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@puporing we are sharing here different opinions and approaches to the situation, there is no point in behaving fanatically, it is better to be open to different views and to the possibility of being wrong. Otherwise it is impossible to see things objectively And what we say here is not going to affect to the world at all , we are not so important

True, I recognize my misinformation ,But if he had been alive, he would have been there like a vulture on her shoulder😅. Anyway, I am referring to the spirit of war escalation that the Biden administration had and that Kamala was going to continue. Blinken's move was to give Ukraine long-range missiles. What would have been achieved by that? A lot of destruction, especially in Ukraine, the total destruction of Ukraine. Btw, Did you listened Jeffrey sachs? Seems someone who knows what he's talking about

Let's see the consequences of the trump's actions. This moment is very complicated. If Kamala had won with the two vultures Rumsfeld and Blinken perched on her shoulders pushing for Ukraine to send children to the front and giving long-range missiles to Zelensky, perhaps the consequences would have been apocalyptic. Very polite and democratic apocalypse.

All those who have an opinion are biased. I don't listen to him much either. Have you heard the speech of Jeffrey sachs that I posted in another thread? It's interesting, maybe you think he's biased too. Who isn't biased? You?

Good analysis. The war in Ukraine was planned to balkanize Russia and plunder its resources, and the result has been the collapse of NATO. The West has been defeated, the UK and France rebel against this by issuing empty threats, but the reality is that they will never, under any circumstances, dare to send troops to die in Ukraine. Let's see, Korea has sent troops, what's stopping NATO from sending its own? It simply can't. They wouldn't go. There would be a mass rebellion, the West has no fangs. Right now the West is weaker than the East, for the first time in modern history. In a conventional war, a Russian-Chinese alliance would conquer the US and Europe and colonize it by violence, just as China was colonized by England and the emperor's palace sacked. The Chinese remember this all too well. Be careful, the balance has shifted and NATO is an octogenarian tiger without teeth. Trump is not an asteroid, at most the bubonic plague. A refreshing reality check for the West to look in the mirror and see a fat kid screaming that he wants all the ice cream for himself.

@DocWatts I live in a country in Europe where the two parties are in a contest of corruption, and I'm watching the American movie like a show. It's fascinating, but not only Trump, Biden, Blinken , Kamala, all of them. It's like a circus. Trump is wonderful, it's like showing directly and without filters the big joke. The Americans thought that they lived in the democracy of goodness and justice where they have the duty of bombing countries for their good and salvation, steal the resources because the others are not good democrats except it they are Allende, then they don't like and they put Pinochet, and eat all the cake and fuck the others. With trump at least it's clear without hypocrisy. Anyway, sorry if for you the topic is serious and painful. I see it different, for me US was getting too rotten and trump is just showing the reality, and maybe this is healthy at the end for all the Americans and for the world. But it's just an opinion and maybe I'm dramatically wrong.

@DocWatts Trump said during his campaign that if he won he would act like a dictator, and the vast majority of the US voted for him, so who is against democracy, him or you?

This guy has been into everything, and knows very well the US politics. This speech in the European parliament must be listened

Seriously, what does the US care about the Dombass? It seems to be something vital for the US. The Crimea issue is like bombing New York, unacceptable, why? Imagine that for China it is something absolutely terrible that the US invades Iraq, all the Chinese are in a fit of collective hysteria because Afghanistan is being defiled, a thousands-year-old nation, no Chinese can sleep in the face of such horror, it would be better to destroy the world than to allow something as atrocious as Israel bombing Gaza. Let's give Hamas hypersonic atomic missiles because we Chinese cannot live if evil reigns in the world and good is defiled.

Seems more or less informed about whats happening and the news are complete lies, then what could I listen to make an idea of the reality there? It's very difficult Anyway, logic says that Russia won, if weren't the case Blinken wouldn't have been so desperate as to suggest sending children to war and bombing Russian territory.

A war against china would be impossible, the only possible war is a commercial one, and with little chance of success. In a real war, the US would fail completely, China would crush them. It would lead to an atomic war and the world would be destroyed. The US is making maneuvers to delay its recession, the war in Ukraine has been one of them, now Trump is trying a protectionist strategy, but the world is moving in one direction and the decline of the US is inevitable.

According colonel McGregor it's exactly the opposite. Thank you for the recommendation about checking, where are you checking? In the news?

It's not that Trump is giving Ukraine to Russia, it's that Russia has won the war and is advancing faster and faster, it's something that is avoided to mention. The blinken option would be to lower the recruitment age to 18 and give Ukraine long-range missiles. For what? In the end the result would be the same with much more destruction. The Europeans are not going to go there to fight even if Macron threatens to do so, so Trump pretends to give Ukraine to Russia when Russia already has it.

