Breakingthewall

The correct answer would be: yes, the other has buddha nature, from a relative point of view. from an absolute point of view, the other merges with me and only me, the now, remains, encompassing everything. But sure the zen master would hit me with the stick anyway, the bastard

he has, since the other is him

Because until you realize the absolute infinity, that is, you, you are lost, and be lost is confusing, unpleasant, suffering. Until you totally realize yourself you will suffer every second of your experience.

No, when I'm with others i get too immersed in the appearance. Maybe some day not far. Id say that this "process" is quite fast when the reaction starts

Any idea is a wall, but the idea of others is a big one because prevents you to become absolute directly. It's a limitator If you really want to see the absolute, you have to become absolute. for that you have to free the mind completely. in my case, i had to use 5 meo as an electroshock machine to do that, but now it is something that sometimes happens spontaneously. another thing is that the absolute shines through all your experience. great beauty and makes life pleasant and allows understanding. but to become completely absolute is the return home. that is what we all are looking for. Try one day to meditate focusing in that this moment is the only reality that exist, and outside doesn't exist.

Because if you don't trascend it, it's not funny at all. rather it is a confusing and unpleasant experience that without exaggerating too much you could call hell

You know what you are, but have you ever been what you are? You are a millimeter away, touching it, but you have to break even the oneness. At one point, the soap bubble bursts and you are encompassing the whole of existence. Hallelujah because the full glory of infinite existence has manifested. This was what I had forgotten. the fucking prodigal son was wandering in the desert without water with his mouth full of sand for a long time. now he has reached the infinite oasis that is his home

You know that the reality in infinite, right? So you are the reality. It's impossible to be otherwise. all divisions are apparent, as soon as you rise above the apparent, they collapse into one, into you. This whole game of the spirituality is about this, about being able to get out of the relative and be the absolute, total, without cracks. You're not going to be like this all day obviously, but first sometimes with psychedelics, after you understand the thing and happens sober more and more

It's not a pointer, it's a key. it can make you slide from the relative to the absolute. in the end the pointers are nothing. the truth is, and that is it, nothing can define it because it is not defined, it is infinite. the idea of others is a barrier that does not allow the infinity to manifest as infinite.

Yes, it is, in the apparent sense. that is, all we are thinking are ideas, that of the orange and the egg is a thought that we have, with our mind we are creating every though. if you turn off the mind there is nothing left. You could say: yes, but it would continue to exist. but you couldn't say it because you have turned off your mind. without the mind there is nothing, only the now without limit. you have to differentiate between relative and absolute. relative: in relation to something else. absolute: without limit, without relation to anything, just is. As the reality is infinite, it's absolute, so the relative is just an appearance, a mirage. Inside that mirage the perception of the others appears, but if they are in a mirage, they are a mirage too. From the absolute pov. From the pov inside the mirage are real. But this pov is just a mirage in the sense that only perceive mirages, but absolute in the sense that if you remove the mirage , is the infinity

The forum an everything are appearances. You can deduce that reality is infinite because it is impossible for limits to exist. if infinity is the case, the finite is impossible, it only seems finite. all is infinity appearing finite. to understand this you have to become infinite (5 meo works). if infinity is the case and you exist, you are infinity, infinity cannot be divided, any part is infinity, then there are no parts, there is one, and it is you, the absolute. Inside you is everything, outside it does not exist. therefore there are no others.

@Someone here man, this is spirituality, not phisics or maths, there is none here like: then, do the others exist, or not? They exist in a relative sense but do not exist in an absolute sense. do you want to understand this? breaks the attachment to the conceptual. Learn to see without interpreting. How? with psychedelics. if you take enough of mushrooms, for example, you can no longer interpret, at least not me. so you let go of the conceptual by force. When you do at least once, you can understand what means: let go the conceptual mind.

You know that this is just an idea, right? we have to distinguish between idea and reality. idea is second order, only reality, now, is first order . No idea is real. Reality is non conceptual. You know that perfectly id say. How many people in the world , today and throughout the history of humanity have gone directly to the source? If you are in a moment of real awakening, you truly and completely dissolve into the absolute that you are. There are others? there is something? only the infinite that is everything, reality. Because it's an idea that could erase the main limitation: the idea of others"out" of you. In an absolute sense, there is not outside. The idea Outside maintains you dreaming

Im not saying that this is not awakening, there are many types, but for me awakening is when you go deep into existence. existence is this moment, now. to go deeper you have to forget that there are others, even the word one is meaningless, you have to forget everything. there is this, now. you open yourself completely to this moment, which is limitless. you dissolve in it. It has no bottom, it's everything, and it's you. You are at home, in infinity, and you are totally filled. you are, that is. there is nothing else, just Freedom. Everything else are illusion.

Awakening is real. Religion is false. This has full sense. I'm just trying to see who's cosplaying. Of course, i can be wrong, this is a subtle game

If you say so.... I think that he said has zero sense, he only defends himself by attacking because I have questioned him. childish

Describe awakening if you want. What it means for you? I'm trying to understand you, I've nothing against you, opposite, i like you is some ways

Man, you are swimming in a sea of confusion.

People misunderstand solipsism, they take it as dogma. solipsism is just an awakening aid. It is an idea that works as a key to dissolve limits. You know that ideas are just ideas and that to awake you have to leave them behind, right? god, truth, soul, cosmos, ultimately mean nothing, just pimters. Same the solipsism. ultimately you are infinity. this is real, it is also just a word but it points to a reality. the others are within the game of light that the dream is. Inside you are the others, the cosmos and everything. Outside is an illusion, a mirrors game.

you wake up to what reality is, which is beyond the mental constructions that put you in a mental flow that we could call dream The others are a mental construction. Everything that you think is. So, we could say no. they are not real. reality is one and it is you. Yes, I know, you could ask: so you don't exist? that is the dream, the mental construction. imagine you had no memory and you don't know nothing. There is only a present that changes but you do not perceive the change, since you do not have anything to compare it with. You are a fetus. that's what you are, existence. It cannot be described, you have to be it, and to be it you have to get out of mental constructions, which are the dream. Yes, all that I have said are also mental constructions, the idea is to learn to get out of them at will.

Awakening is real. It is the dissolution of barriers, becoming infinite. the idea of others is a barrier, it is a limitation between you and others. Whether the others exist or not is really unimportant or meaningless. if you want to awake you have to go beyond the mental constructions, and the others exist, or the others do not exist, they are mental constructions. They are neither true nor false, they are mental constructions that must be abandoned, but the construction "others exist" is more limiting than "others do not exist." Because the others are a limit. When you finish, the others start, and you never finish. the reality you want to awake to is infinity, and it is beyond any construction. any worldview is a construction. The problem is that if you live in the territory of mental constructs, there are only mental constructs for you, so you must choose the ones that make it easier to dissolve.

Id say that things must follow an evolutionary line and that suffering is the engine of evolution. the painting that is being painted leaves nothing to chance and everything takes a process. Nobody chooses to be stupid, abandon the mud of stupidity is not something easy. in fact, it is a work of art to achieve it. many think that they can take shortcuts, adopt some beliefs and that's it. poor deluded

So, you think you are superior to them, and you think it would be desirable for them to die because they would never accede to your religious "truth". trap number 1 of false spirituality: religious narcissism, that is, delirium. I bet that you are continually pressuring the people around you with your religion. You don't see how typical is this, right? You were suffering and you found the cure for your suffering in religion, and you think it's the truth. And Leo is your messiah and everything that Leo says is sacred word. Well, you aren't the only here with that problem

@Water by the River great text, thanks for sharing

So, why it's absolutely genius?