Breakingthewall

Let's see, absolute reality, as its name indicates, is reality, now. there is no other. obvious. what happens is that as humans we live a limited dual experience, which makes reality not seem absolute but relative. one thing in relation to another. and limited: with beginning and end. but that is not to say that it is not really absolute. Right now, having a coffee on a terrace, I am aware of the absolute that reality is, but aware to a certain point because I cannot get rid of the apparent limitation. if now i go up to my house, i do enough 5meo, there is absolutely nothing left of the relative. zero. reality expands to infinity, without bottom. and in the infinite I recognize myself as the unborn that is, total, infinitely abundant, without limit. it is an obvious and perfect realization. there is no more possible depth because what I am is, precisely, infinite depth. When you say that what I am explaining is missing something to be the true awakening, I think that what happens is that you do not understand it because you have only accessed States of bliss, but not truly infinite, since it is impossible without psychedelics. nobody can. You're a steel door, you can't understand it until you blast the door with dynamite. It is very easy, it only takes will and courage

Thanks, I'll check. Reading this thread, I ask myself a fundamental question: what is awakening? For me it is something absolutely concrete and real, beyond any doubt. it is something that I can access at will using drugs: it is the breaking of the apparent limitation and the manifestation of my true nature: the total infinity. the ultimate reality. the difference between this manifestation having occurred or not is fundamental. before I was asleep, then awake. the glass is filled, the prodigal son has returned. but this does not eliminate, as you say, suffering. It relativizes it, but if, for example, they isolate me in a room for 2 years, I will suffer. So, once you can open yourself to infinity totally at will, what else is there to awaken? that is the ultimate, there is nothing but infinity, and that is what I am. Could be more perception and understanding of the infinity, but the fundamental difference is : Have you ever really and completely opened yourself to infinity and became infinite or not? And With this premise, I highly doubt that Adyashanti, Spira, Shadguru, and many others are awake. Ralston I don't know. I would say neither. infinity is a bottomless well of love. an infinite flow in a dance of love. It is The Truth, and it is God, and it is what you always are. maybe ramana maharshi explains it more or less. many others like nisgardatta majaraj, i would say no. They are not fully awake, they have remained in the void

No teacher is going to teach you anything. all they can do is inspire you to seek the truth. There comes a time when words are just words, they bring nothing but confusion. The truth is you, there is nothing else. In you is infinity, you have to open it. psychedelics are the tool

