Breakingthewall

Sure, because i have those ideas in my unconscious, I've read Spirituality like everyone else here, and when I did, I thought: This is the truth! Then it penetrates your mental structure. Since I want total freedom and openness, I see ideas that close people off as enemies, and perhaps that's why I give them such neurotic importance. Not so, Im in the subway now full of people going to an appointment, I'm all time in the street, but sometimes I stop a while to write. But in my mind The gears are turning all the time, seeking the cleanest structure, trying to align, it's inevitable. Everyone has their own hobbies. I haven't seen a movie, a TV series, or a novel in years. I'm interested in reality, so I can't avoid a certain vehemence at times, but I'll try to avoid talking against Ralston or any master

No you didn't understand. For you, everything is very simple because you're on the red team and against the green team. I'm not on either team, so based on the information I have, I try to reach an objective point, which isn't so easy. So, I started reading about the matter, and it wasn't so clear to me. I thought that while the Palestinians had a right to their land, they had been attacking Israel for 100 years, and this latest attack demonstrated their absolute lack of intention to coexist, so Israel had the right to defense. But seeing increasingly clear what the Zionist ideology is, and seeing that it's almost certain the Zionists allowed the attack with the idea of destroying Gaza, and seeing his behavior in the invasion, now I think Israel doesn't have the right to exist as a nation in that land. I know it's very alien to you, because for you everything is easy. Since you're Muslim, you support Muslims. But in my case, it's different. I don't identify with any team.

As I see, Tagore is really truly open to the total and he understands very good that the beauty comes from the absolute perfection of the synchrony and harmony of everything and humans are not separate of that, humans are that. but something is confusing when he said humans and reality. Let's read about him Beauty is the reality when it's seen in its true perfection. The reality is flow of infinite relationships in perfect harmony. "Perfect" means that the deviation is zero, it's absolutely totally perfect to the infinite power. Tagore see that humans are the perfect reality, that the experience is just the reality in the form of an experience. A subtle shift that seems he did totally

Another approach (please, insult if you don't understand) Ralston claims that “you are identified with your structure,” and that therefore you can “disidentify” from it and thus end unnecessary suffering. But this claim contains a radical structural error: it presupposes that there is a “you” separate from the structure that can step outside of it. In reality, you are your structure. There is no essential, independent “you” that can observe the structure from outside. The structure that is perceived as “I” is the form that reality takes in this particular node. So you are not identified with the structure, but rather you are that structure. You cannot disidentify from yourself, because there is nothing outside of you from which to do so. The desire for disidentification is, in fact, an even deeper identification with the idea of eliminating suffering. It is a reaction of the structure itself, which rejects itself. The only way: It is not escaping from the structure, but opening totally from it. It is not denying the self, but seeing it as an inevitable form that can become transparent to the real flow. Freedom is not about disidentification, since the one who disidentifies is the self, which is placed on another artificial plane. Freedom comes with openness, in which the self becomes transparent and sees itself as the becoming of the absolute in eternal flow. This understanding is direct and present. It occurs when closure ceases. Ralston conveys emptiness without glory, clarity without life, understanding without heart. This reveals that the openness he has achieved is partial, because he has not touched the living root of reality: he has not entered into the fire, the fullness, the absolute that manifests when the structure opens completely. Then, partial opensess is equal than closure. And closure leads to distortion, mistake. It's a problem, because seems authentic when you see if from more closure. Done with that topic, Its just my opinion , don't get offended

Denying the reality usually doesn't work, gets you in a dual psychological reality that's not far from psychosis. It's a kind of narcissism that denies reality in favor of another reality more convenient to the person's emotional system. The only way is the total acceptance of reality; only then does openness occur. What I was trying to communicate in the post is that spirituality is denial; it denies the ego as false, and thus encloses the individual in a psychotic duality that they perceive as enlightenment and they more or less believe it, blocking them from all possible directions

Anyway, in case anyone's interested: the only way out of psychological suffering is to open yourself to the flow of reality and understand that becoming occurs synchronously and surrender to it, not mental tricks. This understandig only comes with the total openess. Psychological suffering is the same as physical suffering; the physical is no more real or direct than the mental structure. The human mind is a living structure, not a deception. The fact that it can't be smelled or touched doesn't change this. Psychological suffering is the key to opening up; denying it closes it. If anyone doesn't like this, please, there's no need to insult. I understand that for many, this is the obvious reaction; it makes them feel safe, but let's raise the bar a bit.

