Breakingthewall

The difference between relative solipsism and absolute solipsism is that relative solipsism is psycho, you think that you are imagining the others, but you can't make them act at your will or change the appearance because you are god and blocked the game, but can't unblock it. Then at the end of the movie the main character awakes in the mental institution. The real solipsism means that you are not you, you are the substance of the reality. What you are is let's say "something" not someone. Then the others and anything else is the same thing

Exactly. People who say that after awakening then have problems to to relate to others since they are at another level, it is because they have not really awakened. If you are awake you see that the others are you, and you relate in a much more direct way. No are you as a ego, you are not imagining them, they are you as substance, you and them are the same. You're not looking for people who know things, you're looking for people who don't put up barriers. The connection that occurs is not mental, the mental does not mean anything, it is real connection because you are open to what you are. It's like when you were a kid and have friends in the school, the problem is that when adults most of them put a lot of barriers, the thing is don't do the same

If it's heterogeneous, it's limited. But you could realize that really it's homogeneous, it's always the same substance with different appearances

awakening is completely dissolving your experience until reality is absolutely limitless and homogeneous, and realizing that this is the nature of reality. Then you return to a relative perspective and realize that everything that appears is that same substance. and that's it, there is no more awakening, everything "more" is less, it is relative knowledge that means absolutely nothing at an absolute level, and at a relative level it is that...relative. So all that about awakening to God, to the illusion, to solipsism, is simply relative knowledge that means nothing

Maybe he thought he's enlightened because he needs so much thinking that. It's very common.

Btw, think what is the % of your direct realization and what are ideas introduced by others. You could say inspired by others, that's good. I prefer the term "brainwash", seems more accurate

@JoshB for example, if you think: I'm god imagining the others to be sleeping, or those thoughts, it's all psycho. It's like thinking: Odin creates the earth after the fight against the giants and I have to die with a sword in my hand to go to paradise

Solipsism is true from an absolute perspective and false from a relative perspective. Both perspectives exist. If you think in solipsism being in a relative perspective, you are introducing psychotic ideas in your mind, like the Leo's video.

Not so easy, if fact quite difficult, placing yourself in the absolute perspective is done by first realizing that reality is unreal, of the total emptiness that underlies the appearance, then you realize the endless emptiness, and for that you have to be totally empty, without any mental grip, then the second step is to realize that in the emptiness is always you, and open that you, your true being, that expands limitlessly. that is the real, the absolute and what you or anything else is. It's not something obvious like oh, it was in front of my face and I didn't realize, then I did that neti neti thing and voila. no, there are energetic blockages, it's a real work.

The bottomless infinite abyss is full of you, that's what you are. Everything fades until becoming nothing if you spread it in infinity, except your essence. It never fades, it encompass all the infinity, the bottomless eternity, that's what you are .

Yes it can be, that means absolute, without opposite Nothing doesn't exist, the everything doesn't arise from the nothing, doesn't arise, exist without begining and end

The biggest attachment are the others. The others are the hell 😅. That's the human nature . Nowadays when the survival is more or less guaranteed, we are trying to make that the others are the heaven, be in harmony, like any other living being except the humans, that are a jail for themselves. Domination, dependence, fear, submission, power. That's the price of abandoning the garden of the Eden. In exchange we know a lot of things that means nothing, and we can live more time in the eternity, that also means nothing. Not so good business , but we are there. I guess that it's an evolutive step to other level of structure of being

You mean that the form is transitory and the substance, the being, the infinite potential, is immutable, then the first is " false" and the second is true, but nothing is not the correct word, would be better "everything" . Right now it's the eternity, and in the eternity is everything, the whole reality. You can perceive the whole reality right now, that means open yourself, you are that

If nothing is something, then it's something 😅. Why do you call it nothing?

Let's say that there are two dimensions of reality, the relative and the absolute. It is the same reality but seen from two different angles. From the relative perspective there is such a thing as consciousness, awareness, god and all that, from the absolute perspective there is only being. The relative perspective is very solid and very persistent, it creates a wall in order to be a relative perspective. If you want to place yourself in absolute perspective you must break that wall, this is an action, not an idea. This wall is not only mental structure, conceptual thought, it is also energetic. requires penetration. either you are a buddha-like meditator, or it requires psychedelics. what I see is possible is to place yourself in the absolute perspective for a few moments, and then the relative perspective softens, becomes less dense, less focused on the mental structure and more on the energetics, and the energy start to be open. But placing yourself permanently in absolute perspective seems impossible. It means stopping needing others. In the absolute perspective there are no others. I like others, writing here is being with others, we are human, the connection with others is essential. But I know that here I'm making a mistake because my attachment. The others, all of them, are in the absolute, in the being,

