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You don't. It just seems like you do if there is the belief structure -- "I am real," etc. Completeness can never be experienced, since it's all there is. You can Real-I-ze the infinite, God, nothingness, etc, however. Or you can just create the reality you want -- the point.

Experience; incompleteness; duality; wanting something other than what is. It's necessary for survival, since to want what is happening is not possible. There isn't really survival or suffering though, only what is -- which cannot be made better, since there isn't anything else.

@Kalki Avatar Thank you!? Really appreciate the advice. Truly.

@Shin has it right Above statement is ultimately a false claim, however, and as such is synonymous with the individual. As is that statement. And so on.

Nice! I like your style. Tell me what you think of mine; better than self inquiry: 1. Be still and quiet (or not). 2. Try not to be enlightened. It’s going to get you, and there’s no escape, but keep trying to prevent it at all costs — pay no attention to the fact that it’s inevitable. Simply try to escape it. If you dare...

Bad-trips are not wrong-trips, but they’re not right-trips. So, too, for good trips. The best trip is a trip for which you don’t know just how good it is. Every forum post is mere belief-art, this is entirely false, and this is a belief as well. The same thing seems to be true for existence. The above statement is again, a false claim. And so on. This is how Reality works — of course not! But it serves as a means of me-survival (it doesn’t).

Don’t know about any of that, but you’re right, in that it seems I was harboring a false claim about the nature of being. Who would’ve thought? ? Thanks ?

But the process of deciding whether/how to hold-off the insight / letting-go of ground-structure-beliefs (I am real, I am here, I have a life, my life has purpose, etc) is not only completely out of anyone’s hands, it’s not even happening. There’s quite a bit of fear here since I don’t know what will happen. I guess “you” just went with “choosing to avoid self-inquiry,” etc? I had a major glimpse yesterday that was almost the end of me, and no practice was even seeming to take place — though there’s the memory that a sort of question did appear; something like “just how mind-blowing must the complete truth be?” The answer I guess is: infinitely. Literally was about to get in bed to sleep and then flash... life-story nearly ended, it seems. A bright side that “I’m” seeing (i.e. that I seem to probably be making up, even though probability isn’t real...) is this could be viewed as “real me waking up.” I find that comforting.

There isn’t “an” anything ?

@Someone here Reality is what the individual will seem to undoubtedly call this, when a false claim about this is “this is real.”

Most people would. Too bad ?

A Saint is completely fresh and new. Didn’t come from anywhere and isn’t going anywhere. Decisions are replaced with pure faith and selflessness, and there’s essentially no one left to care. They’re dead to the world; awake to what is, alone.

So that’s why it’s all over when Unconditional Love is seen... Why? Well, 1. It cannot be put into words or described. 2. Everyone knows it deep down, but it’s too much to bear to admit it, both in beauty and magnitude, to be able to even exist while looking even slightly toward it. I just had a memory pop up, it wasn’t mine. It was of an enlightened family of Jews in Holocaust (maybe not literally Holocaust, but looked very much like that; some genocide/etc). It was practically the faintest memory ever, as if the experience intensity gain was turned down to 0.0001%. It was SO fine, but... what I saw... it was so heartbreaking and heartwarming and indescribably amazing, seeing the enlightened appearance entirely free from the person ... (that alone is a bit like 5-MeO times infinity as far as just how different it felt for there to be no one there, and that doesn’t come close to this level of pure unimaginable ineffability; 5meo may be “more intense” and amazing, but it isn’t anything like this) ... in a family of Holocaust sufferers (“experienced” [it was beyond mere subject-object experience] the memory of at least 2 individuals merged through shared ego death), that even a faint glimmer caused the “I” to cry out in terror — the fear of death was immense — I almost didn’t make it out. Though, it’s intuitively obvious that I never was.