I'm trying to talk about the Ralston approach, seems that it's difficult. Well, I'm sorry to don't believe Ralston, the other guy insulted me because that. Seems that for you is not good also. Let's see, if we were talking about the war in Ukraine could be understandable, but we are talking about an approach about spirituality, where there is a lot of deception. Now you answer like: look, I'm full of equanimity and very advanced. Look, much better than him, and saying absolutely nothing. Do you see the problem? A closed structure. That leads to suffering

@Natasha Tori Maru i changed a long answer explaining a lot of things for this shorter: I know how the psychological suffering works because I get very deep in it and I found the only real way to breaking it, because you have to break it. If you don't believe me and you need to speak condescending, ok, it's not my problem. I just say here my perspective and if it's useful to anyone great. I should stop reacting, but watching Ralston, it's stronger than me. I'm done with conversation with you because your only goal is egoic, or that's what I see. Gaslighting and Trying to be "above". I'm stupid if I waste my energy is those games, like the other guy insulting. My goal Is getting deep and clarify the spirituality. Then I can't lose energy in stupid games. Let's see if I can use this forum in a useful way without getting in personal nonsense

Hey thanks for no insulting! I appreciate! I didn't need 5 minutes, with 2 was enough

Why do you think being poor or rich has any connection? It's because of their psychological structure, formed during their childhood and life through billions of interactions with their environment, their inherited value system, the genuine love they received from their parents, the closure created by hostile and competitive energies, by trauma, and by violence. If everything is understood superficially, only superficial solutions are sought, which won't work, since reality is profound.

I watched many videos and reading many comments here, I think it's enough. Only with the first video was enough, but I watched like ten. Not a single word of true openess, just a man locked in his history believing he's a genius and making it believe to others. But why I care that? Really I'm not sure, maybe because I need to see those mistakes to don't fall in them. 99,99% of spirituality is simply false. Not because bad intention, just because they are locked. If anyone could listen without being defensive, it's so easy to show....but anyway, it's just opinion, nothing personal

You told me a resume, it's very similar that Eckhart Tolle. According to them, suffering is a mental construct because without physical pain, any suffering is imaginary. They don't understand that physical and psychological pain are exactly the same; they are mechanisms of reality to promote survival. A cow suffers if you burn it so it can move away and not be burned. If it can't move away because it's in a cage, it will suffer just the same. Even if you tell it: "Why are you suffering if you can't do anything?" Fire burns and that's it. The human mind is designed by reality for the same thing: to move away from fire, only it does it before the fire arrives. This is not a defect, it's an evolutionary advance. Self-help gurus want you to return to the cow state, but that won't work; openness works. It's you who doesn't want to understand and who speaks to me condescendingly, without real perception, just defensive, But ok, try the Ralston theory, maybe it works for you

Yeah, what is "illusion" is the perception of a limited self when the reality is the limitless flow, but when your heart is open and a quality is perceived, this quality is not perceived, it is. Then that perception is the reality. The world is Brahman because you are that, and when you perceive yourself totally it's just the totality being If the self ceases to perceive itself as closed, it perceives itself as flow, and flow is perceived as absolute glory. This sounds like arbitrary mysticism, but it isn't. Absolute glory means being. Everything that is, is that, since it is unlimited. Its limitlessness gives it that character of glorious, perfect, open, open-hearted, non-human love, but love that is The self, due to its structure, can completely close itself off from this glory. A moment ago, I perceived it, and it was it. To be was to perceive; there is no perceiving, there is to be. It doesn't matter what appears, it is to be, it is complete, it is glory. But if now someone tells me that there is a problem , I only see that, I focus on a single point like a laser. There is no glory anymore, there is closure. The normal thing is to live in constant closure. But deny the closure is also a mistake, it's a function of the self

Then anything should be material and touchable to being real? That's just his assumption, and in my opinion very simplistic. So, if I tell Ralston that in two hours I'm going to grill his entire family in front of him and then lock him in a one cubic meter box full of rats where I'm going to make him survive for 5 years, he'll feel wonderful, since he can't touch and smell his grilled family, at least for another two hours, then yes.

I never read spirituality, I ve no patience, I start and stop in page 10. I could read if it's extremely super accurate and true, but where is that in spirituality? I never found it, and listening Ralston I get lazy immediately, because I perceive he's wrong in his basis. Is just my perception, but it's clear in this case Openess doesn't mean open minded, means that your structure is open, not limited, let's say that you perceive yourself as the flow of reality taking this form but you are the flow, not the form, but you can get closed in any moment, problems, threats etc No, I don't mean that, what I mean is that the idea of stopping your thoughts is a basic mistake. If a recurrent thought exists, it's for a reason. Stopping the thought doesn't solve the cause. I gave you an example earlier: a person who has everything but has obsessive thoughts about getting sick and dying. According to Ralston, how would you address that? Or tell me any other example and how can be solved with the Ralston idea

@Twentyfirst i don't support Israel. About the other topic, maybe you have too much imagination.

