Fadl

@neutralempty

God is so great in a way that you can't handle. People with limited capacity say I'm God (because they can't take it any more), people with higher capacity admit they don't know. Even after death you won't know. Love is the bath of not knowing, and it is endless.

Monism means that there is only one God. Non-dualism means that you and God are one.

All of us in this forum, I mean 100% of us (vegans or not) believe that what is happening in these slaughterhouses is not right and it is disgusting.

Not really, your problem is with capitalism not with me, this western white man capitalism made every thing look ugly.

We will go talking about this forever apparently. You need to kill sth to eat, a plant or an animal .. their lives are the same ... if you want to save lives don't eat much, FAST every day ... don't eat. I really think that vegans are emotionally unstable.

Well said I see a lot of problem with the way mainstream veganism is heading which is processed junk, cheese replacements, fake meats, chips, vegan chocolates and crap. For a long time I used to think that everybody is doing a whole food plant-based diet, they aren't. many vegans are clueless about nutrition they consume foods dominant with sunflower & canola oils, salt, phosphate additives, vegan butter, thickeners, colourings and plant proteins. If a vegan diet is done holistically based predominantly on whole foods, beautiful but now with it becoming easier and easier to get vegan junk so more and more people are transitioning, see this becoming a huge problem. Not disputing the ethical side, that argument is indisputable. Once you've demonstrated the evidence of animal harm to somebody and they still accept those consequences by consciously choosing to eat the animal foods, your job is done, any additional screaming, vindicating and riding the guilt train makes people hate you and creates distance. Veganism = a millennial stupidity. it is just another industry. those people think they are saving the world, maybe they think they are heros or sth, they need to stop watching spider man movies. Just look at the stupidity of this argument. @Tetcher Could you please explain for us the difference between animal life and plant life?

hehe a vegan talking about being ¨offended and get defensive¨. man up.

A lion or a donkey are more intelligent than any vegan btw. Veganism is a type of hysteria, that is it.

look, with this level of consciousness you need to stuck with your therapist, you need him, just tell him what you feel. you will be ok buddy.

My conclusion is that veganism is stupid.. just hurted people trying to do good in this world, they are not evil .. but they are not realistic as well.

Exactly, they don't think like that because they don't think. That was my point from the beginning btw. @neutralempty I swear to God I don't understand your arguments man .. maybe it is my english. Anyway I was thinking about sth, really .. like animals eat other animals all the time, what differentiates us from other animals to not eat animals.

They don't care, you can suffer as much as you want, they just want the money/power. Sadhguru and others like him are just a fraud.

@neutralempty @Zeitgeist I think we understand each other, but everyone holds his mental position, you know if this apple you eat is able to scream, it will scream so bad, and you will never eat again. And then you will die from hunger because of stupidity.

I don't open my mind to stupidity, if you wanna be a vegan then be. What is deep about veganism beside animals cruelty? teach us.

Yeah yeah you can..... but you shouldn't. If somebody did that then he is a fraud.

Thats why they are stupid.

Nope, you can't use God to make money, those teachers are a fraud.

There is no masculinity in this world anymore

This topic reminds me of the enlightened guy Sadhguru, takning money from you to teach you about God, they are not teaching you nothing, they just want the money. #Capitalism.

You kill them as fast as possible, don't scare them, and don't kill much, you kill to eat (animals and plants) so don't eat much. Your problem is that you didn't understand that animals and plants are the same, and you gotta kill sth to eat eventually. @neutralemptymind bending half done derivations!! what!!? I was clear from the beginning, veganism is stupid, that is my argument, and by ¨stupid¨ I mean it is not true and it is delusional.

hehe The animals have the right to eat as much plants as they want. Look man, everybody is eating everybody .. that is life ... you can not denied it ... we just need to be merciful and kind while doing it.

We are just talking about nationalism which is pure stupidity after all.

The difference is, plants have no emotions, they don't scream for example .. when vegans see that they think it is ok to eat them ... vegans are spiritually challenged .. they dont use the brain.

Animals and plants are both alive .. and you need to end a life to eat. Don't eat meat if your body can handle that. What is happening nowadays to animales is just not fair .. capitalism is not fair. but the concept of eating animales ¨life¨ is not wrong. even vegans eat lives.