Breakingthewall

It is strange that never, not even once, have these yogis undertaken a scientific test of their prowess. I understand that they are far above something as crude as science, so stupid and naive, but as a condescension to the underdeveloped inferior Westerners, they could have the enormous condescension, at least once, to demonstrate their cheap magician tricks with a team of scientists testing.

The reality is the absolute being, the conciousness is the absolute being reflecting in itself, that is the relative experience. If the absolute being is not reflecting in itself, there is no,"happening" , then, as in any moment happening is, always happening is, because the option b isn't happening. Then, a speculation: Observing reality, we see that absolutely everything is cyclical. life, stars, atoms, universes. They begin and end, they are circular movement that ends where it began, since in an infinite frame there is no other final place to reach except the beginning. then we could deduce that the relative reflection of the absolute being in itself follows this same pattern. The being looks at itself and this reflection is like when you contrast two mirrors, it is infinite. Initially it is absolutely basic, and given its infinity it begins to coordinate synchronously with itself. infinite dimensions perfectly coordinated for the simple reason that what is not perfectly coordinated to infinity does not appear. It is an unmanifest possibility, the manifest is perfectly coordinated. This coordination creates increasingly complex forms, cycles within cycles to infinity, which increase in complexity until reaching infinite totality, looking directly at itself in a cosmic dance that branches without limit. At a given moment, the total cycle ends, the infinite structure that has reached infinite perfect coordination bursts and the dance of form begins again.

Yes of course, I mean that are the same in it's quality or substance. The point of spirituality is realizing what reality is. Reality could vibrate in many different ways, but its essence is always the same. As more open are you to your true nature, less anxious or suffering vibration . To be open to your true nature you have to abandon the relative perspective in some moments You are differentiating between you, who would be the source that produces the experience and the experience. like a projector and what it projects, this is a perspective, the relative one. If you place yourself in the absolute perspective, there is not perceptor VS perception, there is only reality. The configuration of the human experience has a genetic basis that is tend to the good, avoid the bad. It's impossible to avoid this, and along the life this closes you inevitably. The reason this is so is that it has been the most efficient configuration to reach this level of complexity, we already know what the problem is, the creation of a very unpleasant mental structure that constantly borders on madness, an imbalance that forces the movement and makes humans evolutionary machines In some cases, like yours, the individual decides to reverse that innate imbalance to balance in the now. The imbalance takes its impetus from the closing of the mind to what is perceived as negative, and the persecution of what is perceived as positive, this causes a constant movement that causes us to have vaccines and drop atomic bombs on cities. If you have made the decision to reverse the innate imbalance, at least to a certain extent, enough so that life is not an infernal race to nowhere, you must expand in the now, that is, becoming absolute. to do so you must eliminate the barriers that close you, you must hurry the whole cup, as they say. then existence changes frequency, it goes from being a skating race on the frozen surface of the lake (not without stimulating and beautiful challenges) and becomes an immersion in the depth of the lake. For me the ideal is to skate with art and aggression, seeking perfection, and at will melt the surface and dive into the lake, merge with it and be the lake. Why not have everything if you can? I think that the action of karma is a manifestation of intelligence. The relative perspective is the engine of the creation, without that there is only undefined being. Reality has the inevitable impulse of creation, as we could see, then the relative is inevitable. Samadhi is not no mind, it's absolute perspective. In absolute perspective there could be thoughts, in relative perspective there could be silence. It's a change of angle, not an effort to silence the mind. Absolute perspective means that there is not difference between you/not you, that difference is relative perspective, that isn't false, is relative. Absolute perspective can be at different levels of depth, because it's never totally absolute since we have a strong relative programming. In some points you could perceive the reality just as emanations, fluid movements than dance with itself without any observer, not definite forms, just fluid that coordinate within itrself perfectly, and recognize yourself as that from eternity. that recognition brings a different color and energy into life. you have access to the inexhaustible energy of reality, it flows into you directly, since that is what you are and there are no mental barriers that block it, this is pleasure and freedom by default Mentally more than teenager 😉. I can't avoid to put my finger in the eye of your ego, I'm sorry. But you are acting as a teacher saying extremely confusing things, and many people could get confused, then I put a little of weight in the other side of the balance to equilibrate a bit and avoid some psychosis 😅

My suffering is because talking with you make me suffer because you are too passive aggressive and false 🤣

Interesting attempt. I never tried that, I don't think it's necessary. I don't think you have to love the Japanese who stuck katanas in the vaginas of 12-year-old girls in front of their parents, like: oh yoshimura, even if you like to torture babies I love you, give me a hug, but rather see them as an impersonal force of reality, a movement caused by tides of reality that takes place, such as an accident or an illness. yoshimura is not a guy you can love or hate, it's the same as an earthquake or a plague, something that happens. Same than any other thing or human, humans are not different that things, anything is personal, is just movement. If you see in that way maybe you can see them without emotion For me the difficult thing is not love that guy, is accept the situation when I'm in the shit, the great suffering, desperation and loss, when life is darkness see the light, because everything is the same substance, you, everything are facets of you. Then, being human, accept the negative and be open to the positive at the maximum. If you deny the negative, deny the positive, you live in grey area.

