Breakingthewall

Jews have been hated for tribal identity and for envy. A tribal identity does not tolerate another tribal identity, hatred of those who are different is normal in any primitive human community, and Christians have been very primitive and very hypocritical throughout history, even more so than Muslims. Furthermore, the Jews are more intelligent and do good business, and they have a strong identity. An ancient Jew (and a modern one too) does not want his children to marry with non-Jews, they are completely racist, if that were not the case, they would have disappeared. For me, the ideal of humanity is the disappearance of group identities, the dissolution of all of them into one: humanity. but it seems that this is not close, and the Jews are not pushing in that direction, obviously. As long as this division exists, there will be tribal wars, like the one that has just begun Ok Anyway, the destiny of the Jews is very biblical. They were offered land in Africa and Argentina, but they preferred to go to that hell.

How is it possible that it took them 12 hours to come after receiving distress calls? Israel is very small, they have helicopters, trained special forces, etc. If they continue to occupy territory beyond their borders, they will only get more hatred. It is obvious that the Zionists want all the land, if they did not have the world watching, they would conquer Palestine and that's it, like 2000 years ago, but today it is impossible so they go little by little. This attitude must stop if they want the support of the West. The US should mediate seriously. They are playing with the excuse: they are bad savages, murderers, to expand their territory. The last thing Israel wants is a moderate Palestinian government. The Palestinians should be smarter and see this, but of course, the problem is that the Palestinians do not want the two-state solution either. So, here are two stubborn egoists facing each other. Those reasons are those of the Jews, yes, who have been around the world for 2000 years repeating that to themselves and that has kept them existing as an entity, without dissolving among the other entities where they have lived, which has brought them many problems. It is as if the Arabs wanted to return to Spain where they spent 700 years and founded cities that were very advanced for their time. In fact, there are Muslim movements that speak of Al Andalus. Those are unilateral reasons that do not take into account the other. In history it has always been like this and the solution has been the conquest and expulsion of the other group. but supposedly today this cannot be. So what is the solution? The only thing is to return the occupied territories, two states, not harass the Palestinians, protect the borders, and if there are attacks, eventually close them, as in Gaza, but without illegal settlements and expansionist projects.

seems quite obvious that Israel has encouraged Hamas to create an anti-Palestinian climate and thus be able to push them with impunity in the eyes of its population and the world. They are not interested in a civilized Palestinian government because that would leave them in a very bad place. By promoting Hamas they put themselves in a position to be the good guys in history. Their objective is to throw them out, and this massacre is perfect for their objective, that is why they have allowed it. Hamas is a puppet in the hands of the Israeli government. Once the heat and shock of the massacres have passed, things begin to look clear. Almost sure that the mosad knew that hamas was going to get in, and the army's incredible delay in helping the kibbutzs was almost certainly intentional. If so, the state of Israel is complicit in this, and the dogs of Hamas their puppets. The Israeli government takes advantage of the Palestinians' savagery and tendency to war to achieve its goals, which are obvious: the expansion of Israel. nothing new in human history, human groups in extermination, the same as always. It is sad to see that one of those groups is civilized but continues to behave the same under the civilized surface

Yes, I also tend to that vision but there are some things that make me think...why did they let Hamas in? Why did it take them 12 hours to send the army? I have seen videos where Hamas militiamen walk calmly. Weren't you in a hurry? Did they know that the army would not come? Besides, why does Israel continue to occupy territory? What is his goal doing this? sink Palestine? It's all murky, quite dirty. Right after the massacre I saw everything very clearly, but I see it less and less clear every time.

yes because...where are the aliens? They were supposed to be here, but they've been forgotten faster than Ukraine.

Sure. There is a lot of hate involved. It seems impossible that a solution is impossible, but it is so.

There are two things I don't understand. How is it possible that the army took 12 hours to help the kibbutz when there was telephone communication from the first moment of the attacks, and why the people of the kibbutz did not defend themselves, it is assumed that they have weapons and military training, and in the videos show Palestinians walking calmly through the gardens.

