Breakingthewall

Exactly why? Because the rejection due this war of do you mean always

You can evoke images or sounds, but not see or hear them. You evoke them up because you've seen or heard them before; otherwise, it would be impossible Why not? Limitless means that there are

Really? I can't imagine anything, if I try I see just black. It's like I know what green is but I can't see it in my mind, same than anything else. For example if I try to imagine the face of someone that I know it's like I imagine the presence of that person, but nothing visual, just black. Are you sure that you can made a visual image just wanting to see it? The body is the source of the experience. The body is an structure that make this experience in this frequency. You could do a simple experience, remove your eyes with a knife, then you will realize that your experience is now different, it's in another frequency But this doesn't mean that I think that the body is something "material", or limited, the body is interdimensional, it's a node of relations that is happening unlimited, branched to infinity. Then if I see other bodies it's obvious to think that they are other dimensions of existence

Try it seriously, imagine an apple. Do that exercise. You think that you can imagine an apple, but you can't. You can think that you are imagining an apple, but do you see it in your mind? Can you imagine the green? Sit in silence and try it

Do you think that the jews in US are scared by the fact of being Jews?

Follow your instinct, it's the only possible guide.

Half of the world's Jews live outside Israel and do not feel threatened at all.

Israel is surrounded by enemies who wish to annihilate it, so its mental health as a country is what you would have if you were surrounded by neighbors who wish to kill you. You would become somewhat reactive.

Then how do you know that the other people haven't their own experience?

Solipsism means that only you have an experience and the people that you see and talk to are imaginary and have not real experience, are just images that you are creating for different reasons.

Really I can't imagine an apple. You could try, close your eyes and imagine an apple. It's impossible. You can remember the idea of an apple, but not a apple. No apples are going to appear in your mind, try it and you will see.

If the substance of reality is conciousness, why forms and universes arise? And you, as a concrete structure of the reality now, become concious of your unlimited nature beyond the form. Without form reality wouldn't be concious of itself, it's impossible. Consciousness needs form.

Then why if you are in god mode with 5 meo you can't create an apple or levitate?

Then you had an awakening that was that people around you have not their own conciousness? It sounds like have an awakening that is than the people around you are Russian spies

thanks, then in your opinion I'm not completely lost case like the solipsists, I appreciate that But no, you didn't understand what I said, I will try to explain again. Existence is not made of consciousness. Existence is made of contrast, and contrast doesn't have to be conscious; no one needs to be conscious of it in order to exist. But from the fact of contrast arises consciousness, and since reality has no origin, consciousness has no origin or limits. But it's not the essence of reality; it's a consequence of it. To understand this, you have to break the limits of your mind in meditation and become aware of your unlimited nature. Your unlimited nature is the same whether you're aware of it or not. Existence is not reality, existence is the manifestation of reality. Existence is movement, and reality is essence, is what you are. Reality is how you manifest yourself, with infinite movements coordinated, like every thing else. Movements are coordinated because what is not coordinate or synchronized simply doesn't appear, then what is synchronized appears. And as reality has not limits, the movement hasn't also, it's synchronized to infinity, always. And in that movement conciousness arise. Arise always, because movement is always, and it's infinite always. But it's just a consequence, not the cause.

Then you watched a video in YouTube where a guy said that people are imaginary without inner experience and now you believe that. Well it's your choice but if I were you I wouldn't tell those ideas to many people out of this forum.

Well, maybe they are concious. If I am concious, and they seem the same as me, probably they are concious too😅

And why they appear walking in the street? I'm imagining them? How? Imagining needs a process, will, design

Then why other people appears in the experience? I'm imagining them? How, if I'm not aware of doing it? Then there is something out of this experience, the fact of imagining the others

what I said is against your religion?

You can be concious of your unlimited nature because you are the unlimited. The unlimited is absolute and self-conscious, but it is not consciousness. It's not intelligence, it's not creation. All of that are relative possibilities that inevitably arises due our unlimited nature, but not the foundation of the absolute. The only foundation of the absolute is absence of limits.

Ok, then you think I didn't get any results. It's a bit arbitrary to say that in a conversation about consciousness. Instead, you can argue your position, not try to belittle your interlocutor.

You told me : you could deconstruct your body and your mind if you sit very still. It's a great recommendations but I already did meditation, that's why I told you. I just wanted to explain you that if I'm talking about conciousness, etc it's because I did such things as meditation, psychedelic, etc. Maybe you want to explain that such thing as meditation exist, and I'm thankful for the recommendation, but I already know it. That's why I told you: I already did a lot of meditation. Then you answered: I don't think so. Well, in those terms it's difficult to have a debate. Anyway, I already said what I think about conciousness paradigm

Spangler seems like a contribution to sanity between Advaita and Buddhist spiritual escapism, which is mostly evasion to avoid facing life's challenges. It's something similar to the self-help of your compatriot Tolle, which sends a message that human suffering is a kind of mistake that can be eliminated in one fell swoop by focusing on the present, as zebras do. Maybe he didn't realize that the human suffering is happening now and it's a manifestation of the reality as real than the zebras hunger

@Rezo gelenidze It's most likely that the structure of existence that we are has continuity in other dimensions, or that it coexists in many or perhaps infinite dimensions, in a process that we can hardly intuit. So, in my opinion, the only thing to do is to always give the best of yourself, whether little or much, it doesn't matter, if it's all it's always a lot, if it's just a bit it's always small. There's no need to compare with external ideals, just give your all. It's better to give your all as a slave worker than being a narcissistic winner who don't give anything and take everything. Life is in great part fight, then fight and forget narcissistic ideals that our society put into our minds. We are not here to take, but to give, and we can enjoy a lot that process, that include suffering in abundance. Everything that you take is nothing, empty hedonistic illusion. Everything that you give remains, it's solid, real.