How could be transcended? It's impossible transcend what you are, you could change. Imo thinking that it's erroneous is the mistake. Spiritual people say what you said about honoring, but what they really want is to stop being human because it involves suffering. The problem, imo, is that the most obvious way to do this is to eliminate any attachment. Without attachment, you don't suffer. But the underlying reality is different: you're trying something for a selfish reason, to stop suffering. Just a reflection, lately I ve the feeling that spirituality is wrong, like a mistake that is very wrongly formulated from the beginning. But of course, maybe the mistake is mine

It's not the town bicycle, it's a woman who had another boyfriend before. I know that you are afraid about that, because you are not self confident. It comes from generations of insecure men, very obedient to Muhammad but deeply very scared. Then they need a virgin to feel safe. And then they marry one who fixed her hymen, it's quite cheap, like 200 US. For example in Morocco, where are hundreds of thousands of prostitutes, all them use to do. Others just do anal and blow job to be a real virgin, and almost all Muslim men use prostitutes, and thousands and thousands of Saudis and Arabs in general go to Morocco to use those prostitutes, and they love treat them rude, as inferior beings while fucking them. All the Muslim are fake, pretending something, but being the opposite. They are pathetic. When a revolution of real men in the Muslim world? Or maybe they doesn't exist there? Just obedient scared good Muslims?

about choosing a woman to perpetuate my lineage, I don't care how many men she's slept with, but rather her true values, her openness to life, and her dedication to a real project. If you want a lineage with drive, you need a true and strong woman, not a poor submissive woman forced by her father to marry. What lineage will emerge from there? One of slaves.

Anyway, I will explain you why someone is suffering a lot just by the possibility of getting sick. Just because he's smart and he sees clearly that possibility, and he sees all it's implications. He also sees that human life is a trap, that he's a robot reacting to stimulus like a rat going directly to old age and death. Then someone would think: you are stupid (not a genius like the op) , why are you suffering? Life is great, come to have some drinks in a terrace and forget your foolnes. Just stop thinking about it and it's done. But that person couldn't, because that ideas and that nihilism got deep inside of his psyche. Then, how that person would stop his suffering? Manipulating his mind? How, if he is his mind? It's only one exit, only one. And it's not stop thinking.

😂You are great. That's the way to have a debate about spirituality. High level.

Totally agree. Leo Messi is extremely skilled. That shows he's wise. You've opened my eyes. You're right to insult me. It's ok that you call me stupid, but understand that when talking to people at your level, we're all at a disadvantage. Don't be so hard with people that is not so smart than you. It's ok that you insult them, that shows that you are great, but please, understand us, we are trying our best (that is low of course)

Of course, they depend entirely on the person processing them. For someone, the mere possibility of getting sick and spending all day suffering from catastrophic thoughts without anything having happened to them can be horrifying, even everything in his life is perfect. How can that person stop suffering? Why is he suffering?

Sure, it's much better to be with a woman who's with you because she believes it's her obligation, otherwise she'll go to hell. Western society is full of shit because it's an adult society that confronts itself openly, without an instruction manual, making mistakes and learning from them. Muslim society is a society of terrified children who only know how to do one thing: obey. Obedient children with false souls terrified about don't reach the standard. No artist, no scientist, no writers, no nothing, just obedient Muslims. Ah, and don't forget say thanks to west , without them Muslims would be happy in the X century, without medicines, technology and electricity ,just praying a lot obediently , terrified about a man, Muhammad, that is their lord, and you their slaves. Btw I hope your parents choose a good woman for you. But be careful, in many Muslim countries the most requested surgery is hymen reconstruction. Things sometimes are different that they seem.

Maybe makes you realize what's going wrong, for example you may have an inherited set of values that makes it impossible for you to accept your situation, but on the other hand, you can't change that set of values by convincing yourself otherwise, because it's built into your structure. Masking it up won't help. So you might conclude that your only way out is to dig deep, reach the hardware, and deactivate it by transcending those structures. This isn't something you'll achieve by changing your thoughts; this's like covering up an infection without curing it. It will remain there, taking other forms. The problem is that real change is complex and requires absolute sovereignty. Then people will choose simpler solutions, but they doesn't work. Only the truth works, and changing your thoughts is deceiving yourself. Your values will remain, your need of validation, aceptation, success, etc, are going to make your structure closed, then you may feel that you are suffering less, but in background the vibration of suffering will remain. Suffering is not a sickness, it's a simptom, the sickness is disconnection, and the cure is open your structure to connect yourself with what you really are Anyway , maybe the other way also works, but I tried a lot, I read Tolle, etc, I internalized those ideas but were useless for me, I guess it depends of the person.