Breakingthewall

Man, you, razard and others have been brainwashed, you have no idea what awakening is. no wonder leo doesn't come here anymore, he must be ashamed. You look like the founders of a sect.

This is the level in this forum..well, it's normal, just believers.

you are completely deceived, and it is a pity that leo is not anymore here to tell all of you that parroting him that this is not even remotely awakening. if he said so maybe you would believe him

?????? Thanks for the input.

If that is so, why did Leo have to do 100 complete trips of 5 meo to begin to understand and here people are already enlightened by watching a video?

Yes , sure, Let's say that Leo is a bit stupid, and that's why he had to fry his brain with a ton of psychedelics, when things were much simpler, it was enough to watch some videos and accept the belief that the others don't exist.

@Razard86 in fact, the way you express yourself and the content of what you say reveals pathology on a pretty serious level. it starts to get tiring. For me it's like talking to a kid, I try in a subtle way to make you see your mistake. It is impossible, because for you the only important thing is to be the great guru. you are a real narcissist, impervious to any understanding, stuck in your need for superiority, and the truth, unbearable. I hope you can get out of your maze, but it seems that your will is to go deeper and deeper into your confusion

The problem here is that you don't understand what I've said, it's in another dimension for you, that you can't reach, and your response, instead of trying to understand, is to start screaming hysterically.

You are talking about a negative awakening, that is, realize what is not true. It is the first step, but real awakening is positive, realizing what it is. once the delusion is not so solid, you can begin to open up to what you are. then you stop focusing all the time on what is a lie to open up to what is the truth. You will call this the dream, and it is not like that, you are wrong. When you open yourself to the absolute, all that solipsism will seem unimportant to you, a second-order reality. First order reality is not knowing things, it is being without limits, is the now when we are not limiting it with our learned energetic patterns . This is not easy to achieve, and you know what the way is.

Awakening is not that. It is as if you were saying, I know that the earth is not flat, it is round. So I know what the earth is. no man, you still need a small detail, like getting on the ship with Magellan and going through Cape Horn and all that stuff, for years, to have taken your first look.

To Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. I see it as necessary and fundamental to contribute to society by giving your best, in a material way. and regarding spirituality, it is inevitable. we are alive, we exist. now, I am. wtf is this? How can someone not have the inescapable need to open this enigma? We have to open up to the now completely, remove all barriers. any limitations must be identified and overcome.

Totally agree

Yeah, let's see If here we begin to be serious in the objective of reaching the bottom. this obviously has to be done by each one, alone, but this is an excellent place to share points of view, experiences, look for help, with people who are on the same path, with the same ambition: undo the enigma that it means to be. fully open to the now. identify and let go of all the tricks of the ego. go as deep as possible into ourselves, that is, into reality.

Just aspire to really realize, to the bottom, what you are. absolute existence without limit. I would forget "truths" expressed in words. they are worth nothing.

@Water by the River thanks for remembering that post, yes, i agree, any experience is not good or bad, it is our reaction to it that defines it as such. all these "feelings" are reactions of the ego, obviously. with each such experience understanding breaks through inch by inch. hence I see the importance of having them

ok, from now on my spiritual practices will be methamphetamine marathons in the middle of an orgy with drug addicted prostitutes. When I learn to love that, I'll be enlightened? Seriously, you have to choose what is your path.

Exactly, that's why I never read spirituality nor watch videos. Direct experience is the only source. I have seen some leo out of obligation, since I am here, but every moment something tells me: toxic, turn that off. I only tolerate seeing them when I have already realized for myself what they are talking about, so the nuances can contribute a lot. but if what they talk about is far above my direct experience, like infinity gods, my sensation is of something toxic that I must forget immediately That's why I doubt about your approach that is: first, believe the absolute solipsism, then you will awake

When i said horror, i didn't mean fear. there is no fear, simply reality is an empty abyss. When the ego returns, it feels horror, as if you had seen a person being tortured, it doesn't scare you, but it causes you horror. Another feeling of horror that has occurred many times with 5 meo is: I am trapped in eternity, alone, and with no possibility of escaping the fact of existing. this does not cause fear, but the horror is so strong that it seems that it could cause physical damage. regarding the cessation of which you speak, that is a temporary jump, as if you were injected with propofol. if there is no consciousness of the void, there is no void, there is non-existence, and non-existence does not exist. existence is absolute, it has no opposite. To give an example, if in the middle of an ocean of non-existence a second of existence arises, that second would be eternal, since its limits would be non-existence, which does not exist. would be unlimited, as is the case

not everyone should be in uniform, parading and looking straight ahead. A little difference is appreciated, even more so when it involves work and research, as is the case

all depends on the perspective you take. From a linear perspective, reality is a temporary passing of events, and it exists outside. your cancer started with some cells that were increasing, one day you found out, etc. from a "depth" perspective (perceiving the now in depth, not in wide), only now exists, and it has no limits. Appearances are emerging that do not have a cause/effect meaning, time does not exist and outside does not exist. everything is a fluctuating construction that happens now. which one is true? the one you adopt. choose. the ideal is to adopt the linear for survival, and abandon it completely when it is not strictly necessary. reason? you will surprise yourself smiling with joy every moment

Of course, you are right. we are human and the source of our suffering is that we are fragmented, what we try in spirituality is to return to unity. but it is extremely difficult, since we are born we establish dependency relationships with others. How would you feel alone in the countryside without internet or reading for 3 months?

What I find most difficult to let go of is the need for other people to understand you. the need to share is great, I guess that's why we're here.

The experience I was talking about is, first, the subject/object duality disappears. I am not perceiving something, but it is reality happening. This reality first becomes a flat grey square, and then the void opens. the void expands without limit, there is no observer, there is a void that expands infinitely and there is absolutely nothing. only the consciousness of infinite emptiness. once you get out of there, it seems to you that you have realized the pure horror. limitless horror. without the slightest handle, without the slightest life. when it ends it leaves you with a feeling of death.

change the angle of reasoning. 1 this experience is the only thing that exists for you. this is true right? 2 you are you, and you can never be someone else, because if you were to become someone else, you would still be you appearing as someone else. there is no doubt about this, right? So, if you will always remain you, and for you this experience is obviously the only thing that exists, this results that this experience is the only thing that exists. and there is no more. and if now you think: well, but there are other experiences... that is only a thought that has arisen in your experience. you will never get out of it, in all eternity. So go deep in this experience. Be totally aware of this moment, remove any distractions, any ideas of "out." this moment is total reality. here, now, the absolute is.

You are right, if we want to play this game seriously, total detachment is necessary. this is extremely difficult for almost all of us.