Breakingthewall

Thought is the manifestation of the self, not its substance. The human self has a genetic basis, and develops in life in society, since humans are hive entities.

The infinite given its infinity has infinite manifestations, infinite dimensions, which means that ultimately they are all unreal, since in comparison with the infinite they are zero. only infinity itself is real. It is the same to know a lot or a little, since you cannot know everything. But you can know what infinity is because it is you. So at the end, only the substance matters, because the form is a mirage, that disappear when it's confronted with the infinity

Enlightenment has always been something concrete: identifying with existence, with your substance, your true self, call it whatever. with what makes plants grow, gravity attracts, stars burn, life is alive, etc. This is a fact, a reality. When this occurs, the form takes a backseat. It doesn't matter if you are a leper or if you are sentenced to life in a Russian prison, life or death. you are one with reality. This is not the infinite, but being infinite is its quality. It is existence, being, truth, you. The work is to be one with this, leave the accessory and get closer to the essential. To be one with the truth you must abandon the lie, the ego tricks, it's quite obvious The problem is searching in the wrong direction. The direction is inside, not outside. the essence, not the manifestation. Who cares about knowing or understanding if I am divided, blocked, alienated? The priority is opening myself totally, then let's explore. I think that no real understanding is possible if it's blockage, barriers. All understanding will be contaminated.

5meo was the key for me, but it has the characteristic that it is violent and artificial. That is to say, I have very solid barriers that compartmentalize my experience, my perception, so with 5meo I destroy them for 5 minutes, but my whole being is pressing to create the barriers again, so there is an unbalanced, strange sensation, and there is a tendency to conceptualize. Absolutely useful and necessary but not an end in itself. For me, after making this break many times, the next step has been with low doses of weed, once weed does not make you think but you can meditate, achieving exactly the same effect, only more progressive and natural, the complete dissolution of limits, recognizing the pure existence that you are again and again, with the consequent return to contraction. Every time you do it you weaken your defenses, your being drifts a few degrees in that direction . Now the challenge is to get it sober. What is obvious is an overall experience, 24/7, totally different, fluid, with less anxiety by several orders of magnitude. once the reaction begins, it does not stop, there is only one end: the permanent total opening to reality, because it's obvious that we are that, anything else is twisted, anxious perception in more or less extent.

The thing is, if you remove all the human thing, all the ideas, fear, barriers, what remains? It is exactly the same thing that makes a plant, or an alien, or a hydrogen molecule. There is no real difference between a hydrogen molecule and the alien with a brain the size of a galaxy, the only difference is quantitative, but that is irrelevant to what concerns us. Of course it is fascinating and I want to take LSD and open myself to the cosmos, but first you have to open yourself completely in the other direction, to limitless existence and recognize yourself in it. I can really do that after meditating for hours, it is a job that requires time, it is like separating two magnets, they attract and come back again and again, at first you achieve 1 second, then 1 minute, then your entire experience is more in that direction, but the inertia of a whole life push in the other direction, the identification, the limits. Spiritual work is opening up to the formless in an easy and regular way and identify yourself with that. to do this you have to eliminate the lie about yourself, or at least that's what I see, and understand how we set limits, then it becomes easier. It is not something that you can think about, I am nothing, etc., but something that you have to do, you have to take off all the limits from yourself until pure, bottomless existence remains. If you are totally open to the bottomless, there is no more, it is bottomless, without limit, then you are the same as the plant, the alien, the proton and anything else. From there you can focus on the other direction, the realization of the structures that existence forms, the dynamics of the cosmos, there are many awakenings in that, and they are all of enormous beauty, but without being clear about the first, they tend to madness.

Exactly, You could say that any positive teaching is toxic. Only teachings that tell you what is false can be useful, those that tell you what is true cannot, I think are always obstacles

@Davino The mind is programmed to go in the direction of "more." This is how life works, it is its drive, evolution, and our mind is a reflection of this. but there is no more to search once you open yourself to the absence of limits, total existence. At first it is extremely difficult to achieve it for a second, then you educate yourself to settle there since the rest is illusion, the mirage that life gives itself to create. you have to follow it, but knowing what it is. The mind rebels everytime, wants more, but it's a mistake, there is no more than everything . If you identify yourself with the existence, the form is irrelevant. Of course the inertia is enormous and any imbalance will make you identify with the form again, but then you realize the anxiety inherent to the identification with the form and you look for the freedom

I do not deny that possibility, I say that there is nothing that is more than the total limitlessness that exists. but when you realize that, you realize how this experience is a reflection of that, how it permeates everything, how the living abyss that is in all forms. But it doesn't matter a proton or a hyper-evolved Alien, in both of them existence shines completely. It does not shine more on an elephant than on a leaf, both are the totality

Yes , the complexity of the forms can range from a proton to a multidimensional entity of unimaginable proportions, but both are essentially the same. Both are what you are, the total bottomless existence. It doesn't matter to you to perceive what an alien perceives millions of times more evolved than a human if you cannot open yourself to the total emptiness that exists. The form is wonderful, but what we should try is to open ourselves to the substance, and this, by definition, is independent from the form.