@Water by the River who are , in your opinion, a really enlightened masters? I copy this quote that you posted once. This one, for example. I used the translator so maybe it's not exact: I am the teacher, the pure and total consciousness, from where everything manifests. Pure and total consciousness is the supreme source, it has created the Buddhas of the three times, from it have emerged the beings of the three worlds and everything animate and inanimate. universe. [...] Pure and total consciousness has created everything and has created nothing. He has created everything because he has created his own nature, pure and total. He has not created anything because within him there is no need to create. When my nature is not understood and the phenomena that manifest from me become the object of judgment, desire and attachment give rise to the creation of a concrete vision, impermanent and destined to vanish like a magical apparition, and one becomes like a blind man who doesn't know what's going on. [...YO" "Since I transcend all affirmations and denials, I am beyond all phenomena. Since there is no object other than myself, I am beyond meditating on a sight. Since there is nothing to maintain apart from myself, I am beyond commitment to observe. Since there is nothing to seek but myself, I am beyond attaining the capacity for spiritual action. Since there is no place outside of myself, I am beyond a level of realization to overcome. As I have never encountered obstacles, I am beyond [all] as self-arising wisdom. As I am the ultimate unborn nature, I am beyond [all] as the ultimate subtle [true] nature." "I am called "the perfect condition" because everything is contained in me. I am called "the source" because the teacher, the teaching and the disciples arise from my three natures" "I am the essence of all phenomena; nothing exists that is not my essence. The masters of the three dimensions are my essence. The Buddhas of the three times are my essence. Bodhisattvas are my essence. The four types of yogis are my essence. essence. The three worlds, of desire, of form and also without form, are my manifestation. The five great elements are my essence. The six classes of beings are my essence. Everything inanimate is my essence. Everything that lives is my essence. essence. All habitats and the beings that live in them are my essence. Nothing exists that is not my essence because I am the universal root: there is nothing that is not contained in me. The unborn, the wonder of birth, and the manifestation of energy are the three aspects of the three masters: this is their condition." "As the three times, past, present, and future, reside exclusively in me, all the Buddhas are in the same condition: this too is my essence. As I transcend the dualism of subject and object, like space, I am all-pervading and I constitute the fundamental substance of all phenomena: my essence is pure and total consciousness, I, who am the source, dwell in the unique state, and in this same authentic condition the practitioners of the "four yogas". "Realize my nature, the supreme source that is pure and total consciousness. Teach that all phenomena of existence are only me! If you transmit my teaching, all your disciples will realize my nature and become this same nature. "If my nature were to compassionately show itself to the beings of the three worlds that have originated from me... Thus, I, the supreme source, reveal my nature, showing it to myself." "Nothing but this exists; none of the Buddhas have ever received a higher teaching than this from me, the source. Apart from this condition of equality beyond concepts, I myself, the supreme source from which everything arises, have no absolutely nothing to show for myself." "Listen! As all of you are created by me, you beings of the three worlds are my children, equal to me, the supreme source. You are me, inseparable from me, so I manifest to you and through the five masters of natures I teach the unique state of the five essences [of the elements]. I am the unique state, I, the supreme source: so are you, you must be sure of this!" Listen, Sattvavajra! I will show you your own nature. You are me, the source. I am and always have been pure and total consciousness. What is pure and total consciousness?" "Among all the things that exist in the animate and inanimate universe, there is not a single thing that has not been created by me, nor is there a cause that does not derive from me. So I am the essence of everything, and nothing surpasses me. I am superior to the three dimensions, to the Buddhas of the three times, to the Vidyadharas, to the Bodhisattvas, to the beings of the three worlds, to the entire animate and inanimate universe, because I am the doer of everything. , that I am the source, the pure and total consciousness, I revealed the teaching of the pure and total consciousness

The purpose of suffering is evolution. We are here to evolve, not to be happy. happiness is an inherent quality of existence, but life in this form includes suffering as a impulse for adaptation and change. rejecting it is somehow rejecting what you are. Imagine a guy climbing the eiger north face solo in winter. is it pleasant? Is it better that they give you a blowjob? depends. It's life.

interesting and true. it's hard to remember what the completely unlimited state is when you're not in it. I suppose that the possibility of being in that state permanently should not be denied, and that could be called enlightenment, and yes, end of suffering.

I declare just the opposite. Suffering is the heaven. Existence is. there is a thin nuance to what we are trying to express. maybe it's the same. I understand what you are saying about the contraction.

here is something in which I do not agree and that for me is the deception of Buddhism. I agree with Leo that Buddhism is false, I wanted him to say exactly why he thinks it is false but he didn't say it. I tell you why I think it is false and where I see the error in your line of thought (imo). For you there is a samsara, maya, from which you have to scape to enter the bliss of true nature. the principle of Buddhism: the end of suffering. moksha would agree with you. there is none of this, that implies a duality that is not real, it is illusory and that is why enlightenment and Buddhism are illusory. there are only states of consciousness, and all states are the absolute. hence we call it "absolute". There is nothing else. suffering and bliss are the same, they are different states of what you are. spiritual work is not escaping from the wheel of samsara, there is no such thing. It is to deepen in the now, in you, to the maximum, for the beauty that this implies. enlightenment=to reach a goal is falsehood. there is no goal, this is self-limiting, and that is the error of Buddhism, which categorizes the state of being as Buddha or non-Buddha. Buddha is a myth . only one state deeper than others but not maximally deep because depth has no bottom what is real is the ability to free yourself at will from the logical conceptual mind, understanding what this mind is. there is nothing mystical about it, or rather, everything is mystical, including the conceptual mind. everything is existence and what we do is to be conscious of ourselves. without renouncing to suffering, because we are configured as humans now and suffering is human

