you call me arrogant and sure I should correct it, but I argumented my answer, I didn't say just that. Anyway, I agree, some expressions plays against me in any case, I shouldn't show reaction, emotional behavior, etc. It's nonsense. But all us are humans.

Sure but your mental activity is the reality.It's not something you do because you're stupid or because you're functioning incorrectly. It's the flow of reality, which splits into two lines, creating duality. The work of enlightenment is to equalize those lines, seeing that they are one. This isn't achieved by canceling one of those lines, believing it to be nonexistent or illusory, but by taking a step back and placing yourself in an unlimited perspective in which the flow is seen for what it is. Then you are not afraid of the unknown, because "unknown" is meaningless, just as the known is. There is the becoming of reality, and you are that. And beneath the becoming is ultimate nature, your essence. If you open yourself to this, you can equalize the becoming of the human mind with external becoming. If not, it's impossible. It's a profound process, not something you do according to the simple logic that Ralston preaches. That's totally false. It's mental castration and it's absolutely frustrating. That's why I point it like Im a smartass, because i see it like a trap of a demon

It's difficult being more superficial. His understanding about human nature is a joke. Then, you cant know the unknown because you don't know it! (Ironic so nice giggle). Okay, well, the human structure is maintained by fear, and fear of the unknown is the fear of destructuring. He doesn't understand it because his mind works by superficial logical obviousness. Regarding depression, according to him, it's all thought about the past and the future. His understanding of how the human emotional structure is constructed is the same as a 14-year-old boy's. It's understandable why he's so successful; he says things that everyone can understand and seem obvious. The only problem is that they're false, but who cares? The important thing is that it sounds great. I'm not saying this for aggression , just to help you to don't get lost in that perspective. It's unreal , just consider it