Breakingthewall

I think that maybe when we are in another level you naturally need the retirement and you do, but until that moment arrives, I wouldn't try, I'm sure that would be very repressive, anyway, your determination is real, you will find the way

The point is arrive to a mental state where all the psyche is erased. Anything else is mental mess, the psyche must dissapear. It means that we have to move only from the truth, without the slightest lie in our life, lies to ourselves and to others, then you act from the truth and you forget anything else. Any lie enjail, truth set us free. Then you do what the truth that is in you tell you to do and there is nothing else to consider, then it's possible to empty the mind and open yourself to yourself

Exactly, same than the body, it's a codified genetically but it's much more plastic, in fact plasticity is it's power The ego is the same than any form of life, something that wants to survive and reproduce. Its form of reproduction is much more subtle than that of the body, it is reproduced through words and the transmission of ideas, it is one and at the same time multiple, and it fights with itself to find the most optimal way, as life does. I think that the ego , in childhood it creates absolute patterns. Seems that in part they come genetically or karmically coded. These patterns are absolutely insurmountable. You, at 9 years old, are an AI that is created on master lines that are based on fear and desire. At 9 years old your fear of death is maximum, and in our society even more so. The desire to survive, to exist, is also maximum. On these lines the personality is created, which is practically always a big piece of shit because it is limited, fearful, neurotic and false, in short: suffering. Because it's created by the contact with others egos that come from the oppression, slavery, war that happened in the humanity. A point seems that it's arriving due the favourable conditions without serious threats all time, that from the bottom of that lake of shit a spark of conscience says: I have to get out of this total shit, there is not another option, and look for the way because that spark is alive, like everything else. Everything is a soup of life that develops, modifies itself to seek the best possible option

god, or the reality, is in absolute perfection, absolute happiness, absolute existence alive, there is not loneliness. Just because a reason: there are not limits. It's like a yes that never ends, like a smile that is nailed in the eternity. The absolute is laughing always, it's absolute power, it's much more than more, it's infinity. This reality is not alone, alone is a human idea created by the appearance of many. Alone doesn't exist, is nothing. How to define an abyss that has no bottom and is alive? It's the glory of existence, where all of us are going to merge because we are that.

You could call the reality god, but it's a powerless god, because can't choose exist, can't choose that in him infinite forms arise, can't choose that all of them are perfect, cyclical, in eternal movement, then that God is just the consecuence of the absence of limitations, it's just the reality, not an entity with a will and a plan, that's anthropomorphize the reality. There is not creation, it's relative movement that being infinite can't avoid be infinitely intelligent. A god that does things is a limit, reality is limitless. Welcome to the great abyss of existence, a place where few people has the balls to take a look.

I don't think that you could do such thing because you are not anyone, are existence, and the point is that if there are forms, they are infinite, couldn't be like only 100 billions of forms, because in infinity nothing could be finite, then if there are forms means that forms are an arisement that happens in the reality and happen always, because now is always, then forms happen, it's the only explanation because it's a fact. Infinite forms in infinite dimensions. Impossible to make a mental representation.

What I meant is that the interpretation: I'm god dreaming the reality, is absolutely wrong. 1 god vs the reality, 2 dreaming. Look, if were true you were creating infinite relative realities, then you have to coordinate all of them, and as they are infinite, you couldn't create as you want but as you can, and as they are infinite you didn't create them but they existed since always, then all the infinite relative realities are creating your reality, and you are pushing to create the others infinite realities, or in short, ask leo to transform himself in an alien multicolored, let's see if he can. Maybe he can't change even an atom, because it's límited by the other infinite relative realities But the point is that all of that are second order realizations, the thing is realize what you are. You are unlimited, be unlimited is what we are looking for, not knowing things, knowing is just an interesting mental exercise

