Breakingthewall

Agree, If there were any god would be a limit. The goal is the limitless, the absolute breadth, the total freedom, you true nature. Breaking everything until nothing remains.

The thing is that everything that you said could be true but even that, the ego has its place, and I respect it a lot. The human ego, and also my ego, has great power. I fought hard to floating, planning, executing, a war, and I'm still in it. What is the other option? Misery? Slavery? No, I want a better experience, I am life and life fights. Those monks could say their histories about detachment, for me are cowards who avoid life. Life is figth and suffering, and that's beautiful. If tomorrow I know that I ve a disease that prevent me to move then I will stop, but if I can move I will. That doesn't prevent being open to the absolute, opposite, that's the flow of life, if you do consciously it's perfect, you swim with the current

Open yourself to the limitless, then let existence happen

@Javfly33 I think that the point is once you perceive yourself, your true infinite nature, bring that nature to this experience, make it shine as much as it's possible. Nothing else is needed, not mystical trips, powers, past lifes, this is everything, here is the absolute, and the absolute shines, open it, let it flow. It's not something that is automatic or easy, it's like a game, many obstacles appears

The point is breaking your limits once, then do more and more, until its something normal to you. Breaking your limits is not achieve bliss or happiness or anything, that could happen but the point is breaking the limits, then you perceive yourself without the slightest doubt as the existence, there is nor another word to describe, you are what exist. Then with our human mind we could more or less understand what this experience is, and how is the configuration of the reality, but it's just relative understanding. The point is your nature, the existence, what are you and what everything is. In my opinion psychedelic are an enormous help, without that you have to be a monk, and it's not sure that you will get it. For me the change is totally obvious, but really I'm not so interesting in achieve more spiritual goals, the breaking of the limits is enough, and happens spontaneously more and more. I see that there is a path in this human life that I have to do, but being open to the unlimited. Then the things start to happen, the synchronicity is obvious

Then you mean breaking the limits of the ego, open yourself to infinity. It's what I try to do all time too, it's like a compulsion, and in my experience works little by little but without pause. It's not abandoning the body, is opening you energetic sistem, breaking the limitations.

I guess that you mean those enlightened monks that were feeded by the farmers who works all day. Seems comfortable preach detachment from that position. For me, I prefer to work for my food.

It's. It that you are glued to a body, as if the body were something foreign, it is that you are the emergence of the infinite that creates this concrete experience. The body is in it, and it is infinite, and each of its atoms is infinite. By force there have to be infinite emergences in the infinite, and you are one of them, and you are everything that is possible to be being in synchrony, limited by infinite emergences. It is a perfect gear. It is not that the body is some kind of error that must be solved, it is the total reality now. What everything that exists does is fill its place, expand its structure, evolve into other forms. There is no error here, everything is coordinated in absolute perfection.

Yes but just now you are in the form of a body, and that body has infinite implications. How denying that? The body is here. Could be impermanent but is

@Javfly33 It's simple, because you are the body. Not only the body, but also the body now. Those mystic who said netí netí, you are not the body, they are simply wrong. Sounds good, maybe I try the program. But wait, if you did, why you act like hysterical when someone says anything not wonderful about sadhguru? The program excludes that circumstance?

Sure, then you die of hunger and see your kids sold in a brothel and how the rats eat your mother, sounds wonderful. This discourse of: don't resist, etc , implies that all the humans in history were so stupid, but hey, here we are so smart with the solution. Seems like 6 years old kids trying to fix the world. @CoolDreamThanks First go to the war, then talk. It's easy to say those things in your comfortable house with food and internet. Say the same from a jail in Nigeria, then I would believe. Life is not a kids game.

Yeah, the point is act like that with everyone. If anyone don't accept you, he could go to hell. I put my truth in the table without contemplating if the other will like or accept. If I don't do so, I'm humiliating myself a lot in front him. Then, many will reject you and some will accept you without reservation. Over all, you will accept yourself without reservation.

I exist. In fact, I am the existence. For some reason, or for no reason at all, I am taking the appearance of a person with some circumstances, an apparently limited appearance, but it is not, it is unlimited. In me is the totality, I am the infinite that is. There is no doubt, and I cannot stop existing, it is absolutely impossible. I perceive my quality, it is unlimited existence, mysterious but at the same time familiar. Everything is here, and everything is beauty. infinite dimensions, there are no limits. That's really what we are: absence of limits.

