Breakingthewall

something obviously disturbing about sadhguru is that according to him all indian traditions, without exception, have a real and legitimate basis. ayurvedic medicine, funeral rites, theories about reincarnation, etc. but only indian traditions. that is, bleeding the sick with leeches or going on a pilgrimage to mecca no, but doing certain indian rites according to him makes it easier for your relative to move on to a phase of existence after death, better, whatever, but only indian ones, no sacrificing children by ripping out their hearts to make it rain, no, eating mercury yes, bury alive one year yes, go to the paradise with the Virgins no. Baptism to avoid the hell no, but yoga to go to nirvana yes. Shit, they are better than the others! What about the untouchables? Could they go to nirvana? Edit: he's against the castes and believe in the unity of india as a nation independent of religion. His project seems more political than mystic. It's legit, it's not intently bad trying to improve a nation . He's very difficult to understand because he's theoretically a mystic but over all a politician. Both could be together, why not?

No because the I that you perceive is just this concrete experience, if you where me, you weren't "you" anymore, except if you call "you" the fact of being a perceptor that perceives a perception, then all of us are the same: a center of perception. But that's nothing, just a point in nowhere. If you call "you" to the absolute, the whole reality that is, then you and me are the same, but that's not a "you", is the source, the positive push that exists, then it's already everything, "you" wont be me because you already are me

Exactly, and all people would say: ohhhhhh genius, of course he knows the 84 universes, no doubt

Why? He's very smart and workholic, very focused, strong energy, clean mind. He's not the average guy, for sure, but that's different than be able to protect you from demons and make you enlightened with his sole presence.

Not small issue. And for encouraging that he says that he is a super human with super powers that knows the 84 universes and can be buried without breathing for 1 year, and that he would beat Superman with one hand

Sometimes I see sadhguru and every movement of his head, every tender/happy movement of his hands , every word, seem to me absolute evilness 🤣. But other times seems the opposite. Maybe he's Satan 🤣🤣

🤣🤣Yes, he implies many times that Islam is shit and indian tradition is the best.

Really that's not important, what is important is if those millions of followers are going to rise their level of consciousness or not. Then, when they were enough conciouss, they will realize all the bullshit 😅

He's very nationalist because he thinks that is very important for india being unite, have national identity, pride of their tradition and history because anything else would be chaos. India is huge and very complex, probably he's right in his approach. Modi is a charismatic leader that seem that will rule india for long, then be against him is stupid, better triying to influence in him and collaborate with him

That of the mistake was just humorous response, light conversation. Anyway if you look close what sadhguru says he says a lot of simplicities and mistakes because he talks a lot. For example with Ralph he said: nowadays we have a lot of technology and we are more destructive than ever. Yes sure, in the Roman empire everyone was so kind and vegan. But the point is not what sadhguru says is his essence, that's the thing that we should to understand.

Conclusions (for now) after 3 days of full time obsessive thinking about sadhguru: fucking genius. Sadhguru has a mission, which is to raise the collective consciousness, more specifically that of India, and unite India, reinforce its identity and give it strength and self-esteem as a nation. Sadhguru is enlightened in quite a deep way, that does not imply that he knows the 84 universes and their past lives. That is bullshit and he knows it perfectly. Enlightenment is the expansion of your consciousness without limit, the breaking of the barriers of your mind and the opening of your being to the absolute, and the rest are stories necessary to enter the collective unconscious of India. Without those stories there is no mainstream in India. Sadhguru is a fox and he uses lies in a country of lies, and he constantly leaves clues about what he does. When he speaks he does it because he wants students willing to give their lives because to open your being to the absolute you must be willing to do this, abandon yourself totally. mashamadi doesn't exist 95%. most of sadhguru's students are young, he wants them to be capable of a real breakout, and their inner engineering is masterfully designed for that. yoga is real, and he is a true master. about his wife's business, i imagine something like this: narendra? it's jaggi. a big shit. -so? - when i got home i found x dead, two boxes of valium. since the girl was born she became hysterical, women, you know. i made a mistake with a young girl and she found out, she couldn't bear it, a big shit, if this it is known, bye, the indian public would never accept it. i have an idea, mashamadi. - are you crazy? people will suspect - let them suspect, india is a country of lies and superstition, as you know. Without lies and superstition we are out of the game here, we have a mission and it is a united, strong, spiritual, proud India with a future, and this is not going to stop us. -What balls you have jaggi. -Of course, of steel, narendra, same than you. See you.

