Breakingthewall

You could do what you want, writing mein Kampf and exterminate the inferior races or anything but if you want to be one with the absolute, be totally aligned, then better don't exterminate Jews when you use methamphetamine and heroin every day

Being directly concious is knowing. There are two ways to knowing, one relative, another absolute. The relative is for example knowing that if I stab anyone he's going to die. The absolute is that you are. It's not so simpler than knowing that you are a human, that's relative. Absolute knowing is omniscience and only can happen if you are totally open. I could have absolute knowing 10 minutes ago and now not anymore, then I build relative knowledge over that remember and it's just relative. The absolute I am implies everything, it's total omniscience, but has a little problem: you can't remember it, it's actual, now, and it's mystical extasy, absolute openness. Then, anything else is relative perspective, not false, relative.

What is reincarnation? Something that is going to happen after this life? Happen to whom? What is the difference with a baby that born today or me borning after my death? Everything that exists is the absolute taking a form, then what is the difference between a rat that right now is existing and my next incarnation? Really I don't understand that about reincarnation , if I had many incarnations in the past, how many could be? Millions? I can't remember them, then what is the difference with no one? Maybe all about reincarnation is a lie and all is just a religion, same than Islam or that about Thor and Odin, just tales.

🤣 Imo you are right and wrong. Searching enlightenment to finish the suffering is narcissism and doesn't work, but if you are enlightened, the suffering is zero. But who is enlightened all time? That's nothing that I would like, with a while sometimes is enough, then let's live, suffer and be humans. Btw, that of the suffering is happening to nobody doesn't work, the thing is open yourself to your true nature, not convince yourself that you are nothing. You are something, in fact everything

Yes, attachment is an evolutionary mechanism genetically implanted to ensure the survival of the species, and suffering is the energetic vibration that has been developed by evolution to force the individual to obey the genetic mandate. Transcending all this even for a few minutes is very difficult, it is a methodical and slow work always in the right direction. Clear understanding is essential to avoid falling into mental traps. Suffering happens because the attachment to the impermanence, but without this attachment you would be indifferent to your survival or the survival of the people close you, then the individuals with stronger attachment survive and transmit their legacy, and so on. The problem is that the impermanent is impermanent, then this attachment means suffering by default, all time. The trap of the ego, make us machines of survival but we have to pay the prize: a blocked mind full of anxiety, aggressiveness, hate, fear and evilness. A hell. Enlightenment means seeing through the impermanent, be open to the absolute, but if you are enlightened, you are not so worry about survival, about your genetic legacy, have a family, etc. Then, if all the humans were enlightened, the human kind would be extingued very fast, civilization never would happened. We could be enlightened now, when the survival is guaranteed by technology, and transmit our genetic legacy is not important anymore.

I always intuitively perceived that fear is prison, before having read any book on spirituality, even when I was 8 years old. For me it was essential to face fear, for this I seriously got involved in activities such as clean style rock climbing, hang gliding with delta in extreme conditions, boxing and sailing, with two Atlantic crossings in harsh conditions with old boats alone (with a girl who didn't know about sailing), all this was very challenging since the risk of serious accident and death was very real and you could perceive it clearly right here and now. the real danger, on a 200 m wall 10 m from the last safety, or with a 90 kg Russian guy in front who wants to kill you in a ring, or in a storm of 5 days with gusts of 120 km/h in the middle of the ocean. All this centers you, helps real openness, I think it is recommended in spirituality, inner work and external work. At least for most of us, because we are extremely attached to the body, to the security, in our society it's inevitable, then even we meditate a lot, the fear is still there . Anyway, the attached to the body is extremely difficult to let go

Nihilism is just an opinion, like saying: I think that human life is shit. It's relative, just a feeling, an idea. What is absolute is the existence of this feeling or idea. Absolute meaning is that existence exist, it's not an opinion, it's absolute, it's not mental, you can be open to it and this is enlightenment. Enlightenment like Buddha and Ramakrishna, there is nothing else, it's everything.

