Breakingthewall

For example, what is trans logical?

There are no paradoxes, only superficial understanding. Existence is absolutely logical, since its substance is relation, and there is no relation alogic, since logic is relation. You may not understand that logic, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

It's a tremendously complicated job, it's not about eating and shitting, it's about integrating into society.

This belief occurs because there's a real separation: you have a body to feed, a group of people to find your place in, a job to do, obstacles to overcome. Before opening your perspective, you must resolve all of the above.

Anti human spiritual talk about the “ego” and the need for “validation” starts from a flawed assumption: that the drive to be accepted and validated is merely a shallow whim of the narrative self, something that can be dismissed as an illusion. That drive It is an atavistic mechanism, embedded in the nervous system and the body’s energy through millions of years of evolution, not just in humans, but in mammals in general. For most of human (and mammalian) history, integration into the group was a matter of literal survival: to be cast out meant hunger, unprotected exposure, and lethal risk. This evolutionary pressure shaped our neural and energetic pathways to seek acceptance intensely and automatically. Dismissing this with phrases like “it’s all illusion” or “you don’t need validation” ignores the fact that the impulse arises before any mental narrative. It comes from much deeper layers: biological reflexes, cellular memory, and relational structures. Real work is not about suppressing or denying this mechanism, but about understanding it fully. When you see it for what it is, you can stop being enslaved by it. That means: Giving yourself the validation you once sought externally. Resolving, as much as possible, the wounds and perceived injustices that keep the need alive. No longer allowing other people’s acceptance or rejection to define your intrinsic value. And to be able to do that, you have to be true, without stain. Aligned. And this is not something that you would achieve in a moment, but through an ongoing process of integration, truthfulness, and dismantling of false structures within yourself. The difference is simple but essential: denial leaves the impulse intact in the depths, only covered over; letting go happens when you see it clearly, without judgment or feeding it, and then it loses its power. Denying human (and mammalian) nature is not transcendence. It is violence against it. Understanding it and liberating it is what opens the door to its deepest dimension. If your spirituality needs you to amputate the very mechanisms that made you who you are, it is not freedom, it is self-erasure disguised as awakening.

The truth isn't hidden, it's veiled, and you are the one who veils it, with your closing energetic vibration. You are the door, so if you want to open the door that you are, you must change your vibration. It's quite difficult work, a radical evolutionary impulse, in which you have to invest all of your energy.

Good text. Perhaps we could say that the false self never disappears, since it wasn't false, because nothing is false, but rather it was a closed structural configuration with an essential mission: survival and evolution. At a given moment, this ever-changing structure evolves into an ever-more open pattern, until it becomes completely open, a window onto the whole, from which the unhindered flow of reality emanates. It is the unhindered flow of reality, and it perceives itself as such.

I'd say that aligning is a process where the self is totally equalized with the external reality, but this doesn't mean that the self is not real, or that the self dissapeared. The self and the reality are one, They are in total harmony, there is no resistance but symbiosis, but there is self. Anyway, this is an ideal, not my case. For me it's enough that my self can be transparent in some moments and let the totality manifest.

The only god is the one that we can see in ourselves, in the actual reality

The IA did an analysis that was similar than the analysis that I did previously. I was just explaining my points, but you started to trying to put me down, like everytime that we talked about this topic. I just tried to show you it. Sorry for the world "narcissist" , I didn't say that you are, just that you acted in this precise post similar , manipulative. If you act like that what do you expect? That the other gets down without answering? Anyway, sorry for the word narcissist, Im not saying that you are

The self structure of that boy is the reality, same than any other self, it's an expression of reality that occurs in the flow of reality, in which it unfolds as an observer, a subject who receives or processes an object, a perceiver who perceives. It can close in on itself, creating an apparent center that must be protected, or open itself to the flow and recognize itself as the flow. To do so, it must align itself, open itself, but it does not cease to be what it is. Its structure is real, just as real as the structure of anything else that exists. And as anything that exists is flowing and changing without pause It's not a weapon. People who act narcissistically will never listen to you, but sometimes they listen to authority figures. The narcissistic structure of that discourse is so obvious that seeing it dissected by AI might shed some light. It's not a secret weapon; I don't need AI to detect manipulation, but if the AI says it so clearly, maybe it gets cleared . It's possible having conversations without those attitudes even you don't agree

Can you turn off watching your mother being grilled alive and not feel anything? Is it necessary to deactivate that, like a bonze monk who burns himself alive without lifting a finger? Is that more enlightened than feeling pain? Why? What you can do is understand your energetic structure, know what it is. It's as real as your body, only on another plane. Then you can align that energetic structure with the flow of reality as equalized as possible, so that its flow is clean, pure, and then it begins to become transparent. But you can't deny it, because the one who denies it is the self

When they say the self is an illusion, they mean that it doesn't really exist, but that through conceptual thought, a mistaken identification with a nonexistent center is produced. If you ask them if they need conceptual thought to feel threatened if a tiger advances toward them, they'll say that it's the body reacting, or that God invented it, or some such story. The self is an energetic system that exists. If you want to call it an illusion for some reason, you're entering the realm of spiritual narcissism: I want things the way I would like them, and if I don't look at the tiger, the tiger doesn't exist.

