Breakingthewall

The problem with Tolle's message is that it tells you: Right now, at this exact moment, are you in pain, or is something bad happening to you? Not true? So why are you suffering? This is a recurring message in nonduality. The answer would be: You're suffering by mistake; you shouldn't be suffering, since nothing hurts. From this message, it follows that the ego, the mental matrix, is something unreal, and what's real is the body, which can hurt. This is absolutely false; the mental matrix is exactly as real as the body and hurts just as much as the body does. A zebra doesn't have this mental matrix, therefore it doesn't hurt, but a human does. When Tolle says: Look at the crazy things humans have done for something unreal, like the nation! It's something that doesn't exist, and people kill for it. Well, we could say: Look how crazy the crocodiles are, obsessed with eating so they don't die of hunger, when the body doesn't really exist; it's a collection of atoms that will disintegrate sooner or later. Tolle doesn't understand that the mental matrix is a real energetic structure, as real as the body. A new dimension of existence that is evolving at a pace several orders of magnitude faster than the physical. That it isn't something tangible and physical doesn't make it any less real. Tolle and nonduality deny this reality, and that's why they're false philosophies. Not intentionally false, but fundamentally wrong, they propagate a comforting but ultimately false spirituality that doesn't resolve, only numbs, like a drug.

I've been reflecting on this topic and I know well. I know Tolle very well, and he's been important in my journey, but above all, it's been important to realize the error I perceive in him. I know many people who believe what Tolle says, and I see in them evasion and no depth, since Tolle, to me, is castrating . When I say castrating, it's because his entire message suggests that ego and projection into the past are a mistake, and that the person is choosing this way of functioning out of ignorance. Nothing in reality is a mistake. Saying this is like saying that birds fight over fish by mistake, because they're ignorant, or that bacteria kill the host by mistake. It's a big thing, On the other hand, reading Tolle is reassuring. When you read it, you feel liberated; it seems as if the knots in your psyche have loosened, but this is temporary. It is absolutely impossible to reach the state of nirvana that Tolle describes if you haven't done your work in the external world. Tolle puts all the weight on the interior; he tells you that, by choosing to, you can be the master of your mental state regardless of external conditions. This, for me, is once again castrating. The interior and the exterior are one. There are times when reality demands war from you, and also suffering. You are not an autonomous capsule isolated from external reality; you are a hive entity absolutely interconnected with the whole; you are simultaneously the part and the totality. Tolle is limited, and his limitation makes him mistaken, and his mistakenness makes him false. And this falsehood, which sounds like truth, penetrates minds, calms them, but then castrates them, isolates them. Do you understand my point? Or does it seem like a joke?

@Grateful Dead anyway, I have to read again. I just find something wrong in his approach now, I think it's impossible to reach the point that Tolle said he did magically, without a deep understanding of his mind. Could happen in some moments, but not maintained. I doubt a lot of the people who claim such things and then a lot of money comes to them. There is something in his message that maybe is distorted. Just maybe. Anyway, it's shocking that nobody here has the level to refute this without insulting or getting angry. Interesting, Tolle talks about overcoming the ego, and you ridicule and get angry. Perhaps his teachings didn't work after all? That's what I meant

There is a lot of unconscious tension and stress, and it manifests as tension in the body. Many capsules of negative emotion or trauma are trapped in the energetic pattern that we are, creating waves of anxious energy that we live with and don't perceive because we are used to them. Looking inward means noticing all these distortions, facing them, and deactivating them. What they call enlightenment has a lot to do with the physical, with allowing your energies to flow unhindered. It is a slow and difficult process, as you have to resolve all the inherited karma, that is, all the inherited anxious energy, all the fear that creates distortion, self-reference, escape forward, stress.