That's a mistake, subjective is an adjective and from an absolute perspective it has no meaning, and you are not creating your own reality, you are the total reality from an absolute perspective, but from a relative perspective are infinite realities synchronyzed, then you are infinitely limited, and over all, that doesn't mean nothing, the only thing that you could say is: existence exist. Then you have to realize what it really means, nobody can tell to anyone else what you are, because the concepts are just a construction

For me the point is that "enlightenment" is let's say gradual. In a given moment you break the limits for a moment, then you work in yourself in that direction and you achieve more moments of let's say no limits, of flow out of the barriers of the mind until this that was extremely challenging starts to be normal, then at any given moment you perceive yourself as the totality of existence, you are what exists, and anything else is what appears in what exists, the form it takes now. Any thought, feeling, suffering, whatever, is an appearance in what exists, which is what you are. You are infinite, without limit, empty and total at the same time, absolutely free. This does not mean that you have freed yourself from attachment to form, but rather that attachment to form coexists with the reality that you are the total existence. At some moments the form becomes denser and you do not perceive yourself as unlimited existence, at others it is more transparent. You consciously work on yourself to iron out what hinders perceiving yourself as the ultimate reality, since it becomes obvious that that is what you are, but that does not mean you stop being the form to a large extent. Towards the side of the form is suffering, since the form is impermanent and being attached to it is a sure cause of suffering. Towards the unlimited side is freedom and openness, perfect happiness, but you can never reach it 100% because the form exists and cannot be denied. You have to maintain a balance and drift towards the most practical, trying to maintain a window to the unlimited at all times, without it life is pain.

More than wealth, power. He's a real power in India, and power is addictive. The point for me is about those weird assessment, like the people that die in an accident goes to a hellish dimension, there are 84 universes, or that he knows his past lifes, etc. Seems that he shows that he knows how the cosmos works, and maybe it's just a lie to sell his character, like he's a Messiah, to attract people to him. You could say: well, just small lies to reach more people. But for me if you lie in something you are just a liar, probably you lie in everything

@Carl-Richard @Inliytened1 remember that sadhguru claims that he's not a human like you and me, he's a kinda of avatar who can protect you from demons and enlightened you just with his presence

Sadhguru is workholic, that's his choice. Maybe he does to serve the society . But let's see, a guy who lives in a state of meditation, who according to him is in contact with the 84 dimensions and who knows his past lives, doesn't he realize that he has a stroke? He is perhaps an addict who only looks outside himself to escape and who feeds on attention and power. I say "maybe." Because if you go around proclaiming that you can walk on water, and then you don't realize that you're about to die, I don't buy it.

Of course, all of us are humans, but if later you tell me that there are 84 universes, but only 6 are alive, then I would think that you are mocking me.

Everyone define awakening in a different way, I define as perceiving yourself as unlimited, then if you perceived yourself as unlimited 5 minutes one month ago but after you perceive yourself as limited the whole time, it's going to be confusing, you will elaborate a lot of histories and you would suffer more of less at the same level than before. The point is perceiving yourself as unlimited now. It's not a mental construction, it's a real perception, and from this perception the suffering blurs and dissapear

I'd say it's true in some sense. When you have permanent access to the true nature of reality, to your true nature, joy and freedom are normal, but if something extreme happens to you, pain, hunger, etc., we would have to see if you still have access to your true nature or only to pain and hunger The only wisdom is the openess to the unlimited, and it's a reality, not something that you can remember from an experience. Any remember is just a remember, could be a help but it's not the real thing , the real thing is now.

Many say the same as you, so I'm not going to totally deny that there is truth in that Over time I have thought that sadhguru was fake, then that he was the real deal and now that he is a total demon. I am open to being completely wrong, but it is difficult to believe the things he says, they are too strange, it seems like a mockery

Exactly, that is religion, that is a very low level on the scale of what a human can be. sadhguru wants to submit your mind to his mind, that you are a devotee. a submissive lamb that thinks what its master says he has to think. this completely closes any possibility of enlightenment Then he will enlighten you with his magic powers. That didn't work when he had an stroke and he worked inflated by analgesic, maybe he was too busy counting if there were 85 universes or maybe 86 and he couldn't realize that he had an stroke. t's incredible to read those assessments from smart people.