I'd like to contemplate the real desperation in human life because it's wild. Our heart must accept it, if not the openess is impossible, it's like an intuition

Hahaha promise I didn't read that when I answered above

Yah yah, I understand your message, it's like all your messages in the forum, means: I'm better than you. Then now you will say,: peace brother 🤣 you are wonderful And yes I remember tears of happiness but I thought you mean crying of sadness. Talk about of tears of happiness sound to me very like: oh I'm so profound and full of joy that I confuse and I thought that you didn't mean that. Yes all people cries of joy even watching movies or listening music, in psychedelic too, its a normal emotion

😭🤣 Don't you see that it's a fragment of a history from the second world war where the Japanese torture American prisoners? It's an horrible history that when you read it you perceive the harshness of life', the real pain, the cross and the desperation of life. Something interesting to contemplate Can't you feel how you are in the basket? You are a guy of 20 years old tortured before to be drown in the sea slowly. Can you taste the water? The desperation, the horror?

The atrocity of the baskets of pigs, when the Japanese make to 200 prisoners almost died of thirst and then drown them in the sea, life is a hard game: At beginning of October 1942 when my father and I walked over the main road near the coffee and rubber plantation Sumber Sewu, laying on the ridge of the Mount Semeru, when we heard trucks from a distance coming our way. We quickly hid behind the coffee bushes laying higher up than the road, (alas) we could see everything quite well. We saw 5 open trucks, they were loaded with bamboo baskets with therein laying white men. We heard the men screaming and crying for water and for help in English and Dutch. The baskets were piled up on the open trucks, they were driving direction Banyuwangi. I was 15 years old and so I could fully understand what was happening there in front of my eyes, but what touched me so much deeper were the voices of the desperate men begging for help and water. I was hiding behind my father and I heard him softly saying; “Oh my God”. We slowly walked home but over another road, neither of us said a word. There were no words for what we both had seen and heard… After the war, I often wanted to talk with my father about that drama we had seen together. Had the Indonesians from Sumber Sewu seen those trucks? I shall never know.”

Really? Last time I cried was a couple or 3 years ago. I was so full of sadness because a family thing that now provokes me laughing, about my father, who was an a joke of person, something very weird, then I thought absolutely true: I wish I never existed. Then I was absolutely desperate, in the absolute darkness, full of hate towards life. Fucking pathetic narcissist I was, crying because life is shit, and life is the absolute glory. It's a movement to up, to the openess, to prepare your heart to receive the power of existence alive.

Reality is what is. Being means reality. Being is conscious of itself, if not it wouldn't be, and it is. It can't scape from being, it's impossible. The reality is. When you realize first time , with psychedelic for example, that you are the naked reality, and you can't scape never in the eternity of the fact of being, could be the most horrible realization possible. Worse than any hell, it's the cosmic horror. You are trapped in yourself now, always is now and it wont never end. Hehehehe. Only remembering it I feel sick. But then the thing happens. The now breaks itself and show it's depth, and is Depth is the total glory. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Open your heart and be the absolute glory of existing. The total bright of the freedom.

Yeah because the issue is not silence and all that, it is changing the processing level from limited to unlimited. The structured mind works at the limited level, all schemes, lines, opposites, geometry, dimensions. The unlimited mind is liquid, expanded, fluid. So, trying to make a negative schema in the limited mind, like: nothing is real, in my opinion contracts, closes, limits and represses. absolute reality is without opposite, therefore "nothing is real" means nothing without "everything is real", therefore it means nothing and try to put it in the mental scheme is crazy , never works Don't cry 😭 I love you, you have not beard

Mind or no mind is exactly the same! The mind in silence is not different than the mind talking, silence or noise are just different facets of the reality. Silent the mind doesn't leads to the openess, the openess could happen with some talking The source is in the thoughts, there is not a source and the thoughts, you thinking are an appearance, you in silence are another appearance, both are facets of the reality. The reality now is bottomless, it's infinite alive, samadhi is all time, there is not samadhi, just levels of openenss Bull shit. Nothing really exist blablabla😴😭 fucking mystics scammers. What is the difference between "truly exist" or "not truly exist"? Be so mystic with a beard and followers? Ufff I'm going to write a poem titled: Killing the yogis with beard with an iron bar for pleasure while I'm singing. Nothing exist vs exist is just a conceptual difference that doesn't means absolutely nothing, is just idea, concept. Tell the people: "nothing really exist" means: I'm going to try to change your mental structure to make a mess in your mind and hopefully a psychosis

