Breakingthewall

@Nivsch I am sorry that your country is going through this, it is something that is probably deeply affecting all Israelis. I hope the government can react rationally and intelligently.

It seems like they knew they could get to the rave. I suppose they knew about Israel's security failure, otherwise they wouldn't have done that thing with the paragliders, everything seemed calculated. Of course they don't know for sure the result of an action when they start it, but luck is with them. I bet they will release hostages and they would say: we were treated with respect, all public relations. Israel's public relations are the defense minister saying "human animals", maybe they should say they are the ubermenchen. It seems like they do it intentionally. Seen from the outside, all this seems like a strange low quality movie. When I said the opposite?

What do you think was Hamas's objective in this attack? Do you think the extreme cruelty was not calculated? Surely they had orders to do so, provoking a brutal reaction from Israel. Israel reacting like this achieves nothing, only appears weak. It cannot destroy Gaza, everyone is watching, no one remembers the attacks anymore, everyone thinks about the children in the hospital, no one cares that this is a lie, they want to believe the weak victim. All Muslims support them and many non-Muslims seem to be brave heroes fighting for their freedom. Israel seems like the villain, bombing children. and also extremely inefficient, allowing the attack. If Hamas could do that, would it be so difficult to pass a suitcase with a nuke? Islamic fanatics dare anything, death is what they like. How to live in Israel with that threat? It would have been much better to lock them up, not let anyone out, show restraint, make the world see that the Islamists are monsters, reinforce security as much as possible. Thus Israel could have continued expanding through the West Bank with the excuse of Palestinian evil. That's being smart, calculate, don't react by impulse. It's supposed that jews are the smart here and Arabs the stupid, but seems the opposite, the stupid Netanyahu talking about revenge, the other minister about human animals... after that horrible mistake in security. Seems very unprofessional, they have to run the most difficult county in the world and seems a couple of Stupids

I know that Israel don't kill civilians deliberately, but is killing civilians due an horrible security mistake. Israel is doing exactly what Hamas wants. Another mistake. If you show stupidity again and again and your enemy shows intelligence, bad business.

You are avoiding the main points. Israel has shown crazy incompetence by allowing the attacks. Now he demonstrates the stupidity of a foolish bear by declaring war on civilians and with it on all of Islam. Islam is billions of fanatics with nuclear weapons. What do you achieve by bombing children in Gaza? that Hamas leaders laugh from the moment they wake up in the morning?

Why go after the terrorists when it is much easier not to let them exit? In addition, there are millions of fanatics willing to replace them. It's just revenge and self-esteem, useless. It is going to harm Israel as a nation, it is just what Hamas wants. Israel is now a puppet of Hamas.

think that if Israel demonstrates absolute incompetence to the level of paragliding guys passing by without detecting them, this bombing of Gaza is useless. Now any Israeli knows that any day they can detonate a bomb like the one in Hiroshima in Tel Aviv, it is very possible with the necessary resources. bombing gaza is a foolish reaction to divert attention. When everything calms down, people will realize the psychological change this entails. Everyone thought of Mossad as a kind of James Bond with intelligent satellites monitoring everything, and some guys with a bulldozer come by and spend 10 hours killing. If it happens in Nicaragua ok, but in Israel...bad business

How about alarms that sound when someone destroys the border with a bulldozer, or cameras that detect movement and a guy watching? In any store there is that. and soldiers on duty to arrive by helicopter in 5 minutes. What was his strategy? Be sleeping? It's impossible for this to be unintentional, no one is that stupid.

Yes but emptiness is a limited perspective, if there are no limits, reality is everything, full of existence. The human pattern of existence brings with it the construction of mental structures, since we are a hive entity. Each individual must fit among other individuals, that perception of oneself in relation to others is the self. The self is made up of very powerful structures whose basis is the survival of the individual and the species, and they always create a limited reality. Penetrating these structures and dissolving them is the spiritual work we are supposed to do, since behind them is the total existence that is the only thing that exists, but not the "only" since it's everything. It is right here, now, we don't need to know anything just open ourself to it. This moment is eternal, bottomless and is the totality of existence. What I don't know is to what extent we can perceive how patterns are created and why. It seems that reality creates increasingly complex patterns to crazy levels, like a human, in a cyclical way, how and why you can intuit because all of that is now, here. If the flow of existence is perceived, the depth becomes manifest, but there are always human distractions that take us out of there.

So, since the Israeli government is absolutely incompetent, thousands of civilians have to die. It is really amazing that knowing that Hamas is a terrorist group, and that because of that they have closed Gaza, they have it unguarded, closed with a simple fence and they hold massive raves nearby. what did they think? that it was all a joke? being so incompetent is criminal

Yes, this war is just a reaction because a strong reaction was necessary so that Israel does not collapse psychologically, but it is useless, an enormous cost in lives for a minimal result, in addition to uniting the world against Israel. It is to play the game that Hamas wants. How can Israel end Hamas by invading Gaza? A hundred thousand or more would have to die to kill a few thousand militiamen, and many more equally radical groups would emerge as a consequence.