Yes, solving this is the important thing, but imagine that in Tel Aviv people come out to dance in the streets to celebrate the bombing of Gaza. What arrangement could there be? To find a solution there have to be will to find it

Really yes, they managed US like a puppet with minimal expense.

Maybe, But if those reactions are to gang rape girls and then torture them and spread the images, and burn families alive and approach children and kill them in cold blood, something would have to be done as a defense, right? because it is one thing to bomb Pearl Harbor and another to break the arms and legs of a 20-year-old girl after raping her and parading her in agony through the streets of your city while the entire population screams with joy.

Yeah, both are the case, Reality is what it is and our dual perception conceals it. A fetus has enough understanding to create itself in its enormous complexity, we could open urself to that understanding. I don't know to what extent it is possible having a human mind. I don't even know exactly how to do it. I would say that once you can be stable in an open state for hours you can go deeper into what reality is, but the first thing for now for me is to be able to stabilize that state without starting to interpret right away. The now is like a pond, if you are still, it becomes transparent and reality begins to manifest, but if you move it it becomes cloudy. That's why realizations with psychedelics are a bit misleading, because there is almost always too much movement even if there is openness, but they are much better than nothing. The goal is to achieve this in a clean way, without substances. Anyway, soon we are going to finish that human experience and become totally limitless, so why to be on hurry to understand. Imo the important thing is be as free as is possible just because it feels good, but freedom brings understanding, so at the end it's the same

It's just my vision, but what I am saying is that absolute understanding is already a fact, reality is that. I am now a self-created determined pattern of existence that is a superimposed experience of infinite reality. The only enlightenment is to open yourself completely to infinite reality, to what existence is, and that is not something relative. Relative is relating one thing to another, being alone with being with others. being infinite with being finite. If you open yourself completely to the now, there is no alone or infinite, since those are mental structures, it is realizing what you are, which is indefinable and you cannot think about it, since thinking is contrasting. The necessary understanding is about the current pattern that you are, about how you are constantly creating a mental bubble that encapsulates you, that defines and interprets reality and in this way veils it. wanting to understand the absolute is one of these barriers, you have to let go of them all. Reality without structures is neither definable nor interpretable, since as soon as you do that, you are automatically creating separation between you and reality, and that is unreal since there is no you separated from reality. Freedom is to dissolve the capsule of mental flow, to be now without structure. or at least that's my experience. You ask me if I have had god realization. I guess that means realizing that I am God and I am creating reality. I think that's not like that, but who knows. The most I can easily achieve is to realize the absence of limits of this moment, of the illusion that is the timeline, of how this experience is like a hologram that is superimposed on the substance of reality, which is the life flowing,. intelligence. I do not see that there is a god who creates, but this moment arising from limitless reality like a fountain. I see the limitless intelligence that is this moment, and that I'm this moment, not the self who analizes. intelligence that flows, perhaps that could be called God. I am sure that you can see deeper, and I try that for the beauty it implies, but openness to the now is the key and the objective. Drop the self completely. contemplation of the glory of existence comes later

It couldn't be more obvious. Jesus says: yes. love, forgive, live. Muhammad says: no. Don't drink alcohol, don't eat pork, don't make design of human figure, don't sin, or you'll go to hell. just look at all the hooded women in 45 degree heat. oppression, evil, hatred. If you take off your hood, they kill you. A paradise on earth. normal that they are suicidal

US directly bombed civilians in baghdad and the muslims did not react so violently. It is in Israel where his desire for revenge will be concentrated. US is too strong and it's too far. And nobody want to seriously anger US given the consequences

Yes, but still, the ego that understands more is freer. For me the goal is not understanding, but freedom, understanding is a tool.

My mother's family are Muslim from turkey, I don't hate the Muslims at all, I see their noble, proud and affectionate character, they are very good people in many cases, but their ideology has a childish component, of blind obedience, prohibition of questioning and evolving, which hinders them terribly. Life does not allow stagnation, moving forward is mandatory, and Muslims do not want to. This can lead to disaster.