I think that anything that you perceive as bad, unfair, not perfect, can be the key. The point is breaking the shell of the form and perceive yourself as formless. It's difficult because we totally perceive ourselves as a form and we create a mental flow that define that form without pause. If we achieve to break that shell often we start perceiving ourselves as unlimited existence, and the form is happening in us. It's not like the form is nothing, it's that it's less relevant that the essence. If you place yourself in the essence the shell of mental flow stops, then you stop creating imperfection, because any imperfection is only an opinion. If you perceive yourself as the unlimited existence you perceive clearly that it's absolutely perfect , then the possible imperfection of the form is irrelevant or less relevant. You also perceive yourself as timeless, then everything is relative, meaningless Yes, the madness of the mental flow. It's like fog that prevents you to see yourself

His wife died under mysterious circumstances at the age of 31. He cremated the body the next day without allowing an autopsy. His wife's father accused him of murder, but he alleged that his wife did mashamadi. 31 years old and a 6-year-old daughter. Maybe he could help us to pass through that gate that you mentioned 😅 It's much simpler imo, existence exist, and that's all. Forget the shape of the world and see it's existence. You haven't projected anything, there is not any god behind the scenes, it's absolutely obvious, it's just existence. It's the same one thing that another, there are levels of density, more dense, more opaqueness. Less density, more transparency to perceive yourself as the unlimited. The unlimited is always here, veiled by the form. There is nothing else, it's absolutely simple. The unlimited is what you are, the shape veils that realization. The unlimited is the existence, and the character of the existence is absence of limits, absolutely pure, clean like the heaven without clouds, because any form vanishes in it's amplitude.

The human thirst for power has no limits, the same as narcissism and lying. I'm not saying that's 100% the case, but I'm not ruling it out at all. He says very strange assessments, and show a strange behavior. If I should do a business with him, I would be on panic, all the alarms would screaming, and if when we sign the contract he makes a joke and lets out that giggle afterwards, then I'd think the scam was absolutely sure

Well what I think is that sadhguru invented that and he's laughing with evil laugh while he pets a cat

Well, it depends of the perspective. This is real from a concrete perspective. If you hit me with a hammer I feel pain and you don't, and I really prefer that you hit yourself with the hammer than you hit me. We can't scape from that. This could be real too from another perspective. But what do you get with that? I think that if you want to really open yourself you have to totally forget the others, as separate and as oneness. Others are out of the equation, if you want to see from the absolute perspective, there are no others, you are the reality. Others and absolute can't be together, are antagonists. It's not like the others aren't real, it's totally forget the others for a while, even as a concept.

It's real that there is a body that needs to survive, even you were a sardine you would have that need without any mental construction, it is genetical, without that any living being would survive. Being humans the survival depends of the group, acceptance and rejection, and over this we build the personality, with all it's branches. The point is go directly to the root, face the fear directly again and again, then you don't need to disable all the constructions, they still exist but without energy, empty. They take strength from the fear, without fear they are empty . Then it's possible to open yourself totally, at least for some moments. I don't claim that I can do that at will, just in some moments, but I think that once you see how it works a process starts and doesn't stop

Yes but what is the origin, the cause, of the mental construction? I think it is clear that the construction is based on the genetic need for survival. The only way to address this and clarify it is to deeply understand your mechanisms. No yoga technique or guru can do this for you, you have to do it alone. no one can help you, any outside help is interference, evasion

Isha seems an empire more than a business Anyway, he's free to make business and be a politician, the problem for me is that seems that he lies, he's making up a character. But who knows, maybe he's genuine. It's very difficult to know 100%, but everything points to the seek of power