I didn't say any nonsense, I make an opinion about a topic that I know very well, I have read the two books of Tolle, the power of now and the other, a new earth or something like that, and I got really impressed when I did. But after I got much deeper and I realized the fundamental mistake of his approach. Anyway, why do you need to use the worlds nonsense, joke, etc? Do you have the need of humilliating to have the reason about Tolle? It doesn't work in that way. For me, he rejects the ego; he considers it something to be overcome, a deception of the mind. For me, this is a mistake. Your ego tells you what you must do, what karma you must perform. You have to understand it and solve the enigma, otherwise it will never disappear. It's different for each person, a personal enigma in each life, and there are no shortcuts. There's a mission to fulfill, and evasion doesn't work. You're not a zebra living in the now; you're a human being with a mission, and this is not a mistake, it's what you are.

No, look, if you want to talk about a topic if you say: all that you said seems a joke. Then, why are you answering? Do you answer to anyone who says nonsense? It's a loss of time. If you are talking to me it's because you are interested in the topic, then you could argue what I say, but if you say: all that you said is nonsense, it'd not a proper argument. Do you catch it? It never happens if you don't understand absolutely your energetic pattern and you face it, it's a long process, and in the Tolle's book never explain how to do it, he only describe what the ego is according to him. He has interesting explanation about the ego but in my opinion he fails at its core, the ego is considered unreal, a human malfunction that causes all evil. However, the ego is absolutely real. It's a genetic pattern that drives humans as a species, and it's impossible to overcome if you don't understand it, confront it, and satisfy it in a great stent. There are real conditions that will make your life hell, and things that you must do in life. Take the decision of being detached doesn't work

He said that he achieved it in one day Ah ok, you just want to put yourself above with aggressive attitude. Well, I'm sorry to doubt about Tolle, don't be angry and defensive.

Let's say that beyond some level of division, the air is not breathable, then it's not air anymore

this guy in 2015 was quite accurate about future. Shame that he wasn't listened

Could be but physics don't say that it's impossible to divide, says that if you divide beyond that limit it's not space anymore.

I agree that he can be useful and a good introduction to spirituality, but I think he's mistaken at the root of his message. I'm not saying he's a fraud, but I think he's mistaken. His message suggests that the ego is a mistake of perspective, and that it's absolutely simple to escape from that perspective; you just have to take a step back and place yourself above it. I think this is a mistake, it's impossible. The human psyche is an energetic reality, a living being with a solid structure, and it's impossible to escape from it with a single movement of changing perspective. I think that's a straightforward lie. The psyche is an energetic framework with real foundations and enormous power: the desire to live, the fear of dying, coded with hot iron in the foundation of the human being, in its genetics. Anyone who believes Tolle message will end up frustrated. But perhaps, thanks to him, he will embark on the real path, the inner search in which he will face his fears, unravel his psyche, look death in the face, and open the doors to the limitless

That's what you think, but maybe you are wrong and it's impossible to divide it.

It seems that it is increasingly necessary in technology and many analysts say that its value will increase a lot, but they also say that about many other things.

Zelensky is so funny https://x.com/TrendsIntel/status/1895578199847027177?t=T0GJayFUoG3QKOd-Tb4R6A&s=09

No, I just said that Tolle approach is simplistic and at the end false. Tolle is pure seduction, which is why he's been so successful. he says a zebra in the savannah is always present; for it, only the now exists. Perhaps he doesn't understand that a human isn't a zebra; his approach is false; it doesn't work. The mental matrix is a reality extremely powerful, and no one in the world, ever, since The Power of Now was published, has achieved liberation with his approach. They've only been seduced by her idea and then frustrated by the impossibility of achieving what he promises. Btw, where I talked about god and that? Read carefully and then make a meditate answer, don't speak without the minimum work because I'm talking seriously

And about Tolle. For me, it's essentially false. His message is that human emotional energy is basically a malfunction and that it's very easy to repair; you just have to not project into the past or the future and be here. My friend Tolle, the past and the future are here, and their energy is absolutely real. Your emotional structure is a genetically encoded reality that develops throughout life like a tree that grows from a seed, according to the encoding and the environment. Without truly penetrating the roots of anxiety, the lack of love, and the drive to survive and reproduce, understanding them, opening yourself completely to them, and being one with them, staring death in the face, you're not going to achieve anything. Tolle is escapism, cocaine. Eckart says, "Get a line of cocaine of now and you'll forget your emotional structure, since it isn't real." It's exactly as real as a one-ton rock. You can pretend it doesn't exist, but it will still crush you.

