Breakingthewall

Nice tale, seems that make happy some people, same than all the other religions. People needs logical tales to be grounded and happy , but it doesn't mean that they are true

If that were the case, and you reached a state of total consciousness, you could fly, make planets disappear, create other universes, etc. and it seems that no one can even move a candle flame with their mind

As I see it now, the ego, the separation, is the way that reality has to go deeper into itself. The deeper the division, the deeper reality dive in itself. Pain, suffering, sadness, are really tools of opening that reality creates to dive deeper and thus be able to create more complete, complex, refined, sublime forms. It is something like cell division, reality is divided into two, but they are the same, it creates a kind of psychosis that is the seed of new forms. the necessary pain of childbirth, from which perfection springs.

I think sadhguru simply says that the ego dissolves and enlightenment is achieved, where the individual disappears and reality remains. existence continues, but without the self/other duality, which is the illusion that is created by karma. once this occurs, the following cycles of existence are non-dual, without the contraction of the self. It would be said that consciousness evolves in infinite parallels with different contents. An inevitable quality of infinity is that everything is infinite, that is, this experience is complete infinity, but there are infinitely many parallel experiences in all directions and they all evolve infinitely. In this human dimension we all share the illusion of duality and little by little some are forced to abandon it. All this seems to be a movement of the infinite to create a more conscious experience of itself, for which it must be divided to become aware of its division, and from there it can become aware of its unity. Without the previous division, existence is unconscious of itself in this deep level, it needs division and suffering to gain depth and then dissolve the division to continue evolving infinitely, without the unpleasant illusory duality necessary at this stage. After this, there will be countless and unimaginable processes dictated by infinite intelligence to which consciousness will submit to follow its infinite movement.

The structure of reality is so amazing that seems impossible. A proton is an entity of unimaginable complexity, incredibly stable, but also cyclical. The intelligence of reality only has one limit: perfection

It's not a transcendentalist trap, It is realizing what you are without getting lost in the form. The form absorbs you, obviously it exists and is something, it can be a human, an alien, a cockroach or whatever, but beyond the form is the absolute, your true self, eternal, immutable. You can realize it, its face is behind everything, you can open your eyes and see it, see yourself. This does not mean that you understand absolutely anything, nor why things happen, the forms, what will happen when this form disappears.... but you can see your true face and open your heart to it, to you. there are no several aspects, the aspects are form, and obviously are many, but the absolute is formless, always the same, its light always present

You can try to force yourself a little, 3, 4 day intensive meditation retreats without a phone in the nature for example, then return to the city, and your tendency will become clearer with time

You are a sommelier of the minds

Normal, we are humans, not plants. Within our facets the social pushes strongly. Thousands of genetic triggers make different springs spring. There are people, like Ramana Maharshi and those, who do not have that genetic compulsion, but most of us have to finding our place in human society, which is quite difficult. It is a software from which you cannot escape, any attempt at evasion, in my opinion, takes you to a deeper and more complicated prison. It is better to look your desire in the face and materialize it. As Muhammad said, Leave the things of which you doubt for the things in which there is no doubt. It's simple, just listen yourself. Maybe your destiny is being a true ascetic in communion with nature.

Exactly, everything is memory. layers and layers of memory. I suppose that gravity and nuclear forces will be memory of other dimensions or universes. Your experience right now is the memory of countless past lives, from bacteria to this moment. I do not see that it is necessary to get out of the wheel, since when you manage to get out of the oppression of the evaluative mind and free yourself, you realize that this is neither more nor less the paradise. Creation is wonderful, but it is hidden behind a mask of negativity that drives the movement. spirituality is unlocking those phases and opening the code. a difficult work, but possible

This is a weird point. I do use psychedelics, but in increasingly lower doses. Yesterday I was meditating some hours with 15 ug of LSD, and I really perceived with total clarity how consciousness was hiding from itself in the human tapestry. Behind all the color I clearly perceived the immensity, and that was me. the immensity smiled, it is permanently joyful, and it wants this game. How to say that something that wants something, and that has an attribute such as being joyful, or infinitely intelligent, is nothing? there is still identification there it seems. But in another hand, if the infinite intelligence were indifferent, there would be nothing. But maybe there is something because the absence of limitations of the reality, it's inevitable, and "god" is just the existence balancing the inevitable flow. Because, if not, why you or anyone can't change anything, even when you are totally identified with the absolute? Why are you, leo, anyone powerless, and god omnipotent, if you are god?