God is the reality. The humans are the reality, the reality are infinite dimensions of one essence. Each human is a dimension and inside each human are infinite other dimensions, all them perfectly synchronized to infinity power. The perfection and magnitude of cosmos is impossible of understand, just possible to intuit. There is not any god separated of this, this reality alive is the reality, but it's manifestations are infinite, like infinite bubbles that arise and develops. Nothing is "wrong", because everything that is fits perfectly in the infinite tapestry. The human mind should humiliate and loose it's arrogance, recognizing that it's impossible to understand with the human preferences. Of course, my preference is a utopia in nature with happy kids and not Stalingrad siege, but this is Stalingrad, then open our heart to Stalingrad siege. That's humility, everything else closes , humility opens. Our preference is just human programming, absolutely useless to grasp the essence or the reality, useful only to human survival

@M A J I all that you said is just your projection. Your will, not the god will. The god will was that Hitler invaded Russia and that the Americans thrown two atomic bombs in two populated cities, that the seas are contaminated and the humans raised and industrial civilization. Because it's what happened. Gods will is the movement of the reality, and not a single subatomic particle moves without the perfect synchrony of the entire infinite cosmos. Judge sadhguru according the archetype of what should be a yogi is absolutely superficial, you should forget all that you think that you know and open your mind to the living reality, then you would start to perceive what the reality is. Forget those utopia, alive reality is what it is, and maybe (just maybe) sadhguru is much more than he seems. For me he's an enigma, I'm open to the possibility that he's a total scammer or a genius. Yesterday @Ishanga posted a video where shadguru said that you are responsible of the reality that happens. I told him that that's self help bullshit, but the fact is that it's real, you have to take the responsibility of the reality that happens because you are that reality, I totally feel this in every moment. What I think is that saying that to the people is useless, but maybe it isn't, maybe is starts a butterfly effect that reach the deep areas of the psyche. Judge too fast is always, absolutely always, a mistake, and show superficial perception. We are here triying to see deeper, and for that we have to open our mind and our heat to everything

I respect a lot your insight, then I have to try. Let's see

Really? I think he has a big part of narcissism like a kid and he lies s sometimes when he talked about enlightenment , but who knows. Be careful, superficial judgement seem very true to who's superficial, and no one knows that he's superficial, that's the magic of the deception. More superficial, less willing to get deeper because you think that you already know everything Well yes, you could also kill your wife and then say that she did mashamadi.

@Ishanga anyway, when sadhguru says that you have the responsibility of what is happening in your life, I agree, but it's the same than saying: everything is perfect. You can't know that because anyone says, it's a perception that has to happen. Sadhguru says many things about enlightenment very coherent, sometimes I think he's real deal, other he's the best liar ever. I don't know, but don't get defensive, we only want to know, not to believe. Those claims kinda: he planted many trees, means nothing, I know how deep could be the lies, it's fascinating the human nature, lie behind lie behind lie, then let's be eskeptical, at least I think we should be

Sure it works, any yoga works. I mean if when he's talking about mashamadi, reincarnation, cosmos, he's liying. Just that. Could you see the point? Brain wash. Putting a invented cosmos in your mind that now you accept as real and it is a mockery. Just the possibility

Anyone who's cheating millions and brainwashing millions to be venerated as a super human, inventing lie after lie that goes in the mind of the people as they were realities would be a criminal in my opinion, because he's stealing the freedom of the mind to millions. Maybe I'm a criminal too because sometimes I do psychedelic, could be 😅

One thing is humility and other believe anything that anyone claims. Why should I believe that mashamadi is real when there is no one case documented about it? Look for example yogananda, who died in a dinner in the Indian embassy in San Francisco, then now it's admitted that he did mashamadi. What are those indian mystics? Is there any single truth in their claims?

It's what it seems, but I want to understand him really. If he's a scammer, as you affirm, he's very fearless. His claims are insane, he claims that he's a magic avatar , he is influencing to millions. Read here, people think that mashamadi, of course, is very normal and possible. If he's a liar as he seem, he's a real criminal

mashamadi exist? Anyone in the history of human kind has dissolved ? Sure? Is there a wheel of incarnations? maybe it's just religion, just an idea. That what I mean with sadhguru as a religious leader, he claims many things. Are real?

mashamadi exist? Anyone in the history of human kind has dissolved ? Sure? Is there a wheel of incarnations, maybe it's just religion, just an idea. That what I mean with sadhguru as a religious leader, he claims many things. Are real?

mashamadi exist? Anyone in the history of human kind has dissolved ? Sure? Is there a wheel of incarnations? maybe it's just religion, just an idea. That what I mean with sadhguru as a religious leader, he claims many things. Are real?

Not you, but others maybe. according sadhguru of course. But who knows what he really thinks or is. What's sure is that he is a very powerful influence

Well, many enlightened of all times have become teachers. Buddha, etc. The thing is that seems that sadhguru has invented a method for increasing the level of consciousness on thousands (according to him) that needs that you give to him your will, and for that he has created a character like a divine avatar with super powers, but not with the intention of abuse but the real opening of the energetic blockages of people that otherwise never would be able to do that, then maybe he's a real genius