Breakingthewall

The idea that Trump, Elon Musk, Bannon, and all those others seem to have is that the green paradigm is suicidal if others in orange, blue, and red come after them, absolutely determined to take over the world. Many people think they're right, that focusing on equality and all that would be great if everyone did it, but if only you do it and the Chinese come behind with unstoppable force and vastly surpass you in industry, the Russians surpass you militarily, the Indians begin to wake up, perhaps we need to take a turn towards cruel efficiency for the very fact of being able to maintain the world's level. Are they wrong? It's possible, but not so sure.

I'd say that all that people are professional scammers. There are many people in vulnerable situations, and there are always vultures circling around injured animals. When it comes to difficult situations, what matters is how you react and how you deal with them. It can help you grow or it can drag you down. The key is to bring out the best in yourself and not evade of the reality.

Its not just a concept, its something real, genetically encoded over billions of years of evolution. The conceptual issue is only the tip of the iceberg. The energetic structures that build the psyche are absolutely real.

Maybe but I can be without any conceptualization and there are still barriers. The logical mind is not the only barrier, it's only the first one and more obvious, but then are many others. The structure of a human is quite complex, but it's an interesting game to get deep in it

Yes could be, some conceptualizations are keys to dissolve another solid conceptualizations

I think that you can be chained to the human, very involved in your life, and same time getting total mystic openess at will, it's a matter of being cunning, how to temporarily deactivate certain springs of the mind. You can place yourself in a position where life and death are indifferent to you at will, and then change to one where they matter to you.

All this about identification remains in the conceptual realm of the mind. Reality is simply real, not a matter of identification. The difference between a closed state and an open one is about energy barriers, not identification. The conceptual mind is used to structure perception, but has no relevance, is secondary character. That's why all this neti neti stuff seems a bit superficial. It's easy put the mind at zero, but the barriers still persist. You can perceive yourself as the living unlimited reality without a doubt, and say, "Oh, I'm enlightened." But there are still barriers.

Real mysticism is not an idea, is a fact. Its something that happens. I don't doubt that Ramana Maharaj was a true mystic, but when I listen to him, he seems limited, like Nisgardata Maharaj and some other Indians, but not all. They seem to have freed themselves from the shackles of humanity, but they haven't achieved true openness. True Indian mysticism, like the Bahavad Gita, is much more than that of I am not the body, nor the mind, etc. That is only the previous step, then you have to delve into what really is, into the movement of the cosmos and the absolute creative power, and I don't see any of that in him

All Asian mysticism has a strong component of detachment, which seems to make sense because attachment seems to keep you focused on your current circumstances and prevents you from opening your mind to the whole. That is, if you want complete openness, good and bad must be the same for you. But as you said, attachment and detachment, suffering or the absence of it, would also have to be the same. I believe that I can have strong attachment and desire and at the same time be able to mentally place ourself in a position of absolute equanimity. Perhaps a little bit of drugs would be helpful, and understanding how your mind works. What's interesting to me is the openness to the whole at certain moments, not living like a monk. That seems extremely boring to me. I could kill myself and I'd be done with all that suffering sooner. The real point is having everything, the human world and true mysticism.

Was an example, agree that he seems a fraud in many aspects, anyway no one have proved any power, maybe they could be real but for now there are no real proves.

It could be so under certain circumstances, although it could also be impossible. We've talked about this before. If someone like Sadhguru or whoever could perform something paranormal like levitation or telepathy, they could gather a group of scientists equipped with all kinds of technology and perform the necessary demonstrations, then this would become a scientific reality. But the fact is that these people with powers don't display them publicly

I would say that the mental path that led Leo to think this was possible is the same path that has led many mystics to think they could levitate if they tried hard. Let's see, the mystical opening undoubtedly shows you that you have no limits. Therefore, if this is so, it means that you are the reality, the totality. If this is so, it means that you have created this reality in which you live, but you are not aware of it. This implies that if you raise your consciousness and become aware of how you are creating this moment, you will be able to modify it. This is erroneous; it's a limited vision of the unlimited that, at a given moment, seems absolutely true, but isn't. The very fact of the absence of limits makes you infinitely limited. It's paradoxical, but it's obvious. Let's see, if nothing limits you, you unfold infinitely in infinite dimensions automatically and inevitably. You have no control, since control would be, precisely, a limit. You are infinite as an essence, as an absolutely free infinite being, but as a form, you are absolutely limited in infinite directions. Each energetic vibration of your reality is linked with the infinite dimensions of reality, forming a harmonious and synchronous whole. Levitating would break the synchronicity; transforming into an alien would also break it; it's absolutely impossible. It is possible if you respect the laws of infinite synchronicity. You can act on the form to a great extent, and each movement will have infinite butterfly effects. But you cannot displace infinity by breaking the synchronicity. It's impossible.

Yes I think sitting meditation is very important because it changes the mental pattern of constantly focusing on doing things and allows for the expansion of the mind. What I wanted to say is that meditation focused on breathing or a mantra doesn't work for me.

