Breakingthewall

I respect a lot your insight, then I have to try. Let's see

Really? I think he has a big part of narcissism like a kid and he lies s sometimes when he talked about enlightenment , but who knows. Be careful, superficial judgement seem very true to who's superficial, and no one knows that he's superficial, that's the magic of the deception. More superficial, less willing to get deeper because you think that you already know everything Well yes, you could also kill your wife and then say that she did mashamadi.

@Ishanga anyway, when sadhguru says that you have the responsibility of what is happening in your life, I agree, but it's the same than saying: everything is perfect. You can't know that because anyone says, it's a perception that has to happen. Sadhguru says many things about enlightenment very coherent, sometimes I think he's real deal, other he's the best liar ever. I don't know, but don't get defensive, we only want to know, not to believe. Those claims kinda: he planted many trees, means nothing, I know how deep could be the lies, it's fascinating the human nature, lie behind lie behind lie, then let's be eskeptical, at least I think we should be

Sure it works, any yoga works. I mean if when he's talking about mashamadi, reincarnation, cosmos, he's liying. Just that. Could you see the point? Brain wash. Putting a invented cosmos in your mind that now you accept as real and it is a mockery. Just the possibility

Anyone who's cheating millions and brainwashing millions to be venerated as a super human, inventing lie after lie that goes in the mind of the people as they were realities would be a criminal in my opinion, because he's stealing the freedom of the mind to millions. Maybe I'm a criminal too because sometimes I do psychedelic, could be 😅

One thing is humility and other believe anything that anyone claims. Why should I believe that mashamadi is real when there is no one case documented about it? Look for example yogananda, who died in a dinner in the Indian embassy in San Francisco, then now it's admitted that he did mashamadi. What are those indian mystics? Is there any single truth in their claims?

It's what it seems, but I want to understand him really. If he's a scammer, as you affirm, he's very fearless. His claims are insane, he claims that he's a magic avatar , he is influencing to millions. Read here, people think that mashamadi, of course, is very normal and possible. If he's a liar as he seem, he's a real criminal

mashamadi exist? Anyone in the history of human kind has dissolved ? Sure? Is there a wheel of incarnations? maybe it's just religion, just an idea. That what I mean with sadhguru as a religious leader, he claims many things. Are real?

mashamadi exist? Anyone in the history of human kind has dissolved ? Sure? Is there a wheel of incarnations, maybe it's just religion, just an idea. That what I mean with sadhguru as a religious leader, he claims many things. Are real?

mashamadi exist? Anyone in the history of human kind has dissolved ? Sure? Is there a wheel of incarnations? maybe it's just religion, just an idea. That what I mean with sadhguru as a religious leader, he claims many things. Are real?

Not you, but others maybe. according sadhguru of course. But who knows what he really thinks or is. What's sure is that he is a very powerful influence

Well, many enlightened of all times have become teachers. Buddha, etc. The thing is that seems that sadhguru has invented a method for increasing the level of consciousness on thousands (according to him) that needs that you give to him your will, and for that he has created a character like a divine avatar with super powers, but not with the intention of abuse but the real opening of the energetic blockages of people that otherwise never would be able to do that, then maybe he's a real genius

Then maybe he's an enlightened and a genius. That's why I said he's an enigma, but maybe he's just a fake. Very interesting dilemma Anyway, someone who lies....

Not agree, the past is real. There are real energetic pathways built into your psyche as solid as a stone wall. All that focusing on the present, Eckhart Tolle philosophy, never works for the simple reason that the structure of the human psyche doesn't work that way. They want to simplify what is not simple. If you want to change the energetic pathways of your psyche, you have to do it violently and constantly, because they are solidly set up. What you can do is fool yourself in many ways believing that you did a real change when it's just illusion

The problem with sadhguru is that he is useful in the sense that yoga is useful, then he's selling yoga that's very good for the people, the energy and everything, then to sell yoga he's creating a character very magnetic, the omniscient magic avatar. It's like saying the kids that santa Claus exist, it's not bad, it's good for them, then they are happy. But we are not kids, we want the real thing, the total, absolute opening to the total reality, without anything else,. absolute enlightenment to the absolute light of existence. Alleluha! And if someone is telling histories for kids , he's an hindrance, a terrorist, a son of a bitch, a real devil. Like Muhammad right? This book is written directly by god. Just a small lie for the greater good, what's bad in that? They are just kids. What could get wrong? Son of a bitch of the hell. Only the truth is allowed, anything else is evilness

@Ishanga look, Do you think I wouldn't like there to be a truly enlightened guy who knew all the secrets of the cosmos and came here to tell them? Of course I would, that would be wonderful. But I look at that guy under a microscope, and as I do so I see more and more possibilities of it being a funny and brilliant joke. Don't you realize that saying: use your trauma to grow! Is that so simple? It's fake, it's obvious, accompanied by measured gestures, eye drops, slow, exact head movements, jovial and tender hand movements at the same time. Fucking genius! Master! Boss! I bow before him, his impudence, his courage. But let's give a place for the doubt

I love you too. Agree, I'm sharp as a blade 🤣

What did he say? That you should take advantage of the shit to improve in life instead to be blocked. That's obvious, anyone would try that, but they can't. It's not so simple, it's a simplistic vision

In my opinion this talk is totally cheap self help. Take the responsibility, use the trauma, blablah, I could go to the book shop and take any book of self help and would be deeper. He talks just obvious easy logical talk. 👎. To the crocodiles.

Sure, being impaled along with my entire family because Suleiman the Magnificent didn't like me requires all of infinity to be perfectly coordinated in its infinite dimensions, with every subatomic particle in its exact place, creating endless butterfly effects that reverberate into eternity. But personally, I'd prefer it happen to you.

You can't know what sadhguru is, it's a real enigma, if you judge too fast you will be wrong, don't overestimate your perception

You don't need that for real trauma, It could be enough if your mother is Beyonce for example, human relationship, attachment, need of acceptance, are real thing, maybe worse than being in gaza. Anyone who doesn't understand that is superficial imo

It's not correct if we talk about real trauma. You can't forget real trauma at will, it's not a decision, it's extremely difficult process that most of people never could really do. Real fear, real wounds are impressed by fire in your being. Sadhguru never had a real trauma, he's a rich handsome successful guy without any real problem in life. I'd like to see sadhguru in Auschwitz, let's see how he is

We are trying to know is sadhguru is true or he's liying. It's not relative, it's absolute.

I stopped that video when he said: trauma is a excuse to don't be better, when something bad happen you have two choices, being wounded or becoming wise. This is silly, stupid. Real trauma gets into your psyche and becomes part of your being. Real abuse, real fear, is buried under many layers of psychological self-defense to remain functional and not collapse. Saying what he say sounds great, but it's stupid. Release the real trauma is extremely difficult, you have to go to the roots of your psyche, sadhguru don't know what he's talking about. I tried to listen all but when he started with the identification...omg. then, you are perfect in this moment, why are you suffering? Because you identify with your body etc. Typical self help that never works. It's much more complicated, the structure of the psyche that is build over genetic basis, the fear to rejection, the trauma....