Breakingthewall

It's not personal at all, It's just showing falsehood, not because I feel superior, but because it's deeply toxic. I try to avoid it, but it's stronger than me. James has a one-year-old son, according to what he said. Do you think it's good that he thinks he's neo? It's all empty narcissism, self-validation by denying others. He's an aggressive vampire who feeds on denying others, and that's all his "enlightenment" is. About what you said that I get personal and triggered in some conversations, it's true and I should stop doing it , it's stupid, but the james case is different, it's not personal, it's helping him because he's in a big trap

Look at this. Then, you were dreaming, but look, there is not you, so the you who doesn't exist was dreaming. And what is a dream? It's just a mirror where you see yourself (who doesn't exist) , but it's really nothing, because it's reflecting you who are nothing. I think it's more credible the Aztec religion, or even the Greek with all the horny gods son of a bitches . What is that strange nihilism? Why anyone would need to believe that?

Who could be? I think it's Chatgpt with some human edition. Those símbols like the 🪞, etc , the spaces, seems IA. Anyway, the content is pure negative neo advaita without the slightest deviation. It's like a fundamentalist religion.

The human being is a totally different structure of reality than what life has been for millions of years. The difference lies in that in humans, another level of existence emerges : the mind. Humans are hive beings, and as individuals, they are guests of the collective mind, which they feed with their processing power. Any other living being would need tens of thousands of years for even the slightest change, since they were tied to genes. The mind has broken free from the gene. It is a living being free of matter that evolves literally billions of times faster than life tied to genes. Naturally, this is traumatic, alienating, and unstable, until you perceive that you are precisely that: the movement. Not someone within it, not a witness of it, not its creator. You are it. The flow itself, without center, without resistance, endlessly becoming.

Great that you appreciate, I respect your instinct I don't know, I think that the illusion is the perception of a center, but reality is just real.

It's a phase, impossible to avoid. The only solution is to follow the flow, which now means moving toward true openness. We are part of the flow and the flow itself. Life can be seen as suffering if you see it as a static point, but if you perceive it as flow, it is an exciting movement, full of life

This doesn't mean that a current individual is "worse" than a tribal individual, but rather that they are in a phase of development that seems to be the goal, but they are still in embryo. The problem is that the next step is very difficult to understand; it lies on terrain that almost no one will understand because it seems like a regression to religion, when in fact it is the final step of human development. First the tribe, direct life, then civilization with the external authority of religion as structural support, now technological civilization with the other as its ontological basis. But this is not the end; the level of suffering becomes increasingly evident. It is not the terrible suffering of war, but rather a dull, constant, and widespread suffering that pushes us to the final step: the opening to reality.

In the past, there were also closed structures, but they were more explicit, archetypal, and embodied: family, religion, tribe, duty. These were external structures that shaped the individual, but did not require a sophisticated psychological self-image. Suffering was direct, vital, evident: hunger, punishment, humiliation, slavery. But the subject was not divided into self-observing psychological layers; there was no alienated internal structure pretending to be free while living according to social reflection. Today, however, the closure is internal, invisible, and voluntary. The subject believes itself free, self-defines, self-corrects, and ceaselessly constructs itself. It lives for its image, for its validation. It is a profound subjective alienation, harder to detect than the whip. It suffers in silence, without knowing why, and without the possibility of rebellion, because it does not see the oppressor: the oppressor is its entire structure.

Yes, but we're talking about constant psychological suffering, not the specific suffering caused by a cause that compels you to resolve it. Permanent suffering is fundamentally the same, but it's very difficult to identify the cause because the cause is your structure. That is, suffering is an essential vibration of who you are and is constant 24/7, even if you don't always notice it. It's quite dramatic, but this is how most of humanity lives. The cause of psychological suffering doesn't have to be severe trauma; it's a closed psychological structure. Severe trauma closes, but it's not the only cause. Nowadays, we tend toward functional structures, with minimal trauma but in need of validation, totally oriented toward the social as the supreme value. Partner, friends, place in society. This seems perfectly logical, but it's closed. You reflect on others but aren't open to your true nature. You constantly operate from a place of lack. And the most problematic thing is that there doesn't seem to be any problem. It's the ideal world, but enclosed in a capsule, so no one sees the mammoth in the room, and they believe the most logical hypothesis: you're generating suffering by thinking incorrectly. Learn to think correctly, and there will be no suffering. This is blindness to a level that is crazy. People today have more underlying mental suffering than a galley slave in the 15th century (just an exaggeration, but maybe not so) because are disconnected, being disconnected is being dead in life occurs when you shut down, when you stop living directly and create a bubble of self-image that is the inevitable garment of life in today's society. No one is spared, and the most paradoxical thing is that the best adapted and successful are the most alienated and hopeless, but are the example that everyone would like to be

The sense of self is inevitable, it's how the reality is constructed now. It's not an illusion, it's a kind of perspective that is the manifestation of reality now. You can collapse the self and realize the reality directly, without the filter of duality, not perceiving anything but being it directly, but even so the self is registering. The self is doing a map in background always. Because the self wants to be transparent to allow direct vision then it need a map to don't get confused. Anyway, no map works, better don't try that, everything is very confusing from the mind

Sorry I didn't want to say that your vision is lie, I told you a mess without meaning. What I wanted to say is that it's not matter about purification or getting clean, it's about real openess to what reality is, then there are no maps, nothing is granted, nothing can be believed. If you have a powerful vision, absolutely true, your heart is absolutely open and you feel the flow of reality, you think: that's everything, but then you are closed and you start thinking, trying to make an ontology, and everything get confusing. Better don't get stuck in anything.