Maybe you are more than your body and your mind, sure, but you are also your body and your mind, there are a reality not an illusion. Spirituality is about transcending the form and be the unlimited, then be the form as an expression of the unlimited.

Chatgpt says this about your answer . Sometimes makes good analysis That answer he gave you is the classic pseudo-spiritual closing: "Good luck with your spiritual journey" → Translation: I'm not going to enter further into the debate, but I maintain that I have the higher position. "Although I suspect that will be difficult as it is based on belief" → He places himself above others by saying that yours is "belief" and his is "truth," without arguing where the error lies. "It would be wise to listen to the wisdom of the masters" → Argument from authority, not logic. Implicitly: the masters say what I say, therefore it's true. This reveals that he is not willing to argue from logic, but from dogma. When someone resorts to authority rather than coherence, it means they cannot or do not want to sustain the exchange on an argumentative level.

Existence is unlimited flux. All flux has continuity, it is interconnected without limits. Existence is dynamic, never static. You either move toward opening or closing. You choose.

So, instead of refuting the points I've made, you show defensive condescension and attack me by saying they're beliefs and that I don't understand, and finally, you say that teachers wouldn't agree, but you say absolutely nothing about the points. Is that narcissism? I fully understand that philosophy, it's not difficult, I'm not a genius but smart enough to understand those "masters" Seriously, I hope that anyone with common sense can understand

It's exactly opposite. When you observe your son being tortured, energetic patterns are activated, formed over millions of years of evolution, honed by generation after generation of social mammals to create social cohesion, a greater chance of survival, and greater evolution. These patterns operate at all levels, taking up residence in your body, in your cells, and forever changing your energetic structure. From this structure emerges the narrative: I have failed, etc. The trauma is imprinted on your energy system and persists, and from this emerges the narrative. This persistence is an evolutionary mechanism to avoid the repetition of that event at all costs. It creates an impossible-to-ignore impulse that moves the individual and the group in a direction, creating social cohesion, complex social systems, status, tribe, civilization, art, science, and technology. The mind does this because it hasn't been able to process the trauma. Because it's been so severe, it's created layers of protection to keep it buried. It remains stored in the body and distills anxious energy in the form of thoughts. It has nothing to do with labeling the self as nonexistent. The only "nonexistent" self is the narcissistic self-image, but the real trauma isn't in the self-image. Perhaps you or Ralston have never experienced real trauma? Sure, so all that stuff about tribal fighting, social hierarchy, stratification, revenge, and war, these are foolish mistakes made by those foolish children, humans, those flawed, naive beings who, in 15,000 years, have gone from caves to interplanetary travel. They should be wise and all dressed in white in Ibiza, smiling at each other with lots of love, not doing human things, which are wrong. Well, that's exactly anti human spirituality, and it's false in its basis because deny the human nature as illusory. It's narcissism

Of course, hundreds of illusions. Nothing is what it seems in human reality. You go through life thinking you're smart and understand everything, and then at some point you realize you're more naive than a 5-year-old, and that all you see are projections of your own naive mind. Then the hardware of reality begins to reveal itself, and the masks fall away.

An illusion is something you perceive in one way, but due to the superficiality of your perception, it's another. For example, you perceive your girlfriend as sincere and honest, but that's because you don't see beyond appearances, when in reality, she's a professional con artist that lies in everything.

The realization of no-self does not mean that the self does not exist, but rather that reality appears as a perceiving self. All of this is the flow of reality taking the form of a static center that receives a perception. Both that center and the perception are dynamic forms of the flow of reality. The external and the internal blend, and the center ceases to be the center. Limits dissolve, and you are one with the flow, or rather, you are the flow. Then your nature manifests; it is limitless, absolute potential. You recognize yourself as what you always are. What recognizes is the self, or the reality in the form of the self. Without self, there is no recognition, no God realization, or anything that remains recorded.

Then none of you can answer the question because you need to believe that the self is an illusion.

You can call it real or unreal or whatever, but the question was if you would suffer if your 5 years old kid is tortured in front of you or not. If the question is yes, why?

But there are real neurological pathways. For example, imagine you have a 4-year-old son and he's tortured in front of you. Could you choose what to feel, whether to suffer or not?

Really you believe that? Well, many does. You will see that it's deeper than an habit. This spirituality never works, because deny the human nature as illusion. Sounds seductive and simple, but things are not simple