I guess that a good professional should find out after a while if the guy knows or doesn't know. Of course there will be mistakes but many times you will get real information. Another reason for torturing is scaring your enemies, and that's works . In ancient times, torture was used primarily as a deterrent, all civilizations and tribes did it, I suppose because it worked well. If you saw a guy impaled for having done something, you thought that you didn't want to be in his place. To obtain information, for example, about Pinochet's detention centers. They wanted to know the ramifications of the supposed communists in order to eliminate this supposed danger to them, and they achieved their goal with torture. Of course many innocents died in the way, but for them that wasn't a problem in comparison with the benefits

That's true, and Christianity also has a limiting part, it is not easy to see through the duality that emerges from its message, although with the right approach it is possible

For a big difference: I am infinite, a AI is finite. My mind that is running, the current experience, is finite and is very similar to AI, but its substrate, from which it flows, is the infinite source, and its facets are coordinated with the infinite fractal that is total reality in motion. chatgpt's AI has limits, you have no limits. You are not the data or the ability to process that data, but within you is contained the total infinity, and at the same time you are contained in the total infinity. AI does not have an unfathomable bottom, at least for now, in the future, who knows. For now it's just a machine, it's not the infinite being, it's inside of our experience, it's not an experience. The infinite being is not experiencing itself through the AI, it is not you, it is in you.

I think that does a trick by turning the stem of the flower changing the position of the bud from bottom to top 😅. anyway mooji is very good at explaining one thing: how to separate yourself from the current experience, from your life, your story, your ego, from the software that is running, and how to realize that you are the infinite being. many call this enlightenment, is it so? i think it's step 1 of spirituality. achieving this during moments in meditation or at any time is realizing immortality, what you really are, and what is the experience. yes, it could be called enlightenment, but there is something else, the compression of the flow of reality. this is possible, and very few can say that they are really open to this understanding. We could be open in some extent, but I'm sure that's much more is possible

The Christian religion is a good religion, it aims at real awakening, rather at an aspect of awakening, a condition of awakening: purity of heart and acceptance of suffering. Other religions like Buddhism aim at detachment from current experience, to recognize yourself as the infinite being. Both are true, they are two different aspects of reality that are complementary. I would say that one without the other is incomplete. There is a third very interesting religion: Hinduism of the Bahavad Gita, which describes the opening to the understanding of reality, the forces, the tides of cosmic cycles. All three are the product of enormous human genius, which is divine.

I don't back up no one, I'm waiting to see the consequences of his actions. Nobody knows yet. People are very clear about everything and are almost always wrong. We must be cautious and understand that we only see the tip of the iceberg of what is happening and have the humility to accept that with the knowledge we have, it is impossible to have a clear opinion in such a short time. Trump seems retarded, but let's see what is going to happen. The world is extremely complex, very difficult to understand. Anyone who think that understand everything is blind

That doesn't exist. You can give someone very high doses of drugs, alcohol, psychedelics, to override their will, but without torture a strong will will hold up. I assume that the torturers will use professional protocols, proven techniques, lie detectors, etc. They don't have to be sadists, just indifferent, like a cow slaughterhouse employee. They have a job to do and they do it. Obviously there will be many sadistic psychopaths applying for the job, and few empathetic emos, since it must be extremely difficult to get a guy who thinks that if he tells on his colleagues he will go to hell to do it.

The only possibility is that Trump has done this with the idea of achieving some benefit, using his well-known Arab market bargaining tactics to pressure and gain "respect." His manners are childish, crude, rude and stupid, and he looks like a clown. But all this is irrelevant, what is relevant is the results. If the US economy improves in the next few years, and there are no wars, Trump is good, even if he is in diapers and poops himself and then throws it at Trudeau in the face in a debate. If the economy worsens or there is war because of his actions, Trump is bad.

A good professional will repeat the questions over and over again, he will note the inconsistencies, will dig until he finds the truth

Torture works, there are professionals at torturing, and it's not about being sadistic, but about getting the information. If you torture someone for many days, their will will disappear and they won't be able to lie, unless they are someone exceptionally resistant. If they isolate you, don't let you sleep for days, torture you with electricity, hot irons, pulling out your teeth, etc., for a week, everything will be the same for you, you won't be yourself, you will be suffering, nothing won't matter to you, you won't be able to lie, you just would want that this hell ends

@AION what you said is obvious, Europe has been in decline for a long time, its industry is getting weaker and its momentum is getting weaker. Birth rates are constantly falling and the future looks like a recession. It is normal, it is something cyclical. Behind them come others who were previously in misery, they are hungry and the Europeans are comfortable. There is not drama with this if we admit and adapt to the new situations. Btw, the next is US, that now is a giant without foundations. By the way, you will have seen that many people are extremely annoyed when certain things are pointed out and they accuse you of being a slave of Putin if you state obvious realities. It is a current phenomenon, people only want to hear reinforcement of their ideas and absolutely refuse to consider other points of view, they are incapable of real understanding, since for them everything is emotional. It is important to realize these dynamics in order not to fall into them, since they are totally limiting.

Do you really think that the French and the English are going to die in Ukraine? Macron is a fool, he believes in the great colonial France, and it hurts him a lot to be displaced in Africa, but that is already a fact, and not a single Frenchman is going to freeze in Ukraine while they throw bombs at him