Breakingthewall

Yeah, the desires are the limits. they form the self which is the illusion of being limited. what at this moment is creating the fiction that I am a person writing. it's just the infinite reality being, right now. but enlightenment for me is not what leo says: to know things. I know that only I exist, I know that I am creating this for this reason, etc. enlightenment is to be what you really are, what you have always been if you erase the form you are creating with the energy of desire. that is you, the infinite, which is love and intelligence without limits, but above all it is you. you recognize yourself in it, back home. But...there is more. You can go deeper, as leo says, and it's fascinating.

No, you can be enlightened for 10 minutes, and after get limited again. Be enlightened is break your limits, became infinite. When you are limited again, you remember, but the remembering fades, get corrupted. You have to be limitless again

And really i don't think that of the degrees. There is only one awakening: to the infinite empty depth that is infinite full love that we are. Others are aspects of that, and they are infinite, so it's the same one level or another

Yeah but that mind is infinite and have infinite manifestations, inside each one are infinite manifestations. All is only one, and is you and me, the infinite depth. But you exist and me too. As illusion, because are one, but still existing

No games. There are many levels of awakening. For sure I'm awake in some level. And i had deep awakenings lately with psychedelics, but after a day they are memory, they seems unreal. That's the problem with psychedelics. We are not enlightened. I want to go to the deepest possible, and keep the opening to reality full time. No fear. i've already noticed that when someone says they've taken psychedelics and repeats exactly what you say, i'm god, solipsism is the truth, this is like a videogame that i make so as not to get bored, you tell them: you got it, namaste. who knows if you're wrong . Sometimes you sound very profound, like the poem, sometimes very flat, superficial. Same as others here. We are limited, that's the human condition

Seems that he isn't getting the dimension of "others" and also seems to have the duty of never showing doubt. he has attained omniscience. but then you see the video of infinite gods and he starts: maybe there are other dimensions that are impossible to perceive from this one? in Short: I have no fucking idea. which is perfect, honest and real. but then here in the forum, everything is: poor apprentice, you don't reach the sole of my shoes ?. Leo Leo, how's possible that only my pow is real, explain me please - awake stupid, you can't get it, it's too advanced for you. Well....it's not useful, at least for me

You talk about a hypothetical future. It is possible, but first one would have to understand in depth the spirituality and the limiting mechanisms of the mind. we are still taking the first steps. the vast majority do not even admit that it is something real

Yeah, you have to experience the infinity to understand it. it is to lose the limitation of the mind for a moment. until it happens you cannot imagine what it is, since imagining is within the limitation of the mind

But that's true from my POV, right? And in another hand, if everything is infinite, all POV that are inside mine are real too, and unfolds in other POVs infinitely. If not it would be a flat fiction, finite

The observable universe is in your mind. there are infinite observable universes. it is not something understandable from the finite perspective. from it, we imagine infinity as "a lot". But it's beyond that. if something is infinite, everything is infinite. there is no finite within the infinite. there is the illusion of finitude within infinity. infinity is one because it is absolute, there is nothing outside of it. if you realize infinity you realize god, because if something is infinite, it is god. and if something is infinite there is nothing outside of it. so everything is god, there is only god, and god is you. anything else is impossible

Anger is often a very useful feeling. that's why it exists. tells you: enough! no matter the price, death if necessary, but this is the limit. think that without this attitude, humans, who are sons of bitches, will put a collar around your neck, make you suck their dick, be their slave and pee on your face

the guru tells you his movie. you tell the therapist your movie

everything is infinite. nothing is finite, it only seems so. the finite is an apparent creation, that's why they call it illusion. It's not real. it really is infinity, everything is, there is nothing more than that. since it seems to us that we are finite, we cannot conceive of infinity, but it is normal, common, reality.

Yes, but the world is nothing, just a thought. The difficult thing to understand is that the world is infinite, so if it dies, it will reborn. Any breath of god, a infinite cosmos. Infinite breaths. Or maybe no, as the cosmos is just a creation, a work of art, but seems probably that is going to happen always William Blake understood if without psychedelic: If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, Infinite If the doors of perception were clean, you and me are exactly the same, without the slightest difference Multiplicity is an obstacle in your perception, a trick

No lifetimes, all is now. Your life is not real. You and me are exactly the same. We are focused in the experience because we are closed to the infinity, this is the trick. When i had the insight was: when i die, the cosmos finish. You never are going to experience me, because you are doing now, but you are blind to this, that's why you think that you are you. Just a trick

