Breakingthewall

One has a human but same time is a human. What I was asking you was not that but your opinion on the degrees of realization and understanding being an human, or having an human if you prefer It's obvious that being a human, or having a human, there is always veil . Leaving aside the issue of mental suffering, let's say that that plane has been left behind, the true substance of reality is constantly transparent. You are happy , medal and diploma (it's a great step, jokes aside). Even so, it is obvious how the structure of being human allows for a limited vision of what reality is. You can capture its quality but it will always be mixed with the human processing structure in part. The game is to identify that and try to perceive it in the cleanest way possible.

Everyone in spirituality say that but I see a misunderstanding there. Conciousness doesn't appear as anything, it's the reality that appears as people, and conciousness arises of this fact, because conciousness is inherent to reality but reality is more than conciousness. because, is there awareness if there is nothing to be aware of? Give just a chance to that reasoning for a moment even you think it's wrong. You can do that in part. As you said, reality, or consciousness or whatever we call it, appears as a human. Call it dream, creation or whatever, the fact is that it does. This human is a solid structure. if you want mental, but solid. You can dissolve it momentarily and open yourself to the formless but then it will return exactly as it was. You cannot decide to transform into a bird and no longer be human. Why? because you are a human now, it is inevitable. If reality/consciousness is now a human, what does this mean? is it a dream? rather a creation, since it is stable, solid and cyclical, but call it dream if you want. The substance is always the same, but the form changes. So, regarding solipsism, if this razard form disappears, what remains? the formless. and the other forms? were they imaginary? okay. but imagined by whom, by razard or by the formless? If it is because of the formless, then only Razard disappears, the other forms remain. Because the formless is unlimited, not limited to the form razard

yes different ways of expressing the same thing. But, don't you agree in part with Leo gura that there are degrees? Let's see, the fact of being human means in the vast majority of cases getting lost in the psyche. Let's say that you have unraveled this enigma and the true being manifests in you constantly and clearly. Even so, there will always be human mud, limitation. As you said in another post, reality understands itself, but to what extent being human? The fact of being human is a reality, and the transparency that this allows is limited. Yes, you can be one with the true self all the time, be happy and have banished mental suffering (not 100%), but never be completely free from the envelope, from the human structure. If so, there will be levels of clarity. By being human I mean, since for reality, the true being or whatever you want to call it, free of form, there is only one level, the total level.

You no dissolve suffering, you are one with your substance, then there is happiness. If there is happiness, there is not suffering

Other people are you, and just like you, they are infinite. There is nothing finite, everything is real, since only one thing exists: reality, aka you. nothing can be unreal if its substance is reality, it is obvious. We should not give importance to the awareness of reality, since it is limited and variable, therefore relative. The important thing is existence, it is always the same: infinite.

The intelligence of reality is flowing. from absolute emptiness creates forms of unimaginable perfection that move, combine with each other, dance in a dance of unthinkable magnitude. Its beauty is the beauty of God, of the intelligence that emerges from the infinite abyss. One of its manifestations is organic life, which evolves to become self-aware and open to total intelligence in a new dimension. This evolution from bacteria to technological civilization is a manifestation of total intelligence, and in its process an infinite number of structures that the total mind creates are combined. One of these ingredients is suffering, and it is obvious that its purpose is evolutionary thrust. Human suffering is the push of a birth, from which a new dimension is born. Just another movement in the dance

The problem is the word conscience. If you are aware of this, you cannot also be aware of another experience at the same time. It is a misunderstanding because you are not aware of the experience, you are the substance of the experience, and this substance is infinite, therefore it can create infinite experiences, and in each one consciousness arises since what exists implies consciousness. reality is one, consciousness is separate

Yeah it seems legitimate. What better place to have mashamadi than at a dinner with the Indian ambassador in los Angeles

Yes, perfect, there are many ways to describe living reality, what reality is, its substance. We agree on that. What I am saying is that it is possible to also perceive its form, its pattern of existence, since you are both the essence and the form. Perceiving the substance of reality is the essential thing, enlightenment, but you can also perceive the form. Not because any reason, but why not? We are humans, we have the impulse to go further, never stop in a point.

The movie is the screen, just that the meaning of the movie is irrelevant, just the substance matters. The substance is always here, just beneath the surface of meaning

God is not someone who does things and then finds himself again, but rather absolute intelligence taking forms, evolving in complexity and movement. It is not hidden to play but because it is the smartest way to create. Intelligence does not care about suffering, it only does what intelligence does: as intelligent as possible. It is absolute intelligence, and every molecule in the cosmos is in the most intelligent place possible. If that place is suffering, there will be suffering.

The absolute freedom , the total glory of existence, total happiness without stain. perfect, clear, infinitely deep. hallelujah is the word

It's about narcissism and lies . A small obstacle in the way that would be a good thing to overcome

Yeah, I close my eyes and sometimes I perceive absolutely clear the layers of structure that shape this concrete moment, the alive intelligence that is creating this moment and how it's happening, then the structures can be dissolved. With some psychedelic more clear, but sometimes without, that's why I talked about that. That of the light that you mentioned is great but I guess that you are perceiving that there is something concrete existing, right?