@Razard86 maybe you could be so open to your true nature, to what existence is, that for you being tortured, and your family tortured, be sick with cancer and horrible pain, alone eaten by the rats and the insects, could be perceived as the absolute glory of existing

The topic is that the op doesn't see meaning in life. He's wrong, if you get deep in the reality you go through the nihilism and arrive to the absolute meaning: existing. There is no more meaning needed. This is the absolute, the enlightenment, the infinite power. It's not knowing with your mind that existence exist as something logical analizing the facts, it's being open to the existence and perceive it's nature. It's nature is existing, and this is the absolute meaning , it's like a light, that's why they call it enlightenment. Everything is enlightened, full of the light of existence. But we are humans and have a conditioning. This conditioning implies see everything that is against our survival as dark. Then, we get veiled,.it's inevitable

Well, if you say that all the meanings ultimately are existence in any facet, then agree, all the meanings are real. Then for example saying that the meaning of human life is make the humankind to evolve is as real that saying that the meaning of human life is killing people, it depends of the case. That's similar than saying that human life has not a definite meaning, then the only meaning is existing. We could perceive easily our strong bias if we try to affirm truly: the meaning of life is torturing kids. But this is a facet of existing. Existence is wild, it's everything. Then we could say that Maya is just to make differentiations. Torture kids is the same than love kids from an absolute perspective. Both exist. Do you perceive how all your conditioning scream trying to see it? Me yes.

Non existence doesn't exist, then only existence exist. The existence is absolute meaning, it exists. Its total. Other meanings are what they call maya, just illusion. The only real meaning is existing

There is something paradoxical. There is a phase of the spiritual path that is absolute nihilism. You must really, deeply and without a doubt realize that reality is nothing, that it is absolutely empty, to realize later that it is absolutely everything and that is absolutely full. It's totally obvious: you are, then this being encompass the infinity. Nothing can stop or limit it because there is nothing else. You are the totality. Sometimes you get absolutely empty, it's like your body dissapear and there is only a black hole without bottom, nothing. This could be felt as extremely sad, terrific. It's necessary to don't scape of this void, don't try to fill it with mind, be it, open yourself to it. Then what you are can be perceived, the pure being. That's enlightenment, and can't be remembered, just be opened to it now. Then if it closes you haven't it anymore, it's the same if you had it 10 min ago.

Life has an absolute meaning. The meaning is: existing. No more meaning is needed. The existence is like an infinite supernova that explode in existence infinitely. There is not opposite, then it's absolutely expanded, is infinite and it's absolutely alive. It's like an infinite yes, Totally open, with a infinitely positive push. Being is everything, is the totality, infinitely deep and infinitely open. That's what we are, and we have to open our heart to it. You are, that's it, and it's absolutely everything.

All of this is as important as the interactions of bacteria in a mud pond. the importance you give it. In fact that importance and meaning is the veil that veils the nature of the reality. The meaning is what they call maya. The problem with maya is that we, the humans, build it in our minds over genetic basis, then it's very difficult to get rid of if and see infinitely. It's a path.

If you understand what infinity implies, you see clearly that God has no control, and therefore the word God is misleading. Relative reality is the absolute reflecting on itself infinitely, since the absolute is the absolute will to be, since the will not to be is not a possibility. then, from the inevitable total will to be everything emerges, and everything is in essence the absolute in infinite facets. You cannot control what is infinite since control implies limits. God is the absence of limits, therefore God only has one will: to be. And can't choose to have or not that will, it's absolute and inevitable, therefore god is and inevitable natural phenomena that happens because there are not limits and the unfathomable depth is.

Exactly, we perceive as evil anything that is an obstacle for our survival and development. but above all we perceive as evil what is caused by humans, not by bacteria or earthquakes. If our survival were absolutely indifferent to us, evil would not exist, therefore evil is simply a bias of our perception. We see as good what helps society survive and develop, and as bad what hinders it. From an absolute perspective, evil does not exist, since everything relative is cyclical, therefore it returns to its origin. It doesn't matter if he does it because of Hitler's actions or because oldhood

From an absolute perspective life is meaningless, and from a relative perspective it's full of meaning. Even the movement of an atom has a butterfly effect that moves all the infinity. But of course, all the movement of infinity is not movement from an absolute perspective.

Exactly, the reality reveals itself as absolutely empty. The first time that you really realize that is extremely depressing, over all if you really see it. It's an abyss of nothing that opens in front of you. Everything is a mirage, and just under surface there is void, nothing. Then you realize that there is still you in the nothing, then you are the nothing. There is no meaningless life, is a meaningless you. Then you open your heart and you realize that the substance of your heart don't dissapear in the void of existence. It fills the infinite void because it's inexhaustible. In fact, it's the reality.