Its totally possible. The mental structure, as you have said, is reality, but it obscures the perception of the true nature of reality. reality is this eternal moment, but there is an extremely complex structure that creates form, movement, experience. It is impossible (imo) to completely get out of it since it is something real, the mental structure is just the point of the iceberg. but it is possible to see through it and stop perceiving oneself as form and do so as substance. the substance is immutable, unlimited, eternal, and you recognize yourself as it. You continue to be the form that perceives but you perceive your unlimited interior, and you realize that this is reality and for a moment you merge with it, you stop being the form and you are the total unlimited. It's something that requires intention and that is quite difficult. I can do for short moments using drugs, over all weed mix with LSD is very small doses. It's like the psyche dissapear, there is no more structure, no more barrier, then you perceive that this moment is the reality and what the reality is, it's you, but you in the sense of the substance, it's empty but it is everything, is unlimited but in all the unlimited, you are, and you are everything . There is not other there, but here there is other. It's like 2 realms, 2 dimensions of being. In the absolute there is never loneliness, in the relative, it is

Yes that is the mess, when you start t think about what is perceiver and perception. Anything that we think about it is just a mental structure, but behind of the mental structure is the real thing. The real thing can't be thought, because thoughts are structures that arises in it. The objetive is not silent your mind, is deactivate the energy of the thought to be able to open the mental structure. Then there is no more self, but still you are

There is always being, that's something, in fact it's everything. How could being be nothing? Nothing is not existing, and we exist.

True or false perception means nothing, the only difference is if your mental structure makes possible the dissolution of the self or not. In the moment that there is not self, there is not mental structure anymore. I think that we have to shape out conceptual structure in the direction of the openess, not of the truth, because there is not truth in the mental level, the mental level is just an arising that we could use to open our perception or to close it. It's a mess, because, who is using it? Etc. there are a lot of traps that prevent the dissolution

Control is relative, exist, but relatively to a form. If there are infinite forms it's like those forms means nothing as forms, same that the control, the control is form, absolute contains all the potential forms, and all the possible control, and in eternity potential and real are sinonimous, and that means that real and unreal are sinonimous, then control is the same than no control. Control is a relationship between two things, if you rise those two things to infinity power, the control is infinite that is sinonimous to no control. It's not a koan, it's obvious. If you see it you release the control and the need of understanding, then you can open yourself to the absolute

Existence makes its own decisions, but as they are infinite, they are not decisions. The unlimited can't be controlled, because control is a limit.

I only know that I know nothing because I know that knowing is nothing.

Don't underestimate the ego. The ego is a germinal software implanted by millions of years of evolution that programs itself taking elements that it finds as it develops. Their bases of fear and attachment are impossible to ignore, their need for acceptance the same. Your ego is very different from that of a 10th century Aztec, but its foundations are the same.

reality cannot be understood because "understanding" is an emergence that appears in reality, the same as whoever tries to understand. Absolute reality is one step behind, and you cannot understand a system from within the system, since understanding is a part of the system. It may seem like you understand reality, but at some point you realize that understanding means absolutely nothing. That does not mean that one is happy if they lock him up in an Afghan prison. It is much better to be in the Maldives with 2 models, one Ugandan and one Thai. both in love with your charisma and beauty. Well, it's my personal opinion, maybe others prefer the Afghan prison to purge their karma.

The thing of the eye of the hurricane could be a good metaphor, but for me it's more like if you have a barrier, a door, and you have to open it. The door is you, and it's you who want to open it, then it seems impossible. Then, in some moments you realize that there is not door anymore. At first in 2 seconds you start to think about it and triying to understand and you close again , it's like a change of vibration, because it's exactly the same here and now, but without the self. Then you educate yourself to don't close,.don't conceptualize, but anyway you do, then another time the openess happen, maybe longer, enough long to realize that you are that, but who "realize" things is the self, it's extremely difficult to don't get lost in the mind and create ideas in the very moment that you open yourself. You have to stop making differentiations like inside/outside, limited/unlimited, something/nothing, etc. the mind has to be tamed to be quiet. That's the real meditation, not silent the mind but dissolving the energetic barriers that the mind creates.