Breakingthewall

The problem with relationships is that they are limiting because they are almost always going to be with someone who is limited, and that someone wants you to be limited. So in your life, in your reality, there is a limiting factor that reduces your sovereignty, and this is incompatible, or an hindrance ,with spiritual awakening. If you have a partner who is not limited or limits you at all, then there is no problem

Regarding levels of consciousness, it would be said that less is more. sadhguru knows many things and is aware of much, but a fetus creates itself from a subatomic level, coordinating infinite dimensions, being. everything sadhguru knows is a joke compared to what a leaf knows, which is the entire universe. sadhguru is the tip of the iceberg, a speck of dust is the entire iceberg. The human mind is an illusion, a pale reflection, it means nothing. There is only one level of consciousness, the total level, Anything else are illusions

Absolutely. Something incredible happened to me recently in that regard. In my mind there was a sadness, an anger and a reproach to life. Something extremely negative happened to me with my family, something that was always with me in the background, something that was part of me absolutely always. Suddenly, it disappeared. It went away. It is not there, it does not exist, it does not vibrate, it does not appear, it has disintegrated. I'm free from my fucking disgusting karma

@Javfly33 if you ask for advice, I would say: forget the women, go for the spiritual 100%, then, when it's done, and that's not so far, go for the women and fuck them all. Or find your soul mate, or anything that it's your destiny

Maybe you should reconsider what do you like.

I wish but no, I meant "you". Posses your soul as they where a demon 😅

@caspex focus in why it's important if the others are real of not. Where is the difference, who makes the difference, what is the difference. Is there any difference? Before thinking that the others aren't real, you though they were real. What changed? Just your thought about it. What exactly are your thoughts about it? Are them the reality? Or are just thoughts? Means something? Or only Shiva means something? If is Shiva that means something, forget your thoughts and realize Shiva again.

The thing is absolutely obvious: you are a man and you need sex with women. This does not mean that sex is something basic biological despicable thing that you do as a necessity, but rather that the connection, the liberation of your masculinity in contact with the feminine, the flow as a man, is something you need and that's it. congratulations, you are a healthy guy. Now comes the problem: no one is going to bring them to your house. Then the problem 2 arrives: women wants something, always. They want you 😅 So, the thing is a mess, but who said that should be easy?

A mind is something relative to its content. What is a mind without the things that imagine? What is imagining? An action to do something. What is an action ? The problem about realizing the absolute is exactly this, that is not relative, is total. Anything you define is not, it's just absolute expansion, the totality without limits. In the very moment that you add anything, it's relative. Something that is moving, doing anything, wanting, creating, dreaming, hidden, is relative to anything else, and therefore it's limited. Even something that love itself is relative to itself, the absolute is absolute, impossible to think or remember, it's where the thoughts happen, has no will because the will is relative to something and limited to something, can't change because any change is in comparison to anything else, then relative.

Not just anthropomorphism, it's a root issue. Here it is said: "you are god creating reality." absolutely wrong. God, so to speak, is the reality, and he is not creating or imagining or doing anything, for the unavoidable reason that it is total infinity. Anything you do, dream, imagine, is relative, is within the absolute. The absolute does not explore itself since if it did it would have an intention, and any intention is relative. The absolute is total, that's it, there is no more. Anything you say is relative, it is within the absolute. The god you speak of is relative, there may be a cosmic entity that creates dimensions, but it is finite, relative. It's the same as an ant from absolute pov.

Then the absolute is improving and doing things like exploring, because there is nothing else to do. All of that are relative things. The absolute can't improve, can't do nothing, can't be more than it is, because it's total. That's why it's so difficult to realize the absolute, because it's not relative 😅

that is wrong. Nobody deceives anyone, nobody wants to do things like live experiences, if someone wanted to do those things, they would be someone relative, because someone absolute does not want to do absolutely anything, since if he wanted to do things, he would be relative to those things he want to do.

Sure, but the point is realize the absolute. It's a very twisted thing, a weird process difficult to explain, difficult to understand, you have to sharp your mind as much as you can. For me nothing else is more interesting, not far.

