Breakingthewall

imo shame = death. As a human you need the human collective to survive, if the tribe kicks you out of the cave, you're dead. If your parents reject you, you're dead. If women don't accept you, you don't reproduce and your genes are dead. then very soon something very powerful happens in you: I need to be accepted, it is vital. I perceive that I am not completely accepted, or that I will not be if others realize certain things. my feeling towards it is deep panic. I will hide those things so as not to be unworthy and thus be accepted. paradise is the acceptance of the tribe. hell, the rejection. That's shame. So I'm going to open an Instagram account so everyone can see how cool I am. and then I'm going to become spiritual and I'm going to show everyone that acceptance doesn't matter to me since I'm above all that and in this way feel accepted by a creation of the mind called "god". Spiritual ego. The maze is tricky, the only way out is the total deconstruction

There is only one way to surrender: when you realize that what you were fighting against was yourself. you were creating an internal war where you fought against yourself. Surrender is realizing that control was impossible, a fiction, and the controller an illusion, so you don't need to let go because you realize you never had it. you spill into yourself and the distinctions begin to cease

Buy a torch to flambé desserts, with that you vape everything at once without leaving any residue. those €20 scales are quite precise, an error of 2 mg more or less. It's beside the point, but I remember a video of Octavio Reitig using a normal bic-style lighter, outdoors, that went out all the time. how professional

In my experience, suffering is not a problem. we can endure tons of suffering, and we will be proud of it and forget it when it is over. the real trauma is shame. that is what remains, the deep feeling of being unworthy. That feeling in unbearable for a kid and that's why use to be hidden. the point is that all humans have suffered from lack of love and shame and have hidden it. It's a good thing that the shame has been overwhelming, so cover-up tactics aren't effective and suffering seeps in everywhere, forcing you to take action. when you see that neither works, only radical deconstruction remains. at least this has been my experience

Don't underestimate the effect that such a guy can have in the psyche of a child. there are many layers of hidden trauma, and it's hidden for a reason. unearthing all that is not easy. imo what works amazing is mushrooms. They will make you see things that were there in front of you but you did not see them. You will see how subtle your mind is, its great concealment tricks. I am not saying that you have not done the work, I am saying that the work is very deep. a child hides emotional pain in order to keep moving forward. the adult has the ability to face it but the concealment mechanisms are still active, as if it were a spell

that father you had was a tough teacher. I also had a very crazy one. It is he who has guided you to the gates of real mysticism. loving him is difficult, but it is possible. He's you...you know that in your mind, but it's hard to really accept. it is a factor of separation, of hate. There are so many layers, it's hard to uncover them all. The good thing is that in a case like this it is a necessity, and underneath all of them is the great void that is alive. so your father was probably the best father possible

Yes, and what was that about looking for a camera that would allow you to record the transformation into an alien? That episode is very interesting, on a science level. push the limits, see what happens. since then looking forward to know in detail. fortunately it seems that leo is grounded on earth as always, but that little flight is very interesting

Sounds quite accurate. But you never know...let's see where he arrives.

I've had that realization with psychedelics, but later i came to the conclusion that what happened was that I was in an absolute state where the idea of "out" was completely inconceivable. it was the totality of existence, this mixed with the pov that I currently am, and I mistakenly perceived that my pov was the absolute. Anyway, i give credit to what you say, I think you are a true mystic who has gone deeper than almost anyone

Yes, I understand you, but your direct experience only tells you that your direct experience exists, not that mine doesn't exist.

Yeah, i got it. Simple and perfect explanation

Why? we know little about the mechanics of infinity and its tricks. Affirming something like that is too risky Yes , and at the end the only pov is the absolute, but it's not a pov because there is not a point or a view, just absolute. That's why we could say that any pov is just appearance. But the thing that i can't understand is why amanem, you, Leo, are so sure that you know how exactly the infinity works

On second thought, I don't think what you propose can be called solipsism. That you can't know anything outside of your pov just means that your pov is limited. If there were no limit, you would know everything. So, how does this limitation occur? It is what we should understand, and not reduce it to: only your pov is real, wake up! yes, only your pov is real, but because you are an infinite being that is capable of dividing and blinding itself.

Agree with more or less everything that you said, but i would say that it's not the solipsism that Leo is talking about. If it is, leo has been playing mysterious. I guess you're right and solipsism is what you just explained. It clarifies the question quite a bit but anyway, I don't think it's the same to say: for you your pov is absolute because it's the only thing you can know, than: only your pov exists.

