Breakingthewall

Exactly, and Caesar sometimes requires you to go to war. Evasion is not an option, if you do, Caesar will send you rowing in galleys.

Then if I'm working 14 h 6x7 is shitty works as I did and I want to do a business to gain enough to be free and work with a lot of calm in something that is a pleasure, as i did, there is nothing that needs to be done? How is it?

Seems that the difference between a criticism or an observation is whether you say it or they say it to you, but anyway, the point of this discussion is that for@gettoefl it is horrible, atrocious, absurd, terrifying, infernal, the act of doing business. Any spiritual person should flee screaming from any sign of business, it is something that Satan promotes while the baby Jesus cries sadly. but that is said while using a phone, how is it possible?

For me awakening is opening yourself to the limitless that you are. When this happens you realize that you are the total existence. This makes your current experience perceived as secondary and the primary thing is to be, to exist. Any concrete experience blurs in the face of unlimited reality, the only thing that does not fade into infinity is your essence: you are. This expands infinitely and it is absolutely obvious that it is eternal. This doesn't change the fact that you have preferences, and it doesn't define reality either. Reality is indefinable since any definition occurs in reality. The reality is, and that's it.

There is not any god except the existence that exists. The observer is part of the experience that arises. The perceptor that perceives is created by the experience. @Sempiternity did good points. And that about reality is a movie implies that there is someone watching the movie, or creating it, and it's not the case, the only thing that you could say about the existence is that exists, anything like movie, dream, etc , is a mistake

Ok, ok, I see your point, so you can criticize me but I can't criticize you. Understood. But dime, what's wrong with doing business? Gettoelf seems to hate it very much, as if it were a horrible sin, and you agree. But they both go to the supermarket, etc., so where is the consistency? It seems strange.

Then stop eating, stop talking with people, and watching all that videos that you watch. It's obvious that you work in the realm of the theory, of the mind. You never opened yourself to the infinity, 90% of people in this forum don't even try to do, just seek relief and evasion

What are you talking about 😱😱. Man....it's so sad. Seems that you are using spirituality to evasion. Stop reading UCM and take 500 ug of LSD, let's see what happens. Most of you are in the realm of the mind, in the concept. Absolutely Lost without hope. At least some here are getting in the real thing, and that's a lot. But please, stop saying those craziness.

That's true. The implications of the absence of limitations is the life and the intelligence, it's you and me. It's incredible, but it is. But in my opinion its incomprehensible, of total depth, it is not something or someone that can be defined, not something that decides, plays, does, it's something that is happening

What are you talking about? Are you crazy? I started working with 20 in shitty works and very fast I decided to fight hard, because i don't want to be a slave. Where is the problem with that? Everything that I did was absolutely aligned with myself. Once I started a business with sail boats an to start I bought a very small boat, and without almost test and without sailing in many years, I put to it the name of my mother who died , to let her to take revemge if I have been wrong and I sailed alone during 9 days in the middle of Atlantic in winter to an island where I sold it for more than double very fast, I had a lot of trouble during the trip but at the end I see: the gods are with me in that business, I can start, and it worked. That's an example ,I did many other things much more challenging than that. Everything that I did was extremely difficult, and without the slightest guarantee, and until now I had success in everything by miracle, I'm in the business n 4. And I'm going to fight when te circumstances are ok for something in another level, let's see. I'm just want to give my best, anything else is shit for me, being dead. I want to live, where is the problem with that? Mysticism is just a way to be really alive, not buried in the grief of the ego, open to the real existence, something that seems that very few people dare to do, stuck in the idea of god. Nobody wants the real thing. The humans are like that. And you are speaking like a kinda of fanatic.