The problem are Sweden, France and Holland. Tension with Muslims is growing there. not far away a right-wing extremist party will win and things like the banning of mosques will happen. Muslims will be provoked, and if they respond, they may be expelled. Those countries are not going to give in to terror, they are going to react. Events like Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan will multiply, and there will be a response

is a great example. Japan had imperial ambition, it tried with all its might, it faced the United States to the death, it was crushed with events such as the bombing of Tokyo with fire bombs or Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They saw that this path led to nothing, they decided to correct it, they forgot all that immediately and allied themselves with their enemy without the slightest resentment. that is looking forward, being intelligent, being alive. Muslims only look back, that leads to nothing, stagnation.

Well, maybe not the extermination as a race, just its disappearance as a state and its expulsion from the territory. Palestinians will not settle for less. When terrorism began, in 1920, there was not a territorial problem, but one of identity, religious. The 6-day war was not started over territory but over the founding of a state. An attempt was made to prevent it, but it was not possible, and we must assume and accept it. It is something that has happened, you have to live with it. Looking back eternally and feeding hatred is sick. The solution that is the Israeli expulsion is impossible and the apocalypse. but the Palestinians prefer that to accepting and looking for solutions and looking forward. It's a behavior against life, childish, immature, just for proud. Like: I prefer that all my kids die but save my imaginary proud

Your vision is that of the Arabs. you only see one side. What would be your reaction if you were systematically attacked with the intention of extermination for 100 years, including two attempted invasions by coalitions of countries much larger than yours. You can't relax, they want to kill you. If you want to survive you must control the situation. If you are benevolent to those who want your extermination, they will take advantage of that. They are not going to accept nice gestures, only your disappearance. Put yourself in that situation, what would you do? think about it honestly. Probably be much more hard

Totally agree, But we have to understand that the human being is extremely vulnerable and stupid and is not capable of being a free individual, he never has been, he needs group identity for his balance. Only today is a current of freedom emerging, but let's not fool ourselves, it is a minority and fragile. It is intelligence vs. stupidity, enlightenment vs. darkness, freedom vs. slavery. It's good to be aware of it.

Because there is a threat, but you are right in the sense that not all responsibility is Palestinian. The problem here is what has led human beings to war since they existed: identity as a group versus another group. Both have it, the Muslims with their hooded women, and the Jews who have survived as a group 2000 years without land, with it's orthodox fundamentalists . two group identities close together, the result is war. It doesn't matter what the cause is, there are a thousand possible sparks to light the flame, some will always occur. The thing is that seen from the outside it seems that the Israelis have a less closed identity, and it's getting more close and hard due the aggressive behavior of the Muslims, but perhaps this is an error of appreciation due to ignorance of what the situation is like seen from the inside. But it seems logical that the fact that all your neighbors hate you and want your extermination strengthens your identity as a group.

Because who wants to understand is the ego. Understanding is imaginary since the ego is an imaginary construction. Whether the ego understands more or less is irrelevant since it cannot have infinite understanding. any level of understanding that is not infinite is zero compared to infinity. There are only two levels of understanding, finite or infinite. finite is the same as nothing, since finite is illusion. The only function of understanding is to be able to free yourself from the mental capsule. Total openness is total understanding, since there is nothing to understand, it is in totality. Being is understanding and it's empty of content. That seems very disappointing for the ego, that always want more. Well, you can satisfy the ego if you want and explore, but first you should to understand what understanding is, what the self is, and what total openess is. For example, how can you understand that you are alone in existence? The only way is to compare it to not being alone. If there is no structure, you are not alone, that concept does not exist, so there is no understanding of being alone, just existence

Yeah sure, This is the history of humanity, full of movement and turbulence. now what to do? complain for the next 10 thousand years?

Saying that Israel wants a genocide is nonsense. Israel now has the duty to destroy Hamas, its survival is at stake, what has happened cannot be allowed. how to do it? It is extremely difficult. Entering the city with infantry and fighting a guerrilla battle with civilians living there would be a massacre of Israeli soldiers and Palestinian civilians. Doing this would be totally stupid because there is another option: empty Gaza, advance and destroy the buildings where there is resistance, minimizing the Israeli deaths, then place the entire population of Gaza in a concentration camp, identify the suspects (many thousands) and enjail them, then help the survivors rebuild Gaza. all of this an enormous task, being observed by the world