Breakingthewall

How could be you without form? You mean being the absolute, then never happen, just existing. But then there wouldn't time, just absolute existence. For ever? There is not for ever because there is not time. It's impossible to think in it or understanding it. If now there is a límited form, the only possible deduction is that always would be a limited form, because if it stops being, then you will be the absolute for ever, and it's not the case because you are a limited form. Can't be for ever eternity after next month, then it's not eternity, has a beginning, then has an end

Yes but how to go deep enough to understand what is that process that is happening and where it leads, what are the mechanics of the cosmos. There is possible to know such things, or are just fantasies? Reincarnation, etc. Some says that they remember past lifes and they know exactly why this life is happening and where this leads. Maybe it's true, maybe no. But could be true

Do you mean after death? Is it possible to know such thing? I'm open to the possibility that it's impossible to know anything

Spiritual work is to dissolve fear, the barrier and open ourselves without limits, so that our spirit stops being contracted and expands. You have to look reality in the face, it is as if you were facing an abyss and you are afraid. real fear, terror. You want to be clinging to your mother's breast and never let go of it. No, you are floating in the void, without references, you must open yourself to that without any reservation. It's so scary that you see that you have to go there, that's the way. Fear is manifested as mental flow, mental flow defines us, creates a capsule that traps us, then we live inside of that capsule of meaning and definition. Meaning and definition are illusion, reality is open, and in openenss everything expands until it dissapear, only the substance remains. Absence of fear is absence of limits, and this is the first step to realize what we are. I'm not saying I totally open and I'm one with the absolute as Buddha btw, just that I know how to open the mind to that direction, it's something that anyone who's interested in spirituality should do

There is one point that makes the difference in spiritual work, and that is to open yourself. this is the key. In you is reality, the source of existence. It is not love, bliss, or whatever, it is you, so, if you fit in with yourself, the dissonance of anxiety that accompanies you every second disappears. There is only one path, the one that leads to yourself, and there is only one way to find yourself, opening the barriers that close you. It's like a game, you have to be serious to play it, if not you don't do anything

That sounds a real trip . I never considered that kind of exploration, the only psychedelic that I do lately is DMT to open the mind and sometimes weed to contemplate the life, and before 5meo to break my disgusting ego. But that what you mentioned seems deep. I only did trips to free myself, never to really "trip" , but reading you I felt that maybe there is a world to explore, a lot of depth to see. Sound fascinating

That about everything is love....well, could bullshit in my opinion in most of cases. Let's see, you can reach an opening of yourself that makes being you a pleasure, constantly feeling the flow of existence and seeing that you are floating in the living infinity that vibrates around you and you are that. to have a constant feeling of openness, life, bliss. But of course, if they tell you that you have two cancers and you're also going to go blind, and you're also going to go to a prison in the Congo, then maybe all that love stuff doesn't seem so clear anymore. But I guess that it depends of your level of openess to the absolute. The absolute is absolute joy, absolute creative power, absolute life. If you are totally open to it, anything could be ok We are lost in the abyss, people doesn't realize, you realize it, that why you are searching. We can open ourself , feel the totality and remove the circumstancial, be in the absolute. There is the only possible choice, anything else is madness . Life is going to test us, this is not kindergarten , nothing is guaranteed

@Evelyna @Evelyna means is that there is narcissism in you, or that whats I understand reading. Narcissism is a barrier that blocks our path. If you want to open yourself to the unlimited, narcissism must be left out. We all have narcissism, and the most narcissistic thing is not seeing your own narcissism. You have to accept it and laugh at it, then it stops sticking to you like a parasite. With narcissism you can't open the door, you have to humble yourself to open it.

Solipsism says that the people you talk to are not real, they do not have their own existence, they are just flat mental images, like drawings you make on paper. So, you make some drawings on a piece of paper and then spend 30 thousand hours telling them that they are not real, that they are drawings. good! So, maybe, in addition to being solipsistic, you are, let's say... crazy? possible! Imagine Tom Hanks on the desert island, after making a doll out of a coconut, he spends the next 35 years telling the coconut that it's not real. well, it looks like fun But one step more: tom is trying to convince the coconut that he, the imaginary coconut, is inventing Tom Hanks. Well, seems quite serious, medication is needed

Just open the fucking door in yourself. Are you honest enough? Generous enough? Smart enough? I think you could be. Any other way is going to be madness for you. You have to do it , you will see , but it's not easy, you have to put everything.

Why not? The experience is happening. Where is the experience happening? In the existence. If the experience stops, the existence stops? No. The existence can't stop because it is not happening. But the experience can stop because it's happening. Classic example: deep sleep, or death, or anesthesia. Imagine that right now the experience becomes a black without anything else. Then there is no time. Is not existence? It's exactly the same existence than in the normal experience, the totality, the absolute. If you understand this, you are enlightened, but it's not easy, it's not a conceptual understanding, you have to open a door that is closed

What I said is that there is existence beyond the experience, the experience is a manifestation of the absolute, the absolute is not an experience. You can define the experience, is the movement that happens, the absolute is not happening. Imagine that there is no change, no movement, would be experience? No. but would be existence? Yes.