Well said, without this real spirituality can't begin. Whatever happens is simply reality. Accepting this is the liberation of the ego, that gains power being a victim

It's not that they desire that, it's how the system is designed. It's not easy to be out of the system, for most the ideal is fitting, don't be out. They don't ask for more because they realize that they are one step far go be out, losers, alone, marginal. Nobody wants that, they would sell their soul for fitting

I think I was in a much more powerful and connected level of existence when I was 4, 5, 6, 7 years old. I was totally open to the reality. From then a work starts that leads you to the stupidity, more and more deeply. The people that surrounded you has a astonishing level of stupidity, and you want to be like them, and it's not easy being so stupid, requires a big effort. Then, in some point you reach a good level, without it it's impossible to fit. It's like a hell, you live surrounded by a kind of robots that seems that they know something that you don't, and you can't understand in any case, like you were from another place. Then in a moment you realize that and work to reverse the process. It's a crazy process that never ends, but at the end it's funny, like a game

Yes you are, little by little I'm removing the layer of shit of myself, not easy. Really that's the work that all us are doing, being human is difficult. Very difficult when you really see what involve. Humbly i ve to say no my dear, this is the holy heaven, only that it's hidden. There is one reality: now. And always is going to be now. We just have to penetrate in what we are to the bottom, here and now. Life is existence, and is what we are.

I'd say that the only purpose of life is life itself. But life could be more alive. Well, it's not so weird part, you just said that no one has all the answers. Except me, of course. Call me smart ass if you want.

It's a matter of absence of limitations. In infinity there are infinite relative movements, all of them are the same infinity reflecting in itself, and all of them are coordinated, synchronized, because all of them are infinite, then your experience is relative movement. The point is realizing what is the infinity, the totality. Anything else are relative movement among relative movements. It's possible realizing the totality and understanding what the totality is, being the totality is understanding the totality.

Let's say that you, or me, are the reality, and in the reality many things appears, in fact infinite things, and one of them is the appearance of you looking the wall, then you, the reality, get lost in the appearance of a you inside the set who seems to be the perceiver of a perception, when really there is not perception, there is just the reality, the whole thing that is. Forget that could be others or anything else, any meaning, god, creation, anything, just the reality. At first seems a jail. You realize that you, as the reality, independent of the content, are always here, and nothing is really happening, you are trapped for ever in the now. But then you can realize that the now, that is, you, is unlimited. Beyond the apparent content, the wall, the your, etc, this now is an abyss, and all that abyss is you, and you are alive, you are the totality of the existence, and you have no limits. You are an abyss, all of you are the same, we are the abyss, and you can perceive yourself, your quality, your absolute freedom. Then, happiness, freedom, beauty. But who else in the world is going to understand you? Nobody! Nobody has open himself to the abyss, it's so so rare.

No, what I think that it's a mistake, Metaphysically speaking, it is that you are looking at the wall, then you are one. There is really no you looking at the wall, there is a reality that is the complete set. "looking at the wall" is meaning, you on the one hand, the act of looking and the wall on the other. All of this from the perspective of the ego that knows things is obvious, but really, if you erase all the meaning and you don't know what "you" is, or "looking" or "wall", there is only one thing: reality. This is Step one to, as you have said correctly (without any irony), open yourself to the cosmos and be one with it, you do not open yourself to the cosmos, you erase yourself and the cosmos remains, and then it is obvious that the cosmos is you. remove mental meaning from the equation, then you can perceive yourself, and deepen your perception of yourself

I just perceive what existence is, it's like anything else, it never was created, never could be destroyed, just transformed.

Death is impossible, what exist cant cease of existing. Death is just a change of frequency.

Of course you are! Even if you are on risk to replacing our longed-for James 123😅. I am open to understanding that there is no one here and that, but it would have to be explained in depth, because seems that I am here having a coffee in a terrace now

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that all those profesional yoguis are profesional scammers from thousands of years ago. All them claim to have powers and no one showed any of them. Seems like it's a indian tradition, and sadhguru is the yogui 3.0, the modern version, smart, charming, active, and very liar. But always...who knows.