Breakingthewall

@Javfly33 Well, a less dramatic example, tomorrow you could have a stroke and spend 20 years without moving in a hospital bed without being able to communicate. Would it be possible to be happy? In theory yes, but for a human it is very difficult, you should cancel your humanity. That's what you mean when you say you can be untouchable due to circumstances, is it really possible? become non-human, absolutely indifferent, without any need, empty of what is human. that is the enlightenment that you propose. Really, thats the only real total enlightenment imo

It may happen that your city is invaded by the imperial Japanese army and that a sadistic samurai does not like your face and tortures you for years. You can believe that this is because you did something in another life, but this is just a belief, maybe you were in the wrong place and that's it. For example Jesus was crucified, many bad things could happen, that's life.

Nobody could be happy enjailed alone in a box of 2X1x1 m at 45° during 5 years. Well, maybe it's possible in some exceptional case, but do you think that you could achieve that level? I'm sure that me not, this level of detachment is not possible even as an idea. Well, except I'm there, then I would try. Yes, but the ego exist.

In great extent yes. Without body there is no form or structure, not experience. The fact of having an experience, the mental structure, the possibility of have perception is because the body. Without body there is not perception, just atemporal existence. Ultimately is what we are, but right now we can't scape of the experience, it's impossible. You could say that it's imaginary, but imagine that you have a chronic pain maximum level, could you scape from it? Then in my opinion what we can do is perceive ourselves as unlimited existence in the most extent possible, but it's impossible totally, because we are prisoners of the experience, then better enjoy the depth of the experience in the most concious way possible, because more deep you perceive, better experience

@Clarence the problem is that there is a lot of people who needs to steal the energy of others. It could be a guy who wants to enslave you with a whip (rare nowadays) or a toxic girlfriend (not so rare). If you are weak, those kinds of people will be attracted to you unconsciously, and having your energy drained is not a positive thing. It is necessary to know how to identify those patterns and cut those kind of relationships .

Women are more attached to the social thing because their genetic evolution, and this is a disadvantage in spirituality

@Aether Phoenix my advice is don't believe a single word of what you watch in videos about spirituality. Forget them totally, are toxic food for the mind.

Revenge is stupid and useless, defense is necessary and useful. If someone is damaging you, release against him everything. Is someone damaged you in the past, use this feeling to be determinated to fight to death when it will be necessary. Practice the fight, physical and mental. Never let anyone step on you, steal your energy. the scale must always be balanced. I remember reading that it was impossible to enslave Native Americans because they either fought or opted for collective suicide. I'm not sure if it was always the case, but I think it was wonderful if it were true I recently read that Herich Hartmann, a German flying ace who was captured by the Russians and locked up in a gulag, refused to work. He was confined in solitary confinement for 5 months and he continued to refuse, they threatened to kill him, then they offered him an improvement in his living conditions if he agreed to be a flight instructor, and he always refused. another great example

In a sense yes, how deny the body? It exists, it's not just an idea. There is a structure, ok that the mental world, the ego mind that make a scheme of you as a person with characteristics that is moving in a timeline is just an idea, but it's built upon real basis. But anyway, I think it's possible to live is a permanent openess to the unlimited, in fact i think that arrived to this point, we should achieve that.

@Princess Arabia btw, why did you erase that thread about good and bad? It's an interesting topic.

Do you think that this can happen totally? Maybe yes

I don't think that reality make things, it's just a mirage that appears due the reflection of the reality in itself to the infinite power, something inevitable. There is not any god creating anything, no will, no intention. Just infinite reflection of the reality in itself. It's free and wild, nobody is at control . Anyway it's always wonderful because it's always the reality, that is, let's say, wonderful, absolute you, your heart open and in it everything is, the totality of existence

I was trying to understand but now I cant. Anyway, Do you see? You are trying to sharp your mind. In the other thread you said: it's all mental loop, no mind sharp, everything is the same, nothing exist...then?