It's very different. a boxing match with a guy in front of you who wants to rip your head off, you're completely present, but you're not meditating. Meditation isn't concentration; it's openness. The human mind functions like a limiter, shutting out everything that isn't necessary. Returning to the boxing example, you won't be thinking about whether you're happy with your relationship with your girlfriend or what Donald Trump will do tomorrow. You're absolutely present, measuring distances and in automatic mode, projecting the next move in your mind and at the same time ready to correct it in a tenth of a second, perfect flow, like a trance. It's the exact opposite of real meditation. For example, a sardine swimming on sea is absolutely present and in perfect flow, but it's not meditating. Meditation is the ability to open your mental focus so that there is no longer focus. You are no longer a person; nothing is concrete, because anything concrete is mental focus. You open the lens of the mental camera to the point where there is no camera; there is only totality. Anything concrete—for example, God, creation, will, whatever—is focus. The absence of focus must be total, and without focus, there is nothing concrete, only existence. Limitless expansion, and that's your infinite nature. It's not that difficult, but it's scary at first.

Maybe silver is a good idea due to its industrial demand

Space cannot be divided infinitely, it is not an abstract mathematical concept to which to add zeros after the decimal point, is something real. theoretically the minimum limit to which you can divide space is 1.6 x 10 to the power of -35. Below this, space is no longer space.

God is limited, reality is limitless. Can't you see it? There is no concrete will, no plan, there is only expansion. Think carefully about the idea that god is creating this experience to have a human experience, like a game, because god wants it. This is limited in all of its dimensions. It's absolutely wrong idea. There is only expansion, and that expansion is exactly this now. It's a source that flows, and you are the flow. It's perfectly synchronized, because any other possibility is not happening, only this possibility is possible now. Only because the other possibilities are not absolutely synchronized with the infinity that flows. You are a flow, there is not a god above you creating it, it's the flow that arises from the absence of limits. God is a barrier, someone that does something because some reason somehow. No, just the flow.

Hitler had the subtle characteristic that he was a war fanatic and a proud racist. Honestly, I think Trump wants to leave a positive mark, another thing is that with how unstable, maybe stupid and crazy he seems he causes chaos, but his idea is to elevate the US and go down in history as a great leader. I'm not saying that with these strange attitudes like putting tariffs on Canada he will achieve it, I'm saying that it is what he wants. Of course Hitler wanted the same

God implies concrete will, deliberate planification, a plan. There is not that, the only will is the inevitable will of being, because the will of don't being don't is. There is no plan, since there are no limits, so any plan would be disintegrated into infinity. there is only the ceaseless flow of reality, because if it ceases, there is no reality. therefore there is no god, there is infinite existence, because it's inevitable.

It is simply reality when you take off the suit of the experience that is taking place. Experience is always movement, movement is always imperfect, because in order to move it must search for something. The heaven is immutable, it is the being. It never changes, it is absolute. In it, the experience flows, and the being is lost in the fluid and cannot grasp its essence. The force of the flow drags you along, it is omnipresent, inevitable. At a given moment you realize its irrelevance. One movement is the same as another movement, they are simply movement. It is the same to be a saint or a drug addict or a yogi or a murderer or a sardine. They are only movement, the being is always there, containing the movement. Then you are lost again in the movement, it's inevitable.

He's right, I'm materialistic, materialism is true, spirituality too, but not that bullshit of indian spirituality, just the openess to the infinite being. Btw, you could feel in his energy that he's closed in a high level of closure. Spiritual people use to be more closed to the real thing and any other people.

Show me some serious proof and then I will rectify