The point is: is the perception real or an illusion. I mean what is perceived . In my opinion it's absolutely real. Some days ago if someone would tell me: no, it's an illusion. I would think, he's totally deceived. But now I will try to think...let's imagine if he's right and I'm wrong.

I don't think so, Better don't take anything for granted, don't hold back on any perspective, don't believe in anything. It' like no one has ever opened the heart of reality because only you can do it. The words of others are nothing, only confusion. I am the only one who is What we do here is reflecting, with the help of others, to contrast our points of view by seeing them reflected in others. It's strange, alienating, but we are human; we need to communicate, to connect.

Even if your structure is made of consciousness, it's an structure. I mean, someone wants stop suffering. He doesn't mind if reality is conciousness, just stop being scared, disconnected, anxious. Then he should see his structure, understand what he is as structure, if the foundation is conciousness ok, but the suffering is there

Yes but what I mean is, from the perspective: reality is an illusion that conciousness is creating, then any realization about nothingness, fullness, anything, would be just an image that conciousness creates. It's a weird perspective . Those who say: reality is an illusion, only god is real, how they know that god is not another illusion?

A rock or a rose are different structures, a human another. "Thinking" is the same as a rock eroding or creating new molecular bonds due to pressure or whatever it does. Thinking is a manifestation of what you are. If you were terrified in Auschwitz, later you don't perpetuate it with thoughts; it's in your cells. You are that energetic structure that reality has shaped. If you think you are the one who perpetuates it, you are referring to the ego, and the ego is the product, not the producer. The point is that if your structure is closed, disconnected, is going to vibrate anxious, and this vibration is the thoughts. If you want stop suffering you have to open yourself as an structure, and it's not achieved stopping the thoughts, that's a kind of mental violence that just hide the depth of the closure

But the question would be? Those visions are real or are just visions created by the self? Illusions, maya I mean, are subjective visions. An advaita would tell: there are infinite shapes that conciousness could take, those are some, just illusions. The reality is conciousness, nothing else. Who's right? I can't say for sure, maybe tomorrow I realize that the advaitas are right. I'd say that no but who knows

One day I was walking in the street and I saw that reality was absolute open in front me, absolutely transparent, limitless. and was totally clear to me that I was one with it and it was total and without bottom, and was empty but was presence. Another day I took a toke of weed and in a moment reality opens and was full of life, like a fire of absolute power where you want be burned, then there was no mind just the life, and was absolutely full , another day another thing, sometimes again one, or the other. So I was thinking, what is real? Then I realized that all are real because they are facets of the unlimited.

Diferent visions in different moments. I was thinking, then the reality is conciousness? Or it's openenss? Is it the same or different? Is conciousness just the presence of the reality, then when the people say that god is pure conciousness means that conciousness is what reality is? Then I remembered what I saw, and I realized that there is not a facet of the reality, not a single thing that can define the reality. Because any definition comes from the form, then all the visions are true, not only one is true

Lie, Chatgpt writes very good, but he's wrong, Yes, there is only this moment, but your angle of perception of yourself can vary enormously. there is openness waiting for you, clarity, glory, and eternal existence. I know you need to believe you've reached the top of the top, the tip of the pyramid, the maximum of the maximum. You've been like this for years, but you're wrong. This game is much deeper than it seems. First, you've never opened yourself to the total. In fact, you'd prefer that it weren't possible so that there's nothing higher than your perception. Your ego is such that you'd choose being the king of misery over an apprentice of glory. Ego, ego, and ego. Exactly what you criticize Leo for is what could be said about you. This is usually the case with narcissists: crazy projection. Well, if you ever want reality, you know, bow your head and stop believing yourself to be Jesus Christ Chatgpt in a competition of enlightenment. Just share, have conversations, learn, go deep, be humble. In short, stop being a narc, would be better for you and for everyone around you.