Thinking about it, I think everything about mashamadi is bullshit, almost sure. It is like the siddhis. They say they exist but they never are shown. We always have to leave some space for doubt and be open minded, but seems that it's a lie . I mean, maybe it's possible, but not in the way that they told, like a premeditated act. For example the yogananda death was a heart attack and then they said it was mashamadi, this kind of histories

You are not inside your body, you are a structure of concrete reality, patterns upon patterns forming a certain perception, an appearance of a unique and totally concrete experience. Within this experience is your body, your memory, etc. This structure is temporary, at some point it will disappear. Its substance is what creates anything else, living intelligence. What you really are is the living intelligence, and that living intelligence at any given moment could disintegrate this concrete structure, as it will. The thing is that the structure itself is connected and is one with the intelligence to such a point that they act in a totally synchronic way, that is, that the structure dictates what the intelligence does, so to speak. Is it possible? Maybe , but maybe not, unknown territory

Some days ago I was meditating in the park at night with a little THC, I was looking at a tree and I saw what the tree was, the living infinity flowing in it, then I saw that everything was alive, full, I got up and felt waves of energy coursing through my body at a level that was difficult to bear, I opened myself to it, tears fell down my face, it seemed as if an impossible monster of energy was emerging from this moment, it was completely overwhelming, like a nuclear reactor at full power, I thought: come on, more. This lasted about 20 minutes, with many fluctuations, a beautiful opening. My feeling was that at a given moment this could kill, disintegrate this experience. My feeling was that this moment is veiled since this is necessary for it to be concrete. you can disintegrate it on a mental level. Let me explain,: you can see it as a hologram inside you, see that everything is an illusion and disappears. This is one facet of awakening, but there is another: you can open yourself to its substance, to its energy. I would say that we are open to that energy to a point. We can cause a greater opening of energy flow at a given or permanent moment, this translates into a more alive, stronger experience. but we cannot open the tap completely, if the opening is total, it would be like looking at a supernova, you would be disintegrated. Just a feeling, maybe it's not the case, but I remember that I read that Ramakrishna and some of his disciples died quite young, maybe it's something related

I don't like NN DMT, For me it has the same effect as 5meo DMT but more superficial and short, and you have to vape a lot. I will try pharmahuasca, let's see. I have tried doing malt and vaping 5meo dmt in the middle of the trip, but I don't think I will do it again because it's like doing 5meo dmt, it doesn't make sense. Malt for me is very earthy, like mushrooms or more, completely different than 5meo dmt. 5meo dmt for me is always the same, it completely erases the psyche and only the unfathomable remains. It took me a while to get used to it, but once you do it, it's an incredible meditative tool, something that makes you move forward at great speed.

Most of our mental processes are inherited. Tens of thousands of generations have been shaping our way of processing, all on genetic bases aimed at survival. No one cared if you were happy in the Middle Ages, as long as you didn't starve or be enslaved. The entire rigid system of thought and emotion in which the individual is completely at the service of the tribe, the clan, the nation, has come to us diffused but still strong. It seems that the human being tends towards the liberation of suffering, which is a tool for the survival and evolution of the species, for the simple reason that it is no longer necessary, but the total dissolution of its mechanisms is not an easy job. Not impossible as you know, but let's see if some centuries of stability and science free the humans from the need of war, external and internal.

thanks for appreciating it. Yes, it is completely possible but first we must understand the dynamics of the mind, how our programming drags us. This understanding is not a mental, verbal, defined understanding, it is the understanding that occurs when you see something, for example a children's puzzle and you understand how the pieces fit together, that is why psychedelics are extremely useful, even a little weed can be a great breakthrough in someone accustomed to introspection and meditation

I understand what do you mean, You think that limits, absence of limits, etc., are mental constructions. Indeed they are, based on direct experience. My direct experience now is completely empty of interpretation, it's just reality happening, so if you want we don't talk about anything, my mind is empty of identification, I don't think I'm God, or absence of limits or anything, I'm stuck in the moment that happens, the nature of existence, of what I am is perceived all time. zero mental drift, flowing moment. Starting from this, mentally I know that it is possible to deepen, expand my perception by completely dissolving what seems to be happening and entering into it's substance deeper than now. This is a fact, an action, so if you make this deep enough, this moment completely loses its dynamic quality, of something that happens or flows, and manifests as absolute depth, the source of reality that is the reality itself without any limitation. The point of doing this is to be one with your true nature on a much deeper level. I know that there is no difference between that and the normal experience, it's exactly the same, what changes is my perception, but it's unavoidable that your perception is in a superficial mode to function, so it's possible a deeper mode

In my direct experience there seem to be limitations since I am a bubble of reality, a defined structure. the absence of limitations is manifested when you break the structure completely for a while, for example with deep meditation or psychedelics, but the structure is real and returns Breaking the structure and opening this moment completely. the first times with high doses of vaped 5meo dmt, then with meditation and lsd, then with meditation and low dose of thc, then only meditation, although it is difficult, the structure is solid and real And? Awareness is inherent to reality, but it is not reality. What is awareness without anything to be aware of? cessation, non-existence. In your direct experience there is always something to be aware of, not necessarily something concrete, it can be the fact of existing, what you are. This is auto aware, it is the substance of reality and it is living intelligence. But even living intelligence is secondary, although inherent, to the absence of limitations, the total depth that is the source of reality and the reality itself. To say that awareness is what you are is a duality between subject and object. awareness is the subject. This subject, even though it is empty, pure, is the self. Still a limited vision. Awareness is absolute, but the infinite intelligence is absolute too. Both arise due the absence of limitations. I told you that it's not mental construction. I know that realization you talk about, that change of perspective perfectly. As I told you, it's a necesary step, it's a big shift, is the end of mental suffering, enlightenment if you want, but it's not the end of the opening to what reality is

Yes seems that, because you are the perspective. That means that it's only this perspective? I don't think so, because I can observe and see others, perceive them deeply and see that they are infinite, as me. Maybe I'm wrong, but seems quite obvious that no. Anyway, spiritual thing is open to myself, not to know what the others are, or anything else

Yes but this now has many perspectives. Where are them?

You can perceive the substance of all that, and realize what it is. You can perceive deeper and see the flow of intelligence and life that the color red is, then you could go deeper and perceive the absolute glory that emerges from this red and this moment, and you perceive that it have to be veiled in part because it could kill you.