As you say, yes, that's how it is. there is only one being. but in eternity there has been another pov that is not razard at this moment, right? and you don't know it. Does this mean that it did not exist? and if the answer is: yes, in eternity there has ever been another pov besides razard, the implication of this is: there are currently infinitely many povs and I am not aware of them. because currently I'm just a pov, not the absolute one, even though it really is the absolute one. The great mystery of infinity is that it is infinite

Obviously because everything that i could know would be my direct experience. that is a syllogism. but I think you're wrong. solipsism says that I don't have a pov, only you do. I am an empty secondary character in your game. At least that's what Leo's solipsism says.

solipsism is false because it says that your pov is the absolute. This means that only your pov exists and will exist. There will never be anything but your pov at this instant. but the nature of reality is change. Surely you know that at some point you will adopt another pov, right? when? if time is a mental construction. If at some point you are going to adopt another pov, it means that you have already adopted it, there are infinite povs adopted, that is, right now there are infinite povs. solipsism is true in the sense that all povs are you, but that's not the solipsism we're talking about here. what we say is that only your pov is real. In another hand, yes, your pov is the absolute. And mine too. Because the absolute can be divided infinitely and it's still the same absolute.

Have you seriously not understood what I wanted to say, or is it impossible for you to agree with another person? ? it's completely obvious. Eugenics is not the extermination of a race, it is the elimination of defective individuals. sick, weak, useless to society. this occurs in nature automatically. a deer if born with 3 legs does not survive even 5 minutes. the Nazis advocated eugenics to improve the race since without natural selection, according to them, the race degenerates. They also wanted to impose their race on others since in nature the species that is imposed endures and the one that doesnt become extinct The Nazis were stupid and superficial. They didnt understand what means to be human

I didn't say it's bad, just that it's the Nazi social perspective: nature is absolutely efficient. nature practices eugenics completely ruthlessly. in nature there is nothing like morality. So, to reach our full potential as a society, let's imitate nature. this is basically the ideology of Hitler and his collaborators. They forgot something very important, that's why it was an aberration. the human being was expelled from the garden of eden, for worse or for better . It is no longer governed by the laws of nature, but by others, very different: The laws of karma. the human being, to reach his full potential says: I don't care about survival. I don't care about maximum efficiency. the only thing that matters is absolute integrity. he was expelled from the garden of eden to have the option of entering the garden of true heaven. to be god

what you say is brilliant, especially the first part, when you define intelligence and wisdom. Intelligence=capacity to recognize the truth. Good. but the second, when you say that society could be organized by imitating nature... this is the basic idea of the Nazis. nature has no mercy. natural intelligence says: the individual is irrelevant. because it really doesn't exist. the ant does not count, only the anthill, and beyond that only the species, and beyond that, only life. If society use the human body as a mirror, we should kill the old people, the sick people, etc.

gurus have very limited utility. You can spend your life reading and listening to gurus, who will only be able to change some ideas for others. You can spend your life reading rock climbing treatises, and your level will not go up at all. You have to go to the rock every day if you want to improve. the truth is in you, because you are the truth, so only you can realize it. the only thing a guru will help you with is to deconstruct. anything else is fake Leo is a good one, even he's not a guru, because he just point the truth. That could make you to want to realize the truth. That's enough imo.

in recent days you have improved a bit, you no longer use demagogy as a defense against the slightest criticism and that is appreciated. you used a demagogy mixing the absolute that was unbearable. my current criticism is: you speak with total certainty of matters that you have understood on a mental level. you understand infinity intellectually, but you have not become infinity. it's very different . I think you should be more humble. Maybe, since you are so serious about spirituality, you could get 1 gr of 5meo, and you would see what humility is. Anyway, as I already told you in that discussion, where you got so angry, I think you're intelligent, with intensity, and you make good points, although I clearly see your confusion, your ego that clouds everything. we will see in a year

anyone can understand that intellectually. reading a couple of books is enough. what is not so easy is to break the energetic barriers with which you have imprisoned yourself to be an ego, and become infinite. and once done, try to explain to others how to do it. nahm he's a fake, and being a fake in something so serious turns him into a piece of shit with legs for me. the only possible excuse is that he is so dumb that he himself believes his lies

awakening is not knowing things. that is ego in the end. Awakening is first realizing what you are: the infinite. and above all, savor what you are, be it. It is not: ah yes, I know I am infinite since the finite is limit and that cannot be blah blah blah. just ego. infinity is the absence of ego, the absence of limits. to become infinity you have to deconstruct the limits with which you have enclosed yourself. It's not that complicated, but you have to be insightful and brave. there are many traps. savoring the freedom of the infinite is what we are called to. there is nothing like it. any prison is misery

the end of desire is when someone realizes that one thing is equal to anything else, since you are everything. Life is the same as death, pain as pleasure, loneliness as company. you are reality and there is nothing of reality that you reject. you love everything equally. then, you stop wishing, since wishing is preferring one thing over another