just my vision now, maybe I change it if I go deeper: If you open your perception completely, you realize that you are the flow of reality, flowing absolutely perfectly. It's not that you become more powerful, but rather that you disappear as self and you are the flow. Then you realize that the flow is absolute will and intelligence. You cannot modify the flow because you are the flow. That is, you are not outside observing the flow and deciding how it should be. It's something that works on infinite levels and is exactly perfect in its flow because it is. If you were to think: Hmm, I should change this. That very thought would be part of the flow. There is only the flow. Existence is not the result of the flow; it is the flow, it's absolutely direct. It's as if it were an infinite mechanism in perpetual motion, flowing over itself in perfect synchrony. The fact that it's unlimited means that every minimal movement has an infinite echo. Nothing that isn't absolutely synchronized happens because "happening" means relative movement, and relative is relative to the whole. Therefore, the highest "level of consciousness" that this mystic we're talking about can access is to disappear completely and become one with the flow, without desire or direction, because any desire means separation. Just apparent separation because that desire is the flow, nothing could be separated, but closes your perception

Well, it can be said that reality is consciousness, or that consciousness is reality. I'm not saying otherwise; what I'm saying is that the idea that reality is consciousness leads to a misunderstanding. First, we would have to completely deconstruct "consciousness," reaching the conclusion that what we call consciousness is reality structured from a self-reflective center that "perceives." But "perceiving" is the act of grasping the exterior from a center, and this is the misunderstanding. But the material from which perception is made is pure reality. There is no difference between perception and reality in substance, only in form, since perception implies two. I'm not saying anything against the ontology that affirms that reality = consciousness, except that it needs to be explained thoroughly. The point is not defining the reality but finding a mental conceptual structure that allows openess. I think it's a fascinating matter, it's a mistake that people get defensive if you argue instead taking the opportunity to develop their frame and get deeper, we are constructing not defending a position, that's why we like talking, to grow together

It's impossible because the flow of reality is God, not you, the apparent center. The apparent center or self is a stable structure that occurs in reality, creating the duality of subject and object, of a splitting of reality. So, everything that happens, down to the last quantum vibration in a neuronal synapse, is reality being, it's the will of reality. It's not that reality says, "I'm going to create that synapse." It's that synapse that is the will and intelligence of reality, directly. It's God. God isn't behind the scenes; it is exactly what it is. So, you, as self, are a structure of reality that wants to levitate your car keys with your mind, and that's exactly what the flow of reality is. If you collapse the self, you become totally the flow, and the flow of reality has no will independent of the flow. Its will is the flow; it's absolutely direct; the separation is zero. And everything that moves do in relation with the whole in motion, everything is synchronized perfectly, with zero deviation, the flow of existence is a whole moving relatively to itself in absolute perfection, without the minimum slightly deviation, because anything that is not perfect synchroniced simply isn't. Movement is relative to itself, then the absolute intelligence arises by the fact of the inevitable perfection, it is the inevitable perfection

Imo the thing is very simple, suffering arises because you are disconnected from yourself, from the truth, your real being, then you feel empty, and you try to fulfill that emptiness with anything, pleasure, ego, anything. As it's impossible from you anxious vibration arises in the form of thoughts. You are absolutely alienated, because the environment demanded it, was impossible another option. The only solution is be connected, open to your true nature, but you have built a psychological structure from childhood that closes you in a bubble, then you have to break it, but it isn't simple because you built that structure because if was the most optimal possible. You are the flow of reality flowing and you shape yourself in the best way possible. Then, changing that structure is not a simple game at all, you need to open yourself to the real power of the reality and flow intuitively, change the information that is print in your cells. Then if you believe that it's something so simple as changing your mental activity, you won't break the surface , and do it is needed. The work is absolutely serious, you have to be a pioneer, absolutely determined to go beyond everything.

@Natasha Tori Maru Imagine you're a woman who comes from a family of successful professionals, very focused on social status. During your childhood, your relationship with your parents was acceptable; they were demanding but not bad people. From childhood, you internalized that you should be accepted, fulfill your role, not be less than your siblings. Love? Well, I guess so, some. They do their best. You managed to live up to expectations, found a partner, a job as a lawyer, and had children. None of this really interested you much; the basis of your movement was not to be left behind. Do you love your children? Well, you think so. You try the best for them, although dealing with them was always tense. And your husband? Do you know him? You think so. He's a good person, he doesn't treat you badly. Everything is so strange, alienating. Sometimes you daydream about your family dying, and you immediately feel enormously guilty. Besides, what would you do? Alone, in middle age, sad. Sadness. Everything is strange, alien. You start having obsessive thoughts about your health and that of your children. You don't understand why, you don't understand anything. You go to the psychologist, you explain things, it helps you let go, but the sadness continues, and old age and death are right in front of you. Then, are your thoughts the cause of your suffering, or a consequence of an energetic structure built in a whole life in contact with an environment that creates those structures? It's real, built in decades, layers and layers of structure. You must be, let's say determinate and smart to penetrate to the bottom and destroy it. Maybe you should be someone determined to conquer the reality. Unfortunately, the most probably is that woman wont be that , but there are medicines, and some videos about self help to have some illusion that you are creating your suffering, and if you stop thinking everything would be wonderful