I have said it in all the previous messages quite clearly, although you have described it as mumbo jumbo. then you complain if they suggest you crush your fingers. well, just crush one finger. What I mean is that on a relative level there is movement, as is obvious, and you cannot do anything other than move, and that on a relative level it seems that being human you have to equalize your mental vibration in such a way that the absolute manifests itself in everything, since otherwise life sucks. All this is relative, at an absolute level it doesn't matter, it is a movement between infinite movements, that is, nothing, but being that movement, you move and that's it.

Time is relative, then the relative path. You can say that about nothing is happening etc, but relatively something is happening. You can smash all your fingers with a hammer and say that nothing is happening if you want Yes, an illusion from the absolute perspective. It's like saying that in hunger is an illusion, because it's relative, then why to eat, if it's another illusion. Illusion is the meaning, but the existence is absolute. You exist, you are a relative movement, both are true. The relative movement means nothing, but can't stop, then move, and that's it. An appearance is moving apparently, if you prefer . From an absolute perspective, nothing happens, but we are the relative movement. This conversation is relative movement. The point here, the spiritual work, is recognize the relative and realize the absolute. Why? For the same reason that anything else happens, because it's happening, can't stop

Everything is both, appearance is the form, reality is the essence then just trascending the form. The form is real too, as an appearance. intricate and infinitely interconnected. It is not something, let's say despicable, it is simply meaningless, without any ultimate meaning except that it exists, but this "meaning" is everything, is the absolute. Same , the only significance is that they exist. As humans, if we don't understand the reality we are lost in the form and we suffer, in more or less extent. The understanding is just a mean to solve a labyrinth, ultimately understanding is relative, something relative to the human condition to clarify a mess. When the mess is clarified, the absolute is obvious. Seems that the intelligence tends in that direction, same than tends to evolution or creation of complex molecules or anything else. Relative movements that happens inevitably. Very beautiful if you appreciate them, but nothing else. Yeah, the movement has to move, the things have to happen, the will has to follow a path, the flow has to flow, then as much as you can be one with the movement, better, in the sense of less suffering and more beauty. Seems that human condition is distorted by default and has to equalize

Because anything cyclical is finite, and something finite in comparison with infinity is zero. Then, it's something apparent, but ultimately not real. For example your experience, seems something concrete and real, but if there are others infinite experiences, your experience reveals as empty, it's nothing in the general scheme, absolutely zero. Then, if the absolute encompass infinite changes, it's immutable, because every one of that changes are nothing, just appearances. Cause and effect, and conciousness that acts are relative. Are events that happens in the absolute, and as are unlimited they doesn't mean nothing. The point of the absolute is that nothing means nothing, then a will that points to nothing is nothing, just an appearance. At the end only the absolute is real, because in the case of infinity, everything is infinite, finitude is an illusion, an appearance, then you transcend the appearance and realize the absolute, that is the only reality. The ego absolutely hates it, that's why it's very difficult to realize.

Because if this god "wants" something, like having adventures, it's a god with bias, with desire, it's "someone", then the eternity is absolute existential horror. But it's impossible, The absolute isn't someone, doesn't want things , otherwise it would be relative, it's obvious. Because the absolute contains infinite changes, then it's immutable, it's impossible to understand the infinity, you could think: well, infinity means that never ends, then it's increasing in volume. Increasing from what point? If it never have begun....the point is that all changes are nothing because are infinite. Appearances. The point is realizing the absolute, then realize the unreality of the appearance. It's real because it's the absolute, but as appearance are like holograms, one is the same than another, a proton is the same than a universe. Yeah because God doesn't want nothing, god exists, it's the reality, it's inevitable. Then god doesn't get bored, because it's nothing personal who can be bored, or fun. Time is inside the absolute, like everything else. The absolute is outside of time, of change and everything else, it's just absolute. The absolute is not experiencing nothing, experience happens inside the absolute, as everything else. It's not like a head who changes vision, it's the whole thing. It seems that absolute reality inherently entails infinite relative aspects. It is an inevitable consequence, and everything relative is inevitably cyclical, and inevitably interconnected infinitely an infinitely intelligent and therefore perfect. perfect and existing are synonyms. Therefore the immutable absolute contains infinite cycles that begin and end within each other to infinity in all directions and dimensions, but all of them are just images, all of them are really the absolute. This is a natural phenomenon, not an entity that does things, it is something inevitable, not a deliberate creation for a reason. It's impossible that the absolute doesn't contain infinite relative povs just because it's absolute.