Exactly, but you could be enchained again, then unchained, then enchained, etc. it's not something that happens once and done. First time happens 3 seconds and it's a total change, then again, maybe a month later, then more, and more. It's a slow process. It's not: I do 5meo and I see god, then I'm normal again, it's a process where you are breaking the shell of the self more and more, the psychedelic are a help but the main tool is your focusing. You are doing it all time, and the hole is getting bigger. Then a lot of time the hole is quite open, even not totally ,then you could perceive yourself as an illusion, as an hologram. You are the big abyss, not the thing that appears, but it's difficult stay in this perspective, it's too strange, then you are in the middle of two perspectives

That's the point. But there is a problem, it's impossible to empty yourself. You could try for 100 years meditating that it doesn't going to happen, never. The only way to empty yourself is the openess. It happens is a second. When your mind is open, there are not Limits. If there are not limits, everything of the self expands to infinity and dissapear. There is not more emotional charge, not a mental world because in the openess it fades and dissapear. This happen in an instant, it's not a process

Then you understand the difference between open and close. If there is mental world with emotional charge, you are closed, I don't mean the world that we imagine, the earth and that, I mean your mental history, seeing yourself as a timeline . If you don't see yourself as a timeline, if you have no past , not history with emotional charge, and no future, nothing about you that is running in your mind about your future, just the now, and in the now the only emotion that is happening is openess, then you are open . I didn't say that you aren't, I said that if you are the thing of the mental bubble is obvious

There is something absolutely real, the existence. What appears in existence is the same, but if you are open to the existence there is not doubt that it's real. What is illusion is the emotions, the thoughts, the mental world that we create, that must dissapear. The only thing that is real is the existence, that is the absolute. You could be open to that full time, it's like have your heart open, your mind open, then the reality is clear, obvious.

Y Wrong, I'm totally open now. Sometimes I get closed again. Be open is having an unlimited mind, without any self reflection. It needs, the psyche is a bubble that can be desintegrate. You don't understand it because you never did, if not you would understand what I mean I broke the bubble and then the bubble returns a lot of times. Sometimes I am hours and hours without bubble, in total openess, other times the bubble returns and I got in the mental loop again. Believe me, I know it perfectly because a reason: my mental loop is hell, it's like an ocd of hate. It could be in background, but always there, dense, intense, never stops. Then in a moment it's broken. In an instant the limits dissapear and I'm not myself anymore, it's openess. It could be 2, 3 days lately . Then in a moment the bubble returns, and it's absolutely impossible to get out of it at will, even for 1 second. I spent many years in the bubble, then I know exactly and without the slightest doubt when the bubble is broken, believe me, it's absolutely real

What i see is that any feeling or thought that is not openess is something that is creating the self. It's the same good or bad, for example being in love is "good" but is creating the self, because implies possession. Only the total openess is the real thing, and the total openess is an homogeneous feeling, you feel it for everything, but the people is close and it's difficult to communicate with them, only few are open, with an empty mind. Empty not is the sense of silent , but without emotional charge. Any emotional charge about anything is closeness, it's grabbing an handle that keep us prisoner. The emotional charge is what creates the self, and the self is the separation. The change from being in the self, trapped in the emotional, or being open, absolutely free, is something that happens in a Instant. In moment you are open and you are totally out of the psyche, of the emotional, the good and bad. You are absolutely simple, just open, nothing more. But it's easy to fall again in the self mode, because almost everybody is in that mode. The relationship with the others is what makes you get in the self mode because are those relationship what created the self, then you have to be able to be absolutely open with the others to prevent that they close you

It's something that happens little by little, every day a bit more, one day a moment, another day more, a path that is becoming wider. There is not a liberation that happens and you are free, are thousands of liberation that are becoming more normal,clearing the residue of attachment. It is something very difficult, it requires a very clear intuition. Who is totally free of his limits all time? Sure there are people, but I don't know anyone, those gurus that are famous, I'd say no one of them Yes , always saying that, but you are closed in a mental bubble, what we are trying to do is breaking that bubble, its something real. It's not the same closed Bubble that openenss.

No way! we are sharpening our mind so that it cuts like a razor blade. Don't you hear how it sharpens? every moment a little sharper, until it can cut the reality

Well, all revolutions were made more or less like this, and all had a role in human evolution. In humanity nothing ever happens without being surrounded by shit

@Javfly33 As an example, the autobiographical book Storms of Steel. The guy spent 4 years in the First World War and he thought it was something sublime. He was in the Battle of the Somme, where on the first day there were 100,000 casualties, and it seemed like pure poetry to him. He was wounded 11 times, then became friends with Hoffman and became a pioneer of psychedelics, Junger, died at 103 years old.

There is no truth because there is not lie, there are different perspectives, and over all limited perspective vs unlimited perspective. What you can't do is have an unlimited perspective from a limited perspective, you could try, but it's useless

All that is true if you are operating in a limited, separated way. If you are open, there is not external and internal, nothing has a price because that price would be part of the existence, everything is an expression of yourself as reality. It's the same meditating or talk with someone, everything is the infinity flowing in itself. Liberate from what? You still have to breath and eat, and have coats in winter and a place where sleep, the only that you would get is depending from less "external" things, but still there are, then, why not to have more?