Enlightenment is realizing that the existence is what you are and it's always here and now, and the appearance that is happening is irrelevant or less relevant. What you are is what exist, not how it appears. It's difficult because all of us are attached to the form, to the character. In fact seems impossible because the character can't imagine a reality without him as character, but he's irrelevant, the substance, the depth of this limitless moment is what exist, and it's possible to be open to its essence, to it limitless potential. This is always beyond the form, in any being. Everything is that.

There is not meaning, just dance. dance like a dervish on the edge of an abyss, with the blue sky above his head. Flow with the flow, and dance with art. Only the beauty of the dance matters, it's depth and it's openenss, it's truth . Look to the abyss in the face and smile to it, you are at home, in the existence.

It's impossible to stop the suffering if you are attached to the impermanent, and it's impossible to don't be attached to the impermanent if you aren't totally enlightened. Enlightened implies be one with the absolute, with your true nature, and see the relative as a mirage in the form, but absolute in its essence. It's extremely difficult to be detached of the form, but it is the way, seems that the absolute manifests in everything inversely proportional to how attached you are to the form

You have to continue until there is no you trying to let go of anything, but rather the opening is total, without limits. It is a slow process in which you first have to realize the total emptiness of reality and then merge with it and be it, then reality opens and is filled with you, who completely permeates the infinite, then you know what you are. and what reality is

Good to know that you are ok. Evilness is just the attachment to the impermanence. There is not evil outside of your feeling of evilness, and your feeling of evilness happens because you are attached to the impermanent. Of course all of us are, but we can understand that the impermanent is just impermanent f we realize our immutable nature

No way, what I said is clear, not a mess. Look, try to understand logically what infinity implies, it's important if you want to see through the relative. Imagine something that has no beginning or end or limits. Imagine that a point moves there. If you have no reference, there is no real movement, since the frame where you are moving is unlimited. This means that the point is static from the point of view of infinity. Imagine that there are two points, then one point can move relative to the other. and now imagine that those points are a fragment of infinity, since they cannot be anything else. Any fragment of the infinite is in turn infinite, in the infinite nothing finite can exist. The only finite thing that can exist is the appearance of finitude. That is, the relative movement between those two points is finite, but those two points are not really moving if they are not contrasting each other. They are a reflection of infinity with itself, creating the appearance of movement. So, if there are two points at infinity, each one is really infinite since any part of infinite infinity and therefore total infinity (basic mathematics) , then it would be more points or reflections reflecting each other. how many? infinite. They really are the same infinity, but it is reflected infinitely, creating movements that combine with each other to infinite power. Why are these movements one way and not another? Only because they are synchronous with each other, any asynchrony would result simply in not appearing as movement. Remember that movements are simply reflections of the infinite with itself, they are not "something", they are relative appearance from an absolute perspective, nothing is really happening because in infinity point a and point b are the same. Not evolution could happen, and no will could lead the movement to be in a way or another, because the only will that could be in infinity is infinite will, that is the will of existing, that happens for the only reason that the will of not existing don't exist. The will of existing makes that the infinity reflects itself infinitely in all directions, in infinite dimensions. Then, do you want to see through the relative? First realize that what you really are is necessarily the infinity, because everything is that, nothing else could be. Then realize than any appearance is just relative, a reflection, and ultimately has no meaning. The only reason to appear is because it happens, because this movement is synchroniced to the infinite reflections. And infinite reflections happen just because the infinity has not a brake, not a limit, not a will of not exist that is in opposition to the will of existing. Then the infinite potential that infinity is develops infinitely, but all that appears really is just a reflection of the nature of infinity. And what is that nature? What infinity really is? It's you. You are that. Absolutely, totally. You can feel completely what you are, everything is you, everything that existed, exist and will exist in the eternity is you, and you are the unfathomable reality that is in the eternal now. Without form but with an absolute quality: the total potential, the absolute will of existing without opposite, because all the opposites of the positive push simply doesn't exist. Existence exist for the only reason that non existence doesn't exist.

That of the illusion only leads to confusion. enlightenment is not realizing that everything is a trick that you, as a god, do to deceive yourself and that kind of madness, it is realizing what you really are. Relative reality is impermanent, and from an absolute perspective it is only an appearance, since from eternity and infinity there is no real movement, no point a and b, no evolution or purpose, only movement relative to other movement, circular cycles that end where they started. But while I'm here I have to eat and all that. then it can be said that from an absolute perspective the manifested reality is apparent and relative, there is no real movement or evolution in infinity, but from a relative perspective there is. It doesn't matter, what matters is realizing what you are ultimately, not what you are not, because relatively you are relative