Breakingthewall

ultimately psychedelics are imaginary, only the absolute is real. whether it manifests after suffering, or psychedelics or going to a cave is completely irrelevant. Putting one of them qualitatively above is prejudice. quantitatively it is reality: the psychedelic is quantitatively superior

Yeah, awakening allows be asleep

The question is: do you want to live without suffering? like a plant? watching with a beatified smile how your 5-year-old daughters are raped and tortured? that is, you deny being human, because you are afraid of the pain that being human means. cowardice. there is nothing wrong with suffering, it is a characteristic of being human. you have to fight and suffer, but consciously. that's the difference. not to retire to a monastery to be fed like a baby to escape suffering

awakening is the breaking of the limits, so if the limits return, there is no awakening. there was, but now there isn't. but are the boundaries as solid as they were? No, they are a bit weaker. so with each dissolution. And not just that. With every dissolution and the following solidification of the structures, understanding happens

Yes, but taking the first steps. On the psychedelic path, I have finally did the first mushroom trip in which there was no shadow work, straight to infinity. This is the first step, not the end. before this, a lot of ego work

I thought you spoke with irony, if i was wrong sorry. The thing is those matters are not clear to me either. I speak based on past experiences, the conversation helps to deepen them, but what I say does not have to be correct, I am not a leo or someone like that, just a few experiences with psychedelics and selfi inquiry.

Irony? Man, don't make me loose my time having a conversation if I'm going to put my best and you are to act like that.

the infinite delves deeper into itself and creates apparent dualities with which it creates a dance with itself. You as a human are a very complex energy structure, with many layers, which includes the apparent "you" and what is apparently outside of you. All this created structure is dance, it is the infinite relating to itself. It could be deeper, more beautiful, more intricate, but it could also be less.

Yes i ask that to myself too. It seems that everything revolves around deepening in love. But i don't know why exactly this. Leo says that he understands it and that it is much more complicated and subtle than it seems

@A Fellow Lighter The absence of limits is the case. This is obvious, because what limits could there be? What would limit those limits? as you say, limits to what? to nothing. it is nothing infinite of unfathomable depth, but it happens that the quality of being infinite brings with it the fact of existing. Why? because it can. can all. God appears from the fact of the absence of limits. Since there were never limits, God has always existed. Understanding the infinite logically is not easy, but you can become infinite, encompass everything, with drugs. infinity total absolute is what we are, there is nothing else. the finite is apparent, a trick, let's say a visual effect.

the base is the desire to escape from the prison that limits you. If the desire is enough, it will lead you to break the prison applying the means that are necessary

work is essential. You are taking a lot of what society gives. look at your phone where you write things in the forum, the work and passion of many has made it possible. what do you give in return? you have to give passion too

The psychological suffering that loneliness produces, the lack of human love, the lack of sex, friendship, the love of your parents, the deficient and imperfect relationships between humans, that we are fragmented as soon as we are human, is real. Whoever says that he has transcended all this, well... would have to see it. the issue is that it is real, and what? Toothache is also real. Well, your teeth hurt and that's it. There is nothing bad or wrong about suffering for the human condition. The thing is how to surrender your suffering and accept it, and understand it. It's part of life. The ones who are so anxious to avoid it look like children who think that if they hide under the bed, the monster won't catch them. And the gurus who sell the end of suffering look like those vendors from the west who sold an elixir that healed everything. Scammers. Christ the day before being crucified suffered psychologically, like anyone else

Infinity is just the absence of limits. with no limits, for some reason everything happens, instead of just nothing. but everything, being infinitely repeated infinitely, could be considered the equivalent of nothing. Infinity=nothing

the first time i tried malt it was the worst trip i ever had, i thought i could die of cardiac arrest for an hour. I managed to go down to the street to walk from one place to another in a state that was the same as when you do 5 meo and expand to infinity, but just the opposite. full contraction at one point. Now it is the substance that I like the most. mostly snort malt and then vape some 5meo dmt. I got it just when leo said it, then it disappeared and I think now it's back

I never heard anyone else talk about that experience. think of leo or amanem or many others who have made hundreds of maximum depth trips. everyone says that any negativity is ego resisting. do not underestimate how cunning the ego is to prevent its demise. Anyway, the only real test is go there again.

That of the heart did not happen to me, I had several experiences of being alone trapped in eternity, existential horror, then a total rupture to infinity, and then the total peace and joy of recognizing myself as what I always was, eternity without limits. I thought it would be impossible to forget that, but when the psychedelic ends, you forget it. well you remember but you are not. with a small dose of psychedelic I remember it again I think that the psychedelic path is always the same, many horrible realizations before the real one. After that, everything goes easy, or at least not so difficult

the fact that nothing prevents it

What I have seen is not that, it is that reality, being infinite, automatically manifests itself infinitely. right now the infinite is being, the finite is appearance, a trick, reality is now the infinite. You as a human avatar are the result of the apparent limitation of infinity, and the same with everything else. The paradox is that only you exist and only your direct experience is real, and at the same time the infinite is being as it always was. infinite dimensions within infinite dimensions infinitely repeated.

There is no delusion, there is exploration. The op is a is a true psychonaut, someone with a vocation for psychedelic exploration without underlying motives such as escaping suffering, etc., but only for the love of consciousness. their realizations are interesting, although only one's own realizations have value

Id say that Leo refers to the understanding of reality or god. many people, myself, have had the realization of our true nature, as it appears in the text you shared. the realization of what we are beyond form or time, the return to what always was. this seems to be the end of any search. what Leo says (I think) is that it is the beginning. This is what it looks like to me. The explanation of the "cosmic joke" seems very silly to me. a much deeper understanding can be reached. It seems that after years of continuing to delve deeper, Leo has realized deeper truth. interesting, right? I have that impulse to get to the bottom, and the psychedelic path works. you have to have intelligence and love for the truth, and courage btw

with a total dose of 5 meo your body relaxes completely. you realize that in your life you were never relaxed, there was always control. at the moment of breakthrough the control disappears completely. every fiber of your body, every energy channel, is aligned. then everything returns to normal, but a little looser.

For me, the problem with salvia is that reality takes on a demonic flavor. Every time I've done it, after two seconds I've remembered that taste and I've thought: oh no, I remember why I didn't want to do that anymore. it is as if the texture of reality completely changed its character, and everything is cutting, pricking, sharp, and it seems as if the very essence of reality is wobbling, breaking down, all accompanied by a howling and syncopated sound. You come out of there like after having ridden on a hellish roller coaster. maybe it's time for another trip

Suffering can be the first motivator, which makes you look for a way out and look inside yourself, but then the key is understanding (yes, what Leo says). we are locked in a kind of labyrinth, box, enigma, which is me, you. Understanding (non-conceptual, pure, direct comprehension) is what frees stages of this labyrinth. psychedelics are extremely useful because they deform the labyrinth, they allow you to see yourself from another angle, and this makes understanding happen. understanding is the absence of barriers. without any barriers understanding is absolute, then the barriers come back and understanding is lost... to a certain extent. with psychedelics you can fully realize the absolute. how this moment is being created, your body, reality. of all the layers of energetic patterns that form you, what you really are, what you have always been, with complete clarity. then the barriers return, but increasingly tenuous

I would try to remain humble. It's easy to fall into the pedantry of believing yourself to be a master who knows all the tricks of infinity when you're just taking baby steps, like everyone else btw.