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Well sure, this whole timeless thing (no-thing) isn't moving, and it's just an appearance, but more and less awesome appearances can appear. No one is judging them as awesome or less so, but yeah. There are different mountaintops, apparently -- of course, not really...

^^ This. End of story. Though yeah if the freebase happens to have some degree of water solubility and it isn't zwitterionic, then yeah it can also be plugged. Though I don't know if it has those qualities.

Love that one

God can imagine "separate time and place" and create the whole shebang at once. It literally just happened right now. You just did it.

Experience can apparently collapse permanently. Just check out Andreas Muller. Totally different from God-realization but it's an equally high separate mountaintop.

Sure, but have you experienced God-realization? Even though there's no you, there's still more, even if there's no one left to do it. In a sense, you could say it's just getting into the weeds, but what beautiful weeds they are. It's not really contradicting the fact of nonduality. Unconditional Love can't help but manifest as formless infinite God. Yeah no one is doing it, but it's all there is.

God does it "forever" in that there's no time there, so God creates time and space and the like to have something to do. It's not like God is literally doing that in time as you'd normally think of it. It's beyond time. In a sense, God never leaves Heaven. This is Heaven right now, but with no one in it, one could say... So if it seems like there's someone living in separation, it might seem like something other than Heaven. It's still Heaven, but for no one.

Yeah, exactly.

I think what he may have been suggesting is that it sounded very green. I thought it was fine. Some of the responses may be exactly as you say, but perhaps, they're tough love, especially if it's coming from someone who's been in a very similar situation and got out of it. Maybe? Maybe not.

Yeah. Exactly. Or read a good book on a Sunday afternoon or whatever. If apparent separation from spirituality makes you suffer more, it can even be a "spiritual" book. I enjoyed I Hope You Die Soon by Richard Sylvester, but... that could just as easily result in increased spiritual suffering, so I don't know. @Endangered-EGO

Plan ahead and find a way then (or not), and perhaps just get serious in general about contemplation in the meantime. Inquire. Remember to mindfully observe what's happening (especially mental states) as consistently as possible. Never miss your daily meditation sit; try to bring the increased mindfulness into daily life. Etc. Just suggestions.

Really? Interesting... lol LSD-25 is one of the most ego-dissolving, human-transcending, God-mode psychedelics out there, ime. 1P-LSD is a lot more gentle, but not as effective. n,n-DMT is gentle at a low enough dose, ime -- same goes for mushrooms.

@spacecake Well for me, LSD, 5-MeO, and ketamine work best. Works best after lots of contemplative practice, and many trips. Feel free to disregard. Not a recommendation. Mushrooms (or even very low dose n,n-DMT) is a decent starter, but it's highly visual and less straight-to-the-point, so to speak.

Practically every aspect of language implies a process. You can't actually use language to actually talk about what we're talking about lol. You can just get closer in some ways to a report. But either way, it wouldn't require time based super structure -- time could simply be imagined, as in fact it is.

Ultimately the idea of higher or lower super structures is just an idea. There is simply everything (unconditional love) being infinitely free. When it appears ordered, we call that infinite intelligence. Time and space are not different in the sense that one actually transcends the other -- they're both equally imaginary; completely.

For real though. Some might think you’re kidding, lol.

@The Mystical Man The levels that can be traversed with psychedelics + meditative and contemplative skill puts that achieved with meditation/contemplation alone to shame. If your goals are high enough, meditation/contemplation alone is just like trying to be a world class Olympic weightlifter without using anabolic steroids. And yeah, it is dangerous to do what it takes to achieve the highest goals.

Completely. Over Here, it’s quite clear that, at least in the (apparently) finite reality, understanding can and will only accelerate (of course, disregarding inevitable fluctuations in the trend) — I can only imagine it’s gotta be the same over There. For me though, while I still occasionally use psychedelics, I’ve been using progressively less, as it’s basically a world-ending ordeal each time. I very much feel (eerily, I might add) like one of these days, I won’t be coming back. ? ? ? ?... ? Stupid I know... though idk... maybe you can relate lol But at the risk of sounding sappy... It’s like with this video, you’ve transcended Teacher, and have come full circle, to Friend. Not merely “My friend.” Just: Friend. (while still of course effectively fulfilling the role of teacher) ❤️ i.e. lots of praise blah blah praise that and the other blah praise ? what can I say lol

@Inliytened1 The reason Leo’s latest video is so powerful, imo, is that it doesn’t appear to allow much (if any) room for meaningful criticism. Not to make anything super special of it, but it’s quite a masterpiece. Truth bomb of the highest order.

@Leo Gura Oh you’re good. It was a meaningless pick-apart. Just keep on doing what you’re doing ?. “You” got this. “We” all got this.

@Fran11 @Leo Gura I’m just saying, from here, it seems like you could’ve come out with this video earlier — that’s not a criticism, it’s a compliment (yeah... tricky, but it really is). It was a perfect explanation of God realization exactly as I see it, but I don’t have the skill (and admittedly, perhaps not quite the experience) to convey myself. I mean... lol... even down to the heavy metals thing — I went through basically the exact same process. Check my damn posts (edit: comments) ?. The only part of the video that I would pick apart: your conception of emptiness. Emptiness, my friend, is not mere experience of voidness. It is in fact also the intuitive recognition of the voidness of everything, ultimately. You precisely pointed to the very depths of emptiness when you described an aspect of God Mode: the infinite endless love. And how it comes with strings attached: meaninglessness. That is also emptiness. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know; just picking apart language. It’s difficult to talk about this stuff, and I don’t have nearly the talent (nor the platform) for it as you do, so this post (comment/reply) of mine could be totally unhelpful on my part. Anyway, cheers.

You might have more success with one of the following 3; I know I did: 1. simply noticing your mental state (activity, mood, emotional charge such as anger/spacing-out/etc, quietude, etc) in real time, all day, no matter what the situation 2. radiating loving kindness at all times either to a spiritual friend that you love, to yourself, or to all beings — try to choose one and stick with it, but when in crowds just radiate to the people around you 3. self inquiry or some type of insight practice that views all experience as not-you since “I’m over here and it’s over there” to make the duality illusion glaringly obvious. If you transcend that last one, some contemplation will generally go on effortlessly (or with effortless effort) and there maybe won’t be a whole lot of questions about what to do with your practice.

In that case you’re right. I would only say the God you describe does not exist, in my view. I was referring to what you might call the Tao. Splitting hairs maybe, but now we understand each other. My bad I guess.

? It’s more about the direct/cognitive event than the spiritual knowledge though. Which I’m sure is not news to you.

^^ And don’t forget@Guru Fat Bastard time is among that which @James123 refers to as thought as well.