what you say is that you realized that reality is limitless and because that its an infinite mind, infinite intelligence, infinite love, that we call god, and you are that. realizing that, as deeper as possible, is the spiritual work. but what we are discussing about Buddhism is whether Buddhism is expressing exactly the same thing in a more subtle way. In some cases it would be said yes. Btw, my knowledge about Buddhism is superficial, just some readings.

if it is a thought system, obviously it must be questioned and taken only as a possible inspiration, interesting curiosity, and nothing more. but in the case of Buddhism it is difficult to say whether it is a system of thought. Zen Buddhism is not a system of thought but a meditative practice aimed at opening to infinity, in which the teachers, once that opening is achieved, expose their ideas, perceptions, to help other aspirants to achieve the same goal. each teacher says different things and there is no immovable dogma. So where is the falsehood? perhaps in that the depth of the realizations of the masters are not enough? It depends which teachers. nothing should be taken literally but as inspiration, only direct experience is worth, then, does Buddhism hinder, block, the possibilities of opening to infinity of the aspirant, or does it help?

Yes, but the only thing you say is that Buddhism is false and that enlightenment is imaginary, without explaining any of it. what value does that have? explain it and that's it, just once at least.

Its obvious that you didn't read my post. It's not philosophical, it's experiential. and it is also obvious: no limits. If you like to make the simple complicated, go ahead. There is not much to say, there is much to experience.

it was obvious that leo was completely focused on the exploration of consciousness and that for this he had created a hard shell. For me it was always a sign of authenticity. renounces the human facet in favor of the divine. He could have been unbearably arrogant, but always authentic. the problem (for him) is that this is not viable. the human part will come to take its toll. You are human, and very human. once again, that message of apology (apology to himself I would say) reflects insight and authenticity. authenticity is an extremely difficult thing to find in a public figure

Thank you, but the issue is not to desire something as an end to suffering, but to understand what suffering is. I think I understand it quite well. in fact, I have actively pursued suffering on a serious enough level throughout my life, that I have always perceived that suffering is beautiful, it means being alive.

physical or psychological suffering are ultimately the same, they are a sensation destined to want to avoid a certain situation, or to pursue a certain situation. It is a biological survival mechanism. The fact of being a person who is living a dual experience means that you are functioning in a limited state of consciousness, and one of its limits is suffering. When we talk about awakening we talk about breaking those limits, and therefore breaking suffering, but it is only possible to do this in a punctual and temporary way since you are still a human living a dual experience. this implies suffering and wanting to escape from it is to deny your will to live this dual experience. Obviously, if you are open to your true nature, you will easily endure suffering, but it will continue to exist as long as you are alive. The thing about the monk who is burned alive does not mean enlightenment, it means detachment and renunciation. Watch the fight between Evander Holyfield and Riddick Bowe. do you think they are enlightened? I would say no, and they endure something seemingly impossible

There is no such thing as an ego. there are limited states of consciousness. consciousness limits itself to create the appearance of a dual experience. the ego is the infinite mind, not a bubble in the void, since obviously there is no other mind, only the infinite mind, as the attribute "infinite" expresses. If you eliminate the limitations, which are apparent, mental, the "ego" and the infinite mind are equalized, they are the same. So, there is no ego floating in a vacuum. there is no vacuum. emptiness is a limited state of consciousness. limited because it excludes the full. infinity is everything, not nothingness. it's completely obvious. What is the mystery of "I am"? absence of limits, that is, infinity. Conceptually, the nature of reality is very simple. It is explained in two words: no limit. On a practical level, it is difficult to remove those limits and realize your true infinite nature, since the limits imposed by the mind exist. it involves cheating the game, but once you learn how to do it, it's child's play. easy