Meditation is a trap because it's oriented toward focus and should be oriented toward opening. Focus closes, and what you want is to open. As a human, you are a limiter; you are a structure that eliminates everything except what you need to be human. Meditation is about temporarily removing that limiter and being the whole, which is not human, nor is it anything defined. It is formless because it is absolute potential. By concentrating on the breath, on mantras, on the now, on whatever, this will not happen. You must defocus, and this is contrary to every instinct, because it approaches death

Christianity is formulated metaphorically to make it understandable to ordinary people. When it is said: "Whoever believes in me shall live," people understand that you must believe in Jesus and what he says, like a good obedient disciple. But you can't ask people to open a hole in their being and disintegrate it. This is what it really means: "Whoever believes in me shall live." Die and you will live. Give without reservation and you will live. Right now, at this very moment, break your mind, break your barriers, open your heart without the slightest reservation. Erase your ego until not a trace remains. Give yourself to the flames, forget about yourself, and the whole life will open up for you.

Forms are just forms but the substance is the divine light. That's the essence of any spirituality. Can you open yourself to the absolute light? That's enlightenment. Christianity points very good to that light because they call it love, and that light is the total power that's in your heart, the infinite source. Buddhism says that the essence of reality is emptiness, but it's impossible, reality can't be empty because you are, and you fill the infinity, since you are the infinite being. The very fact of the absence of limitations is the key, you are that, and the real spirituality is opening yourself now to your real nature, to the total.

The essence of Christianity is very simple: open your heart. In your heart is God. Your heart is God. Your heart is the bleeding heart of Christ, and through suffering, the doors of glory are opened, which is beyond the human. Bare your heart, be absolutely humble, accept the martyrdom and absolute suffering of Christ with an open heart, and the gates of the divine will open for you. You only have to surrender yourself, and you will have everything. The absolute light will open a crack in your heart and flood reality, and you will realize that the world is a toy, and only the total light of being is, hallelujah. Simple and absolutely real

I see something essentially wrong in Buddhism. Buddhism is negation. Nirvana is the absence of desire and attachment, and its main characteristic is the absence of suffering. It is a tranquil peace, in which the absence of reality is perceived, which is revealed as illusion. Buddhism is absence, and it seems to me to be escapism, a philosophy that seeks to transcend certain human impulses in order to avoid suffering. Buddhism doesn't speak of the absolute creative power of reality, since any creation is dismissed as "illusion," which really means "nothing." Buddhism is a philosophy that attempts to apply negative adjectives to reality in order to reach absolute emptiness, which is the essence of reality. In my opinion, it is a misguided religion limited. Christianity, in its essence, is more accurate, and so is Hinduism.

Could be, but I can't avoid see a lack in Buddhism. The idea of the non-self seems a bit twisted to me. I find the Hindu vision of Atman and Brahman much more accurate. The Buddhist idea seems wrong to me, like something that they want to fit but doesn't fits. but it's possible I don't fully understand it. Maybe deeply Hinduism and Buddhism are the same from a different angle

You think that you are funny, smart and special with a aggressive touch, but you aren't at all 🤣

Christianity, at its core, is a key to enlightenment because it reveals the energetic barriers that encapsulate the individual and prevent them from expanding. The Lamb is the one who abandons himself to the flow of reality and becomes one with it. I am life, or I am who is, is an absolutely accurate description of the unfathomable. Furthermore, it explains better than any other religion how the human being is the final evolutionary step of life toward the divine. Yet, it still bears the mark of Cain, the original sin, an energetic barrier of fear and selfishness that keeps him chained. Only through total surrender, the acceptance of martyrdom, of the cross, of suffering, does the human being open to the divine. In my opinion, much truer than Buddhism, which promises the end of suffering and thereby castrates. Christianity surrenders to suffering and thereby lives, and life is the burning heart of Christ, which explodes in absolute love like a supernova, creating the reality. No human religion is superior than Christianity.

So it's better to accept what they tell us without critical thinking? That's a mistake imo. Spirituality is full of traps

Please, let me being a smartass and criticize Ramana, just as an exercise. According his logic, if they put me inside a 1 cubic meter iron box in the sun at 45 degrees full of mosquitoes and rats for a month, I know it is temporary, so I would not suffer. He always says: ask yourself what you are. You are not the body, because it's temporary. You are not the mind. Neti neti. So what's left? Let's see. Knowing that you are not the body is an idea of the mind. Knowing that you are not the mind is also an idea. The understanding that you are the infinite void is also a deduction created by the mind. You are not the void. This is not true. You are something else very different. Let's imagine the possibility that Ramana was wrong. Don't you feel a feeling of , let's say, incompleteness, when you listen Ramana?

It's normal for Christians to have a superficial and normative interpretation of Christianity because, like Islam, it has a large moral component, related to social conduct. This is because if it had been a purely mystical religion, it wouldn't have been successful in its context. Buddhism would never have triumphed in Europe, much less in the Middle East. Can you imagine Huang Po preaching to the tribes of Arabia? They wouldn't have understood anything, nor would the Romans. Christianity has a mystical essence beneath a thick moral layer. Here we're talking about the essence, not about what Jehovah's Witnesses do. The essence of Christianity is pure Truth

Translation: I'm better than you you are so generous, thanks Translation: I'm so so high and you so low, but anyway, I'm generous and I do a big effort Translation : you are not deep enough to understand Tolle. Ok seems that you should read Tolle again because I see anger, ego, reaction, and no life and original thought, just sadness and need of superiority. I think I did some interesting points , but as you need to put me the label : no awake, then nothing is going to get into your mind, that is quite closed btw. Bye