I wrote this in another tread, it's the closest explanation that i can think for now. Probably it's not accurate , the infinite is difficult to think all the experiences that can be experienced are being experienced right now. We are a singular being and at the same time multiple. you and I are the same. exactly. only that it seems to you that you are in one place and to me in another, that is, having two appearances we have split into two. but not in two, but in infinite. there is only one. there are infinite experiences. each atom is you. appearances are just appearances, like thoughts that arise spontaneously from the infinite well that is your mind. They are nothing, soap bubbles. they all collapse into one: you. or me. there is not the slightest difference because those appearances are nothing, since the infinite, being infinite, cannot help but form them, as if they were contained within it by default. one or the other is the same as all together. you can encompass all of them in their infinity and make them disappear, but in an instant they will reappear like infinite soap bubbles. The question is: why are you not seeing what I see? because if we put together everything that is being seen, heard and experienced, that is what you are: god, the infinity well. you open the well and fragment yourself into infinite experiences, within which there are other infinite experiences. and each one has a little engineering trick. a small padlock that nullifies a dimension, the infinite dimension. It is a closure, a firewall, that God, in his infinite engineering, puts in each experience. in fact, you are the firewall. this infinite mud molds your experience. if you remove it, you open yourself to infinity, there is no more bubble. this closure except in rare cases is immovable, except for certain wildcards placed in the program that can be used, such as psychedelics. everything is infinity engineering that you do for a reason: art.

all the experiences that can be experienced are being experienced right now. We are a singular being and at the same time multiple. you and I are the same. exactly. only that it seems to you that you are in one place and to me in another, that is, having two appearances we have split into two. but not in two, but in infinite. there is only one. there are infinite experiences. each atom is you. appearances are just appearances, like thoughts that arise spontaneously from the infinite well that is your mind. They are nothing, soap bubbles. they all collapse into one: you. or me. there is not the slightest difference because those appearances are nothing, since the infinite, being infinite, cannot help but form them, as if they were contained within it by default. one or the other is the same as all together. you can encompass all of them in their infinity and make them disappear, but in an instant they will reappear like infinite soap bubbles. The question is: why are you not seeing what I see? because if we put together everything that is being seen, heard and experienced, that is what you are: god, the infinity well. you open the well and fragment yourself into infinite experiences, within which there are other infinite experiences. and each one has a little engineering trick. a small padlock that nullifies a dimension, the infinite dimension. It is a closure, a firewall, that God, in his infinite engineering, puts in each experience. in fact, you are the firewall. this infinite mud molds your experience. if you remove it, you open yourself to infinity, there is no more bubble. this closure except in rare cases is immovable, except for certain wildcards placed in the program that can be used, such as psychedelics. everything is infinity engineering that you do for a reason: art.

anger is usually a manifestation of fear when fear ceases to be paralyzing. Perhaps you have been afraid of being rejected and that is why you have adapted yourself seeking approval, denying yourself. now the fear is less and you see the need to be yourself and anger helps you to do so, since in some way you are fighting against others, who repressed you (although it was really you who did it)

@Scholar yes, very good analogy. this leads to the following reflection: my human mind is something very limited, very stupid. animal. if I trick it and remove the chimpanzee limiter, it transforms into something sublime, into infinity. Compared to infinity, the finite is a joke, an IBM from 40 years ago compared to a quantum computer with AI. I don't want the ibm. it's a shit. I want the quantum. all time. Is it possible?

It's impossible to understand. there is something, a quality, that does not fit with our line of thought. as if there is another dimension that we cannot conceive, no matter how much we think about it. that is the trick of the matter, so there is no way to see it. our mind has a limiter, like cars, and except in very rare cases, it works perfectly. you need drugs to trick that

you right now are the entire cosmos and nothing else exists, because you are me, completely. what happens is that the cosmos unfolds infinitely. you dress in endless outfits, right now. you see infinite views. you hear infinite sounds. absolutely everything is infinite. when you were born you invented the cosmos and when you die you will finish it. an absolutely infinite cosmos. each atom is infinite, an entire universe. friend, you are me. You are something that cannot be conceived. infinite, total power. you snapped your infinite fingers, and an infinite cosmos emerged. each person you see is you, creating the infinite cosmos, reflecting on itself. It is of incredible beauty, if you saw it you would hug each person and cry and sing. Infinite.....it's impossible to realize without drugs. Shit. See that is forbidden. I think you could get addicted

you are speaking from logic and assuming that certain things are impossible. Assuming that we know the mechanics of infinity doesn't make sense to me. I understand what you are saying and when I have done psychedelics I have had these realizations: nothing can be outside of my experience. but I think it is a false vision, since it's true and false same time. infinity unfolds infinitely. infinity divided by any number=infinity. At the end there is no division, it's only one, but seems multiple. why wouldn't this be possible?

no idea. Before I thought I understood, but the mechanics of reality completely escape to me. I would say that Leo's approach has a basic error. he says: right now all that exists is your experience, and you will experience everything at some point. when? if time is a creation, that is obvious. and who? it is completely wrong. the only possibility is that everything is being experienced right now. but I speak logically. Probably the thing is like the Leo's poem, infinity infinitely unfolding, actually being a infinite singularity of being

Good definition. If you focus on that energy that claims, that desire for yourself, you realize that there is no self, only the energy. if that energy cease, what remains? to be without limit, without definition. Total depth. but you are still you in the sense that it is what exists, albeit without any sense of self

so when you say self you mean the pressure of should be, the need for control and meaning. ok, agree, but even without that, what remains is you. In the end there is only you. As you said above, it is a problem of semantics, and self or you is too broad and confusing.