The something doesn't comes , it's absolute, it exists without beginning, "comes from nothing" implies Beginning of the infinity. What I meant is that a thought is the same than everything else, a thought is the infinity, the whole thing There is nothing different than the reality, a point in the empty space is the whole infinity, a though, anything, nothing is "another thing" of "just a thought" Darkness or light are appearances in the infinity, the infinity is not "something", or "nothing", or any dimension, it's the reality, in the reality emptiness could appear, but that emptiness is permeated of the nature of the reality. That nature is you, nothing different than you, only this exist, it's the absolute being, that is the absolute source because has not limits, void or empty means nothing, are the same, light, dark, full, something, nothing, all are. Be mean that are everything, nothing is except the being, what is not the being doesn't exist, it's absolutely obvious, the nothingness is the being then it's exactly the same than a rat, or a thought, or a galaxy, different dimensions between infinite dimensions

How could be empty if there is something? Even an illusion is something, or a thought. Imagine the emptiness without limits, an absolute abyss of emptiness. Then just a thought appears, just the minimal mirage. Then , this mirage would fill the absolute emptiness, because there is nothing else, this mirage will be infinite, without limits, this mirage is you, and it's not a mirage, is everything. The abyss has not bottom, then only a micron of being, that's you, is going to impregnate everything and amplifying, rising to the absolute power. It's impossible that there is nothing because there is everything rise to infinity infinitely. That's what we are, it's not a concept, it's something that you can't feel, realize, quite easy. Just removing any hindrance, fear, barriers

There is only one thing: the infinity. Everything is the infinity and there is nothing out of it, then, any emptiness is the infinity, then contains everything, it's the infinite potential, it's what you are, there is no difference between the emptiness and a human or a stone, everything is the infinity that exist, enlightenment is just realizing what you are, it's absolutely obvious. What is not so obvious is understanding the dance of cosmos, but what you are is, just open your mind. Open, not empty. It's different, empty closes, castrates the mind, is a Buddhist mistake. That's why all of them seems so castrated, dead.

Fake. Nothingness doesn't exist. The thing is absolutely obvious, the reality is unlimited, and because this it is. You are, that's the "mystery", but itsnt a mystery, because is the inevitable consequence of the absence of limits. If you expand the void to infinity, it's full, absolutely full of you, the existence, the inexhaustible source. There are not limits, the nothingness is limited, and sadhguru....well, I don't know, i was listening this about nothingness, the galaxies etc, and is he joking? He doesn't understand nothing! The reality is not the matter or the energy, is the existence, the being. Any empty point in the space is infinite and full of everything. Everything is infinite, that's why everything is alive

Rumi is absolutely authentic. Where Rumi said that reality is nothing? Show. Do you compare Rumi whit a clown as Osho or Krishnamurti? Don't you see the difference? I think that you see, it's too obvious Krishnamurti over all is wonderful, it's a real artist of the fake. Osho is totally narcissist, very smart, maybe a genius, not maybe , a genius, but closed to the real source. He feeds of attention, is oxygen to him, and his mashamadi was just suicide with drugs , because was a man who suffered Don't be naive, the world is full of devils. Being open is not the same than being idiot 🤣

Reality is not empty, is full of being. Emptiness is a límited appearance in the reality, real emptiness is just impossible, because the being is inexhaustible, then fills the infinity, it's total.

There are ideas that open and another that closes. Many teachers are just scammers , narcissist who pursues attention and money. They are a hindrance in real spirituality, real shit because they preach the truth and are full of lies. Krishnamurti is a good example, but probably Osho is the same. It's not difficult at all learning the fundaments of enlightenment and even believe that you are enlightened, and go to preach being a fake. Probably most of them don't realize what they are, the ego is a wonderful mechanism, first lie yourself then you can lie the others more efficiently But anyway, If you want to believe everyone, listen speech of Mussolini to improve your spirituality, sure it's useful

Then I should believe the scammers? Bad idea imo

In the first video he said, empty your cup, it's the highest intelligence. Ah, so smart, it's first of spirituality, then, when the cup is empty, what he perceive? Nothing, he doesn't say nothing because his cup isn't empty because he's a scam. In second video he doesn't say absolutely nothing, using a so interesting attitude. Can't you perceive that he's fake? Anyone knows that of empty your cup, it's so obvious, but nobody pays us for that, but he was rich because that bullshit

Post here some intelligent fragment of Krishnamurti, let's see how intelligent he is. I think he's 99% fake King of contradiction what means? That he want to mock you?

I don't know Buddha, why Buddha? But Krishnamurti and Ralston seem narcissistic clowns that talk to appear mysterious and superior , very swallow speech without truth. Osho , well, I think he talks to appear smart more than to communicate, in his speech is a lot of ego. Watch the video that you posted, it's obvious that his objetive is appearing superior than his interviewer.