Imagine that they lock you in a cell and tell you that in one week you will be subjected to the most horrible tortures for another whole week. Wouldn't there be psychological suffering? of course. any of those enlightened would suffer, and it is completely normal and legitimate. it is a natural process. You, as a human, have a self-protection device that impels you to escape from those situations. it does so through a sensation that we perceive as suffering. there is no problem with that, it is something natural. And not all spiritual traditions preach the end of suffering, only one does: the Buddhist. Buddhism is an anti-life religion. consider life as a curse from which we must escape, stop the wheel of reincarnations, and thus escape from what they fear so much: the suffering. it is a negative religion. focuses on nothingness, flees from everything.(btw, I don't say that because Leo preach against Buddhism, it's a logical conclusion, reading a bit about it) Yes, there are some cases of teachers who have a more complete understanding, but in general it is fear and negativity, the desire to flee from suffering. many say: I am enlightened. from their homes in rich countries with full medical attention, and all their needs covered. you have to accept suffering, it is part of what it is to be human. wanting to erase it is castrating your humanity, fear. We could be deeply awake and suffer same time, accepting or suffering without problem.

the substance that breaks the limits and makes you realize infinity is 5 meo. It can also happen with other substances, meditating or spontaneously, but 5meo promotes this specially. You also have to have a mental disposition to abandon the structures, to let go of everything. It is not an easy process, you have to do it many times and it is intimidating. then it works, you do it, you realize the infinite and you are the infinite. then in a sober state you are one step away from fully realizing infinity, and you spontaneously open yourself to that state. a little weed, lsd, meditation, can help. realizing infinity is only the beginning of understanding reality, not the end. there is no such thing as enlightenment or elimination of suffering. suffering is a mechanism of evolution of life. there will always be suffering as long as you are alive. there is no problem with suffering

A heart-shaped borosilicate flask, a cork, a steel stem and a cup. the substance slides and accumulates at the bottom. you have to use a big torch, by flambe desserts. First you heat the walls a little so that the steam does not condense, you hold it by the neck and set the fire below. the bottom is thick, it takes a while to warm up but after that it keeps the heat. In 4 seconds it is red, you put down the torch and start to inhale the steam. the good thing about this system is that hardly anything is wasted, and you can calculate the dose very well

The realization with psychedelics is exactly same valuable that the realization without psychedelics. if you realize your true nature, you will realize that there is no difference between psychedelics or anything else, everything is reality, everything is you.

He is, the same as all the enlightened masters. they are all fake. people who dedicate themselves 100% to spirituality, but they will never try 5 meos or high doses of any psychedelic, and they will also say that this damages your energy body and your karma.

what he says is an absolute lack of understanding of what reality is. psychedelics are not something external that gives you great states as he says, psychedelics are reality, psychedelics are been created by reality, so i, just like everything else, all reality is one thing, and peter ralston has a limited understanding about reality

Music for me has a connotation of evasion. what you want is for reality to open up, not to evade you. the music is somehow not real, or has a component of unreality, it is a simulation of something real let's say.

Thats meaningless. If the bubble of ego exist in a void, the bubble of ego is unlimited, eternal and all the existence, because there is nothing to limit it. So there is not a void, just the bubble

For me plug doesn't work good. Sometimes more another much less, impossible to know. Snorting yes, but with 5 meo DMT even with 30 mg, I manage to adapt my mind second by second and resist, without suffering or bad trip, just adapting and never breaking. Maybe I should snort 40, but when the substance go to your throat (and in big amount always happens), it's extremely painful. This pain with the high, is something that is really unpleasant. 5 meo malt yes, 15 mg snorting is extremely powerful and not that pain, but it's different substances, similar but not the same. Vaping is much more simple, but it's like just an excerscise to get used for longer openings. If I vape 15 mg, is like, 5 seconds, what happened? Infinity. No time to adapting. But last less than 5 minutes. It's and adapting process, you are no able to stand the infinity at first. It's like make a void, the air want to penetrate with extreme power