Maybe it's a different way to say the same, but when I touch balls about God, it's because I see totally clear that it's impossible an intention, a will to play or anything else. Reality is infinite, really. In infinity can't be any intention, would be infinite intentions , then mean nothing, god can't be something that does things, it's the reality, and the reality can't help to be infinite, and being infinite means that everything is. It doesn't mean chaos , on contrary, means absolutely harmony, synchronicity, movement to unity, perfection, but not because a will, just because the absence of limits. That about a will is because we are humans and can't see anything without a cause, it's difficult, but the cause and the effects are merged, are both cause and effect, to infinity

An animal doesn't create psychological suffering, a crocodile in the river is not suffering because other crocodiles are better that him, and it's just by the reason that he couldn't get anything doing it. Our psychological suffering is a engine of evolution, all the human kind moves by that, without it we were stuck in the jungle (what sure would be much more pleasant) but life has other plans, wants always more, that's evolution

why you have to choose one thing or another? You could have both, reality is everything, nothing is godly or antigodly, you just have to be integral in everything, then you could do anything.

What are you talking about? Do you use money or not? I wanted what? Like I'm god planning this and then hidden? That's false, it's a mistake, there is no God, I am not god, the reality is infinite, nobody is at control, that about god is a tale for kids that never could dare to look directly the abyss of infinity. There are infinite possibilities, and you are the abyss, nothing has any sense or meaning, reality just is, it's absolutely obvious, the only meaning is the infinite movement. Anything else is just an history, and I could die of hunger and nothing would be different, but as I'm here I choose give my best, just because I like, anything else is bored

Even if he guaranteed me 2 million, I wouldn't go with him to bleed trees. I don't understand where the debate is, being human, money is necessary, we don't hunt our food. Perhaps it would be more beautiful to be a dolphin or an eagle, but that is not the case, so if you have to dedicate time to material things, it is best to be the one who makes the decisions, and always have the possibility of singing: bingo! That way everything is much more fun.

What do you mean? I have to work, there is not another option. If I had 2 million in my bank I wouldn't work, I would do anything else, but I ve not that money then I must work and if I would have to go to a place where someone tells me what to do I would hate him so much that I would get sick and fired, then there is only one possibility to me and this possibility demands energy

I didn't say only, I said that survival matter is essential

Money is something that all of us use continuously, without money you are dead, money is the language of the society. Without money the only language would be the violence. The money is a representation of your work, of your energy, of your push to move the humanity.

Are you serious? Don't you realize what society is giving you? Without the accumulated work of millions, you would die in a few days, you would be a naked larva. You are not an individual, you are a cog in a machine. Maybe it makes you happy to think that you are free, while you buy your food in a supermarket, but you are not, you are a being fed by others, clothed, sheltered. You are a domestic animal, in the jungle you would last hours. So, since it is inevitable to be a cog, it is much better to decide your position. I am not speaking hypothetically, I have been in the battle for a long time, and it has always been a purely intuitive and high-risk path, as befits any living being Where is the problem with absolute truth? Do you think that are not compatible? Why? The reality is everything, nothing is excluded .

Well, I wear clothes that guys from Indonesia have made for $5 a day, I eat food that people have grown and transported, I use all kinds of technology maintained by enormous human effort, so it is my duty to do my best to compensate for that work. not only my duty, but a pleasure. I am human, I know how to plan, execute, observe the flow of events, anticipate what is going to happen, dance the dance of money. Money is sacred, it is the blood of society, it is the grease that allows machinery to function, it is pure beauty, luminous energy. I want to see how it comes to me, more and more, and use it to move the world, to the best of my ability. Let the hippies have fun in their communes, I prefer action, control, plans that come true, objectives that are met.

The rules of mainstream are saying that the trees bleed or that some aliens visited him? Why? It's impossible to understand from any perspective

I have a lot of plans, I'm an human, not a bird. I have to control everything, if not I'm going to sink in the shit. The game of evolution dont forgive. Anyway, anyone is free to go to the congo and live there as a homeless, but I'd say that nobody renounce to the security, comfort, protection, possibilities . Why to do that? We have to fight hard for life, like anything that lives

Exactly, a chain reaction could happen.

I prefer being in the tropical beach than in the box full of insects, it's inevitable. You could be very awake, until you are locked in the box, then you will become just a feeling: I want to go out. It's the human nature, or for you it's the same pain or pleasure?

Leo's only option would be to pretend that he is dead, bleeding like a tree, and at a given moment insert 30 mg of 5meo dmt into sadhguru's anus, then sadhguru would realize that he is Leo and the two would merge in a deep kiss, then sadhguru would admit that he's inventing all those histories and would become a Leo's student.