I didn't say that, I said that in the past I searched a kind of "spiritually and intellectually compatible " that was not compatible with sex flow, then I had sex flow with who wasn't not compatible in that sense according to me in that moment, but now i see "spiritually compatible " in a very different way, much more intuitive. Nothing about whores and that

You have to open the experience to realize the absolute. You're supposed to be interested in spirituality, right? Why do you think there is an experience? what is its origin? What are you before there was experience? The absolute cannot be thought, you can be open to it, it is like opening a dimension in you that was closed. Why do you think they say that: the tao that can be said is not the true tao? Do you think they were stupid or were they acting interesting? There have been people who have realized the absolute at any time

There is existence beyond the experience, the experience is the manifestation of the absolute. The absolute is not an experience, that the difficult point. It's very difficult to understand , meditation is needed. The absolute is the source of experience, or where experience happens. The experience is the absolute reflecting in itself you seem a smart one

I respect everyone, I never would have sex with anyone I don't respect, that's sick shit Romantic sexual relationship is something genetically encoded whose purpose is reproduction. That white thing that comes out of the dick is for that 😅. Everything else, attraction, communication, the bonds that are established, are adaptations of the psyche to the given vital moment, modifications of the same pattern: the reproductive impulse. When you fuck with someone, even if you use a condom, all your pleasure, communication, sensations are aimed at reproduction. Another thing is that you are not aware of it. The more conscious you are, the more carefully you choose your partner. The last time I had casual sex with someone who didn't really fit what I'm looking for, I couldn't sleep for two nights. A few years ago, sometimes I would go to parties with some people and fuck with 3 girls in one night without even knowing their names, and I would leave there absolutely happy. Now it would seem unthinkable to me like a dirty sick shit that creates horrible karma.

Something similar has happened to me, with women with whom sex flowed perfectly, on an intellectual and spiritual level, something was missing. Over time I realized that the one who was missing something was me, my masculinity wasn't complete, I was looking for a type of relationship, friendship, complicity, that is not compatible with the romantic sexual relationship man/woman. Perhaps this sounds sexist but for the romantic sexual relationship to work, the man must be complete and assume his role as a man, that is, not look for a partner/accomplice/mother/friend in the woman to take care of him and you care of her, but rather a female to whom than honor her femininity by making love her with the intention/possibility of making her a son and with the intention and capacity of being strong, whole, solid and never weak. I mean, your sexual romantic partner is not your friend, it's different type of relationship. It's a selfish relationship in the two sides with the purpose of making a family, starting a clan, continue your genetic line. Then it's a shit 🤣😅 but it's what it is. Kinda old times, that's why they invented something so horrible than the marriage. But if you are very lucky, who knows, maybe you find one and your souls merge and be one, thats beautiful, at least for some time Then the question would be: do you want that game, or not? Not simple game imo

we need serious people with whom we can discuss enlightenment, or perhaps the topic is exhausted? I don't think so. It's just starting.

The whole issue of spirituality is to increase the identification, perception, of your essence and decrease the identification with your circumstance. At a certain point you may realize that the difference between you, Hitler and a fish is merely circumstantial, you are essentially the same. So you realize that your essence is immortal, and your circumstance has a relative importance that becomes zero when you are dead, but your absolute essence is reality itself, and remains immutable. If you are totally identified with your circumstance, as it's usual, this sounds weird and impossible, but if you are not so , sounds more normal and real. The spiritual work is moving yourself to that direction until you are one with the absolute and the circumstance is irrelevant (not my case ofc)

I never call clown to Ramana maharshi, neither leo , I'm using his forum so I'm thankful, and that Adams I don't know who is him. What I mean by openness to the absolute is that what we really are is the absolute, but the absolute is not an experience, it is the nature of reality itself, the existence. Experience is the absolute reflecting on itself infinitely, and this reflection veils the true nature of reality, you perceive yourself as the experience, not the nature of the experience. Opening the experience means accessing a dimension that is hidden by the movement, the absolute dimension or the nature of reality. It is hidden by yourself, by experience, apparent movement. To open the apparent movement you must stop it as much as possible, go deeper into yourself, then your true nature begins to manifest, it shines through the experience more and more, this is opening yourself to your essential nature.

I never said that but anyone knows that enlightenment is open yourself to the absolute, that is the nature of reality.

Good to read that from someone who's really in the path and not playing

Anyone reading these conversations will think this is a schizophrenic forum. If he believes that you are imaginary, why does he want to convince you that he is imaginary? Does this make any sense? Furthermore, enlightenment is not knowing that others are imaginary, it is opening yourself to the authentic nature of reality.

And that experience made you realizing that it's impossible to be experience out of your experience? Why? And why that is important?

It must be taken into account here that the only reason why people think that it is impossible for experience to exist outside your field of consciousness is because a YouTube guy has said it with great confidence, stating before that he has a direct line to God, like Muhammad. People are mentally weak, and gullible, so they believe these dogmas of faith and build their mental structure around them