The word truth is confusing, since it suggests knowing something as opposed to being wrong. I would say that what we call truth is openness, and openness is dissolution of limiting structures. Without any structure what remains is unlimited existence. This is the truth but it is not thinkable since thinking is always structure. Epicurus says: if I am, death is not, if death is, I am not. You can change death for truth and the phrase is still valid. The self veils the truth, or absolute reality, and the denser the self, the more veiled it is. The self is the door that closes the truth. The door without door that is spoken in spirituality means that to access you have to drop yourself into the void, a quite difficult action since it's you who want to dissolve yourself. To what degree is the dissolution of the self possible? not to a full degree because a full degree is death

They don't care about the lives of Palestinians, they care about wounded Muslim pride. If the Kurds were bombed by the Turks they would not go out on the streets, they go out because those who bomb are Jews.

Thanks, I will watch it, let's see if it helps me to understand it better. But Ibn Arabi didn't learn mysticism from Quran, no mystic learn mysticism, mysticism is totally direct

I'm not christian, I just see that Christianity is an ideology that points to higher truths, the same as Buddhism, or the Native American stories of the great spirit for example The police or society does not have to forgive you, it means after death , or just god forgiving you, not the law No, it's just because we are analyzing Islam now. If we were analyzing catholics, I would tell you that Catholicism is false and sick shit, because it is, regardless of the fact that I have been baptized and part of my family are Catholic. That doesn't matter to me, but you can't talk bad about Islam because you feel like something yours, that's why you defend it

Changed. Thanks smartass 😉 😂 Poor viking

Ibn Arabi took everything from his real openess to the reality, that's why he was a mystic. Its my analysis, if you show me that I'm wrong, I'm going to admit it. For example, Catholicism full of falsehood and manipulation to empower the church, a real shit. Saying that a priest can make you go to heaven or hell with extreme unction or confession is false and has been the origin of great wars. but the essence of Christianity is not that.

@Breakingthewall I like a lot ibn Arabi, I think that no Christian mystic can compare to him. maybe meister eckart. but where is the quran in ibn arabi? I think he was a mystic who happened to be Muslim, but he is far beyond Islam. What I'm saying It is not a war, it is simply an analysis. Islam seems to me to be a very false religion, the same as, for example, Nordic mythology, and the Norse believed in it. I think that telling them that if they died in battle they would go to Walhalla with the walkiryes is a way to manipulate them, seduction, and Islam is also manipulation to use the individuals for the expansion of a society and idea.

divine channeling, I'm glad you realized If we talk about the new testament, they are completely different. The New Testament requires you to renounce your ego and love. It all comes down to one thing: love God and the others humans. The last will be the first, the prostitutes, the outcasts of the earth, etc. In short, bare your heart, open yourself to God. It doesn't matter what you do, in the end you will be forgiven. Islam commands you things and prohibits things to make you a kind of functional cog in a society dedicated to the expansion of that code. It is a kind of virus, which, through severe punishment and generous reward, possesses individuals and turns them into robots of Islam.

That's the old testament. It is supposed to be the old alliance between humans and God, with Jesus the new alliance begins, which invalidates the previous one. According to Islam, the Quran is written directly by God channeling through Muhammad, who was illiterate. God moved his hand to write it, and it is the word of God, literally. Sufis are something strange because they contradict the Koran quite a bit. they are prohibited in Iran if Im not wrong. If Muslims said: the Koran is symbolic, a parable suitable for the time of Muhammad, but it must be interpreted and recontextualized, then it could evolve, but it does not, it is the direct word of God and must be obeyed. Actually, the real good Muslims are the jihadists, that's the problem. and many Muslims know it and respect jihadists

It is logical that they say that, Ibn Arabi says that all religions are equally true, I don't know how it has lasted because that is blasphemous. Christianity and Islam are different. Christianity says that you forgive your debts, be poor, love God and your enemies, in short, abandon your ego, and you will enter the kingdom of heaven that is be with god. Islam tells you not to eat pork, not to drink alcohol, pray 5 times, do jihad, treat your slaves and your women well, and after death you will have servants, you will drink from gold cups and you will wear gold embroidered clothes. Otherwise, molten lead will be poured down your throat for eternity. I would say that Christianity points to the truth. It is a religion almost impossible to carry out, like Buddhism, since it requires abandoning the ego. Islam is easy, just act as you are told, but it does not point to any truth. It is just seduction

Do you think it is an evolutionary process? What I see is that Islam really is like that, and that a true believer is someone who believes what the Koran says. internet has given a voice to true believers, and they are attracting more and more people. You have spoken with believers and you have not been convinced, but weaker minds are seduced by the literalness of Islam, its sacredness. Islam exudes sacredness, its descriptions of paradise, its severe punishments, make simple people seduced. For example In the Koran it is said that in paradise you will have servants around you all the time serving you in golden cups. pure seduction

That's interesting, I would like to know more about it, since it seems that the Koran, being written directly by God, does not allow interpretation, it is literal, but on the other hand mystics like Ibn Arabi are totally openess. Sure, but the important thing is not those who have gone to fight in a war, obviously very few people will go voluntarily to that, but how many sympathize with that cause.

It's a misunderstanding. It happens when you realize the infinite. There is still duality, you perceiving the infinite. If you break all the barriers and let go of the self and are one with the infinite, there is no loneliness, there is only the infinite. Absolute freedom. it is not imaginable

I think there will be localized wars, but not a total war. the holy nukes prevent it. All wars in history are always to gain something. If the atomic arsenal is released, no one wins. look at the history of humanity, war after war, without pause, until Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Afterwards, the normal thing would have been a confrontation between the US and the USSR, but there was none. Never again has an atomic bomb been dropped on someone.