If you realize the absolute, you also realize that it's the same one thing than another. Of course it's very difficult to be in this realization because it's almost impossible don't doing differentiations, but the thing it that it's the same a deeper realization that another less deeper. It's possible more clean, that means without the contamination of the form, but if it's totally clean, that's it. If you need to realize more depth, it's because it's not clean. If it's totally clean can't be cleaner. If you need to know things, how the things are, that is form, so relative, just what you should remove to have a cleaner realization of what you are. For that you have to realize that it's the same one thing or another, so you stop needing to know

The biggest mistake is believing that the absolute truth is realizing how things are, when it's what things are. The how it is always mind, it is not false, it is relative and always subject to doubt. What you are is absolutely true and you are right now, but you must remove all the barriers because otherwise what you are does not really manifest, if there is any limit, the perception will be veiled. The only truth is that you are the reality. There is nothing to say about this, just open yourself to it completely.

There are infinite relative truths and one absolute truth. The absolute truth is what you are, the substance of reality and it can't be said. To realize what you are you have to be totally empty.

That dream is not like that. It seems to me to be a total error of appreciation but who knows. It implies that you are the creator of this experience. If so, why can't you make the slightest change? Leo thought he could make healings, real changes, and no. Why, if you are god? I do not see any creator god, I see intelligence that creates infinitely synchronized forms, a living infinite kaleidoscope that moves and self-organizes in the most intelligent way possible in synchronic cycles of existence. There is no god behind, it is this, now, developing, and its substance is existence aka you, the whole but same time just a part

Yes, total detachment is very difficult, but at least enough to be able to face the loss of form, otherwise life becomes a hell of anxiety since impermanence is impossible to face For me the only way is to realize that everything is in this moment. It's not something you can see all the time but if you can see it sometimes it makes a big difference.

Let's say that everything that exists is the potential of the infinite made into form. your girlfriend, your mother, the thief who steals from you, your school, etc. all that and your way of processing and perceiving, everything that forms your experience is reality, what we are, taking forms from other forms. When this dissolves everything will continue to exist, just without form. You will not lose anything, since forms are appearances, their substance is what matters and that is permanent. Then another dance of shapes will begin, created by other shapes within shapes. That's what seems to be reality. The smartest thing is not to get attached to anything, since everything continues to exist. The girlfriend you love so much exists even if her form is no longer evident, so does everything. Infinity is total and there is nothing that can be lost, you always have everything, only the form changes. enlightenment is opening completely to the formless, the total. then the form loses relevance and so does death

I suppose it is impossible to know because the way to process this experience is in a specific dimension, a timeline, and reality is all dimensions, so if this experience disappears and pure, unlimited existence remains, what would I remember? infinite experiences? I would say that the most likely thing is that this experience will end and another will automatically begin, taking the structure of this experience as a basis. Another question would be what are experiences? Why are they inevitable? I suppose that the level of complexity, let's say the level of consciousness of subsequent experiences, will be such that the understanding of reality and the cosmos will be much deeper, until reaching an experience of maximum complexity, the culmination of cosmic evolution, and then everything will be disintegrate and start again from the basics without any planned map, only spontaneous creation of total intelligence. An eternal cycle

Exactly, existence recognizes itself and all questions have only one answer: existence is. There are no limits and that is what we are, the practices, whether meditation, psychedelics or whatever, must be oriented towards that realization because it is freedom. To realize the unlimited existence that we are, you only have to do one thing: eliminate all barriers.

The ego must know and understand itself deeply, otherwise the trap catches you, there are no shortcuts, that is why this is so difficult. The ego is a cunning construct, created by evolution for a purpose. This purpose is not for you to be free but functional. Without ego there is no human life, first you must immerse yourself in the ego, to then be able to get out of it, if that ego is astute and smart enough, if it is not it will be trapped in itself

people are not interested in truth or freedom, they are interested in superiority In other aspects of life ok, but in what we are dealing with now, things are simpler. If there is any mental barrier, no matter how minimal, you are trapped in the mind. If there is none you are free. there is no middle ground

You have to know and understand how the mind limits you to be able to break the limits. If there is a limit, even a subtle one like that about nothing, it traps you

Because I know that any differentiation is a mental structure, and that are the limits. To be totally open to what it is, there must be zero structure

@Davino but maybe a moment arrives that I think that something was missing, you could be right.

That's a trap, limits you.

Empty your mind of meaning and open your perception, perceive the intelligence flowing, the energy arising, the perfection appearing

Exactly, that is an idea that frees