For fucking real. It’s like thinking “heaven and hell swapping places” is “good” or something. The intensity of that fear can probably even give the body physical health problems lol

@James123 ? yeah I wasn’t exactly being literal with “becoming everything” (who would become what already is?) just saying that’s how much fear it was causing. And that’s how profound the “experience” was. Almost killed me, or seemed to.

It literally feels like I’m looking at going from 1. normal life, to 2. dying forever, and becoming everything Though obviously there is already only the 2nd, it feels final. It’s basically a no brainer. I choose life, lol. Whatever that was with no one was perfection, but that same state with self would be utter incomprehensible — idk, can’t really even imagine it properly. Was like literally no one here or anywhere else either, just everything. Obviously not up to “me” though. Fear has gone. Might try inquiry/witness/surrender in a couple days, I feel like that could probably blow it.

It literally felt like end of universe. Like it was about to be erased. I don’t know how the fuck to let go like that. It’ll probably happen unexpectedly when I’m driving to work or something ? (well, obviously not, but you get the idea) This was from no drugs and actually, no technique. I just sat down and just started noticing everything was truly “Perfectly Ordinary” and then that memory flashed. It was a shockingly powerful glimpse for such a short flash.

I’m not enlightened btw, but I’m on the brink and literally am about to die.

“I” realized God in ways you clearly haven’t. This is about more than mere God-realization. You aren’t conscious of what God really is. If you only knew what going “further” actually meant for me over here... well you don’t know. It’s alright. It’s not fun and games like you seem to assume.

You aren’t reading this sentence right now. To “you” it may feel like you definitely are. That is God dreaming. It isn’t happening. Let me explain, but I warn you, you either won’t get it, or you will: First, the infinite is all, so nothing should really be surprising. Keep that in mind. With that said... One good example that is at least possible to see through: You believe, for absolutely no good reason, that prior events cause later events. You might believe this is obvious, but that’s another belief for which perfect (yet completely illusory) evidence may arise for — you may further believe you learned this or assumed it or were told this and you believed it. ALL those claims are actually flat false. Completely self contained belief world. God dreaming. That’s why you die when you realize emptiness (emptiness seen by nobody). It’s the end of something that never began.

You probably think you can understand more of this and apply it to your life. If you truly see enough of it, it will literally erase the individual out of sheer love. The part you misunderstand, however... here’s modified form; the perhaps shocking situation: There is only what is. God isn’t actually dreaming a separate reality — it is literally a strange loop illusion: belief A creating evidence B which creates belief A again. It isn’t actually happening. If this is seen, enlightenment of you (erasure of God) can occur, but even if not, you’ll never be the same.

@Kalo Those are all false claims. The only “real” God is is-ness itself — there is nothing else. And really, it just shows lack of insight when one is not willing to call it by its rightful name, Unconditional Love ❤️ You need it to feel like it makes sense. It doesn’t in actuality. Causality is an illusion as well. You aren’t there to see it, but the belief structures are the entire reality. You actually believe, for no good reason, that prior events cause later events. But it’s such a given, most would think I’m crazy for pointing that out. Evidence for beliefs arise out of themselves and create personal reality. But it isn’t actually happening, it just seems that way.

It seems to lead to all of those, quite effectively, with the exception of liberation. Nothing leads to that, simply by definition, since liberation is merely the end of all false claims, including but not limited to: time is real, space is real, I am here, past caused present, future is real, movement is real, something is needed, etc. With liberation it is recognized that nothing has ever lead to anything, nor even actually happened at all.

Yes, but God with any associated meaning isn't real -- this God is literally a REALization the individual can "have." But there's no individual, so yeah... If you're still there, your conception of God will necessarily be of this variety. In fact even if you aren't there, any conception of God will be of this variety. In other words, talking about God is quite literally masturbation. Not that there's anything wrong with that. "I" do it fairly often, in fact.

Since God is infinite, there are limitless ways in which it doesn't have to obey logic, alone. This means infinite playground...and every single belief can seem to make logical sense, when held. Like it's nothing... This is how infinite creation appears out of, and as, nothing.