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You don't use the brain to realize God, if you are using the brain then it is not God, the brain is limited and God is not. people keep talking about psychedelics simply because it does shut the brain up ... then they can see the only thing that will make them fall in love (the real one). They become addicts.

@Adamq8 thanks man! @neutralemptyplease don't bring veganism to this thread. anyway I will consider it.

Im trying ...

I don't feel nothing unless I'm under a psychedelic or under an ego trip(power/money). Im sick of it.

Yeah I understand but how? praying, meditation?

How these people reached these levels without psychedelics?? It is kinda easy with psychedelics, but without it ... how?????

He doesn't know everything.

If you are a vegan then it is normal that you won't understand.

Philosophy is just a map, it is not reality. Monism means the one, the true one is God.

Because I dont know, what I do know is that God is so great, life and death are just a step toward him, this journey is just an endless love story, it is his way to show us his greatness. But people can't handle it, they only want something that makes sense. It is all about your capacity.

@neutralempty

God is so great in a way that you can't handle. People with limited capacity say I'm God (because they can't take it any more), people with higher capacity admit they don't know. Even after death you won't know. Love is the bath of not knowing, and it is endless.

Monism means that there is only one God. Non-dualism means that you and God are one.

All of us in this forum, I mean 100% of us (vegans or not) believe that what is happening in these slaughterhouses is not right and it is disgusting.

Not really, your problem is with capitalism not with me, this western white man capitalism made every thing look ugly.

We will go talking about this forever apparently. You need to kill sth to eat, a plant or an animal .. their lives are the same ... if you want to save lives don't eat much, FAST every day ... don't eat. I really think that vegans are emotionally unstable.

Well said I see a lot of problem with the way mainstream veganism is heading which is processed junk, cheese replacements, fake meats, chips, vegan chocolates and crap. For a long time I used to think that everybody is doing a whole food plant-based diet, they aren't. many vegans are clueless about nutrition they consume foods dominant with sunflower & canola oils, salt, phosphate additives, vegan butter, thickeners, colourings and plant proteins. If a vegan diet is done holistically based predominantly on whole foods, beautiful but now with it becoming easier and easier to get vegan junk so more and more people are transitioning, see this becoming a huge problem. Not disputing the ethical side, that argument is indisputable. Once you've demonstrated the evidence of animal harm to somebody and they still accept those consequences by consciously choosing to eat the animal foods, your job is done, any additional screaming, vindicating and riding the guilt train makes people hate you and creates distance. Veganism = a millennial stupidity. it is just another industry. those people think they are saving the world, maybe they think they are heros or sth, they need to stop watching spider man movies. Just look at the stupidity of this argument. @Tetcher Could you please explain for us the difference between animal life and plant life?

hehe a vegan talking about being ¨offended and get defensive¨. man up.

A lion or a donkey are more intelligent than any vegan btw. Veganism is a type of hysteria, that is it.

look, with this level of consciousness you need to stuck with your therapist, you need him, just tell him what you feel. you will be ok buddy.

My conclusion is that veganism is stupid.. just hurted people trying to do good in this world, they are not evil .. but they are not realistic as well.

Exactly, they don't think like that because they don't think. That was my point from the beginning btw. @neutralempty I swear to God I don't understand your arguments man .. maybe it is my english. Anyway I was thinking about sth, really .. like animals eat other animals all the time, what differentiates us from other animals to not eat animals.

They don't care, you can suffer as much as you want, they just want the money/power. Sadhguru and others like him are just a fraud.

@neutralempty @Zeitgeist I think we understand each other, but everyone holds his mental position, you know if this apple you eat is able to scream, it will scream so bad, and you will never eat again. And then you will die from hunger because of stupidity.

I don't open my mind to stupidity, if you wanna be a vegan then be. What is deep about veganism beside animals cruelty? teach us.