Behave in this present world as if you had to live forever, and behave in the future world as if you had to die tomorrow Muhammad Sink your existence in the ground of darkness, because if the seed is not buried, it does not produce in abundance. Ibn Atâillâh Leave the things of which you doubt for the things in which there is no doubt, Muhammad.

There is not human conciousness, there is human form. Conciousness is always conciousness, and it's infinite. Or maybe do you think that the conciousness of a cockroach is less infinite than the conciousness of a human, or of an Alien? If you think so, you are confusing conciousness with form, then it would mean that you don't understand what conciousness is, but I think you do There is not human conciousness, there is conciousness of a human. Same that could be conciousness of a cockroach. But the point here is to perceive what conciousness is, not what the human is. The human is deep, unfathomable, same than the cockroach, but the point is not just perceive the human, is conciousness perceiving itself

They say that perceived reality is an illusion, but it seems that they don't realize that whatever it is, it is infinite. Its depth is unfathomable. you can keep diving into it infinitely.

Do you think that God is less God in a cockroach than in a human? Is he less self-aware? How can God not be aware of itself? If it's so, what is god?

Everything depends of how you look at it. For me, the experience of an orangutan in the wild in the Borneo jungle is higher than 99.99999% of humans, since it is clean, direct and open. Humans have more processing power, but it is almost entirely focused on the social matrix, which is basically a madness necessary for the evolution of the species, which only brings misery to the individual and keeps him mired in a very unpleasant state. I would say that the consciousness of a cockroach is clearer than that of an average human, at least is focused in the now.

Then they exist, as pure imagination.

It is a personal vision, but what I have learned in this life is that if you avoid a challenge, it pursues you relentlessly and multiplies in difficulty. Escaping is never the solution, this life is about fighting back

The only possibility of suicide that I consider legitimate is the case of a terminal illness that places a burden on you and other people. There you have to be brave and speed up the process. In any other case, I see it absolutely wrong. You have to fight while you can.

That's no my way. I have never adapted nor will I adapt to anything organized, to any system, teaching, ancient practice, it is absolutely impossible. My path is different, and it is absolutely clear and without the slightest doubt, which has its advantages, and disadvantages. Of course, I don't claim that it's the only possible path, others totally different are absolutely legit , but for other people. Each person has very different structures, then it's nonsense trying to homogenize spirituality or anything else

Maybe you don't understand what is sought with drug use. There are people who seek the dissolution of barriers very seriously, they perceive it as what they have to do in this life. So, practicing meditation for several hours each day, you perceive insurmountable barriers, energetic walls of your structure, and you perceive that there are substances that weaken them, so you use them and that's it. It is not about seeking bliss or well-being, it is about seeking the breaking down of barriers, a step that is perceived as absolutely necessary, the same as other people have perceived art, war, or anything else as necessary. It is a push of life, not a personal choice

You speak from unfounded prejudice. The use of substances for evasion is not the same as for deepening and dissolving. One person is not the same as another, one circumstance or another. For example, Ram Dass, a writer of spirituality of the highest level, was a defender of the use of LSD, mystics have used natural psychedelics since human beings have existed. at a given moment external and internal are the same. We all depend on the "external", without food you die. Is that disempowering? Without an open mind, spirituality becomes religion.

Be careful, maybe you will become a gossiping brother-in-law who is scandalized by non-normative people 😅. I understand that for you things must be exactly in a way, the right clothes, the right job, maybe go to church on Sundays, etc, but there is another option: go beyond the appearance and focus on the essence

@Shodburrito You can polish your mind with meditation until it is completely quiet, even to absolute emptiness, and by doing this, in some cases reality opens up and its absolute essence is revealed. This is not something thinkable, nor even rememberable, it is what manifests itself when you transcend the relative

It is impossible to remember the absolute because memories are relative, but a memory can facilitate new openings. the absolute is without mind, that is the problem, the door without a door, since you are the door. It becomes increasingly clear to me that the psyche must be polished in a very fine, gradual way, with many hours of meditation each day, to tame the tiger so that it knows how to move away at will. The psyche is a tenacious beast, it's like the Alien 8 larva that sticks to your face, you're not going to forcibly remove it, it has to be little by little, day by day, minute by minute