I don't think that an eternal god who desires things, like living a human adventure or whatever, is possible even as an idea. He would have already lived infinite human adventures. If that god acts for "fun", he would be immersed in the absolute horror of eternal existence, after infinite human "adventures", the adventure of a Japanese office worker with suicidal depression number infinite would be equivalent to absolute cosmic horror and that god would only want to commit suicide and nothing else Id say that the thing is totally different : Given the absence of limits, reality is, and is absolute. There is only one reality, the absolute, and it is you and you can realize it right now. Now, given the absence of limits, there are infinite manifestations of that infinite absolute, in infinite directions and dimensions. All of them are the absolute, and all of them, infinite, which is unimaginable, are coordinated in an absolutely perfect way by total intelligence, inevitable since it is a consequence of the infinitude. We can call this god, but it is a god that does not want anything, that does not decide anything, that cannot help being, nor does it want to, it simply unfolds infinitely without beginning or end, which is not understandable by the mind, and here I am typing on a phone, which is a manifestation among infinite manifestations, so it has a meaning equivalent to zero, and an essence equivalent to infinity: the total absolute.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I hope that those men, after a while with you, have not committed suicide due to extreme humiliation. It's hard be a weak man, There is a lot of talk about how men should be vulnerable, not be afraid of being emotionally weak, of our insecurities. No way, if you are like that, you only get dissatisfaction, problems and misery in relationships. Better not to have them until you are a solid man, if you can. but the fact is that the weaker, the more in need of ties.

I mean to be free of trauma, of narcissism, of the need to prove to yourself that you are valid, comparison, of lies, shame, all of that. having managed to be a complete person, which is not easy. I guess that Could be easy if your parents are very competent, that's not the usual

Maybe it's not the right word. I meant an ego that has overcome the challenges that life has put before it, that has managed to find its place in the human machinery without hiding parts of itself. Maybe this is not necessary but it seems to me that it is.

If it's growing, it's because it's still finite. If it's already infinite, how could it grow? You are thinking in the numbers, well, they can expand infinitely right? No, it's you who can follow them infinitely putting one after other, but the numbers are already infinitely expanded. It's not an exact example because the numbers are just a concept, but more or less. You mean, I'm in the number 100, then 101, etc, and I could follow them infinitely. Well, now they aren't infinite, they are just 101, with infinite potential. The real infinity is not that, it's already total, it didn't begin in the one in a given moment and now it's in the 101, it never have begun, it's total always

No, infinite is already expanded infinitely, it's impossible to understand infinite, that's the main point. Absolutely impossible to imagine or making a mental representation, nothing is more alien to the finite mind than infinity. The only thing that we can do Is become infinite, enlightenment. It's very twisted process because the mind has to move out, and even that there are a lot of energetic barriers that prevents it. The absolute is not in movement, even it contains all possible movement . The first time that you realize the absolute it's the most horrible ever, because you realize that you are trapped in the eternity, without the slightest possibility of scape or movement, you are alone, still, immutable, in the eternity. There are not words to describe that horror. But if you face it, you realize one thing: you ve not bottom. In one instant, that perspective changes and you realize that you are absolutely free, and your joy is total. But first you have to realize the essential immutable quality of the absolute

I'd say that no. the infinite cannot grow or increase in understanding, nor go in any direction. This would imply that it goes from one point to another, and that is not the case, it is not increasing, since it has never started, therefore it cannot advance. Everything that advances does so from a starting point, if there is no such point, there is no progress. I would say that all the apparent movement of infinity is inevitable due to the very nature of infinity. Having no limits, it flows on itself without pause, and this flow is apparent existence that is organized in a perfect way given the inevitable infinite intelligence of the infinite, but this is only speculation considering things that are impossible, such as moving forward or wanting something. Infinity is not someone who desires things or plays, it is an inevitable natural phenomenon