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Close, but doesn't seem to absolutely be the case. Sure, an end to experience would not provide peace, obviously... for the reason you suggest. But you additionally assume not only that experience ends at body death, but also that experience is real in the first place.

Well, since any exclusive positive claim is necessarily false, I cannot say reincarnation is real. It's like anything else: it may appear to happen. The Law of One / Ra Material (quite legit channeled work) provides some info on the technicalities of reincarnation (and metaphysics in general). If you haven't checked it out, I highly recommend it: https://www.lawofone.info/sessions.php Aaron Abke has an amazing series on the Ra Material if you're new to it. Very highly recommend it: Relative is absolute. The absolute appears as the relative.

Ironically "I'll buy you the rope" seems to have "worked" thus far to my knowledge. No one in that community has done it yet lol

Haven't read that, but yeah, relative is absolute. However, there is no real other place and time. It only seems like there is when it seems there's an individual. Individual = false claim: I am here now. When there's only what's happening, there isn't anything else. It's not even "happening constantly." It's just happening. Apparently.

Well, that's true, it does include perspectives, but it only includes them as appearance, not reality. i.e. apparent separation does not prove real separation. There is no other real place and time. It only seems like there is when it seems there's an individual. Individual = false claim: I am here now.

What would you propose? People sometimes commit suicide. This community is as far from pro-suicide as it can get.

Grace? Nobody here looks highly upon suicide. In fact it's very much in the air that suicide is precisely not what this work is about. And Leo is handling it about as well as one could ask. In Patreon meetings with Jim Newman, for instance, if someone brings up suicide, Jim tells them "I'll buy you the rope." Basically the exact opposite happens here.

Simply? The illusion = (that there is) "something else" (other than: this; what is; everything) If there seems to be a you, experiencing "your perspective" as ultimately real, it will seem as though there must be "another" perspective, which there isn't.

Yeah it's just speculation, but it certainly fits. Seeking so hard it may have just been too much.

I've realized The Witness and God though self inquiry, but it wasn't nearly as complete as a later God realization (realization of unconditional love) with ketamine + LSD. Not comparable. And the Jhana's are quite nice as well. In fact, they're so good, I used to wonder why they weren't the only thing anyone on the path ever talked about! Lol.

Or, he could have been depressed underneath the outwardly and inwardly projected loving exterior, and essentially turned depression into a shadow... Then perhaps he was looking for whatever excuse to end his pain -- if he could concoct a comfortable story, he'd more easily be able to go through with it. Now, that is of course 100% conjecture, but something similar is totally plausible.

This is basically the central point of spirituality... Not exclusive to Leo or actualized.org. There is no alternative... Well, apart from just not having the info disseminated at all... Freedom is dangerous; you have to take the good with the bad. You really do seem to take for granted just how careful and effective Leo has been thus far.

You misunderstood. Yes, this is a mystery. My point was this is ALL there is. Show me something else. There's nothing other than what is. That there is something else is the whole dream...

@King Merk Easily the most epic and helpful tomes on meditation and emptiness: Seeing That Frees MCTB TMI

No. There is not. However, be careful... Even though this is all there is, be wary of these assumptions: That you should know all there is. That this is in (or at) an exclusive “here and now” as opposed to some other here and now. It’s those assumptions which can lead you astray — resorting to mere irrational, contorted, false belief that “this is all there is” in a way that is not the truth. There is only what does and doesn’t appear ≈ I am you.

? Well, I think you made the right choice! Imagine the potential horrors of those options... Not to mention, has a spiritual commune ever ended well? Like, ever? Maybe I’m wrong about that, but if true, I sort of doubt you’d be the very first to successfully pull it off. All things considered, you’ve done extremely well with actualized.org, in my estimation.

What is. Everything. Absolute has no real perspective.

This entire comment. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Meant clarity, not clarify. Clear on what's not worth believing in, understanding truth by direct experience and mindfulness, and power of consciousness via mindfulness, psychedelics, and insight. Perhaps (provided one has built plenty of samadhi) view experiences through various insight lenses such as impermanence, unsatisfactoriness, not-self, and emptiness of inherent existence.

Not really... God-Realization is more complicated. Nonduality is simple: all there is, is all there is. There's no one and nothing happening. Nothing is everything. This empty appearance is neither real nor unreal. Relative is absolute. Of course by nonduality I do not mean in any way shape or form Neo Advaita, which is not ultimate nonduality.

Essentially, but that's not a bug, it's a feature.

Clarify, understanding, and power. Lots of work with meditation, contemplation, inquiry, surrender of the ego, and getting into the deep fine art that is the psychedelic experience... All the above, combined, in the right quantities, with joyful effort, over a long period of time -> God-Realization.

Goodness... RIP @SoonHei ❤️

This is an idea of enlightenment. How likely do you think it is that your idea of it is what it’s actually like?

Leo, I feel like you’ve been holding back. I know there are reasons for that, but please never stop occasionally letting it loose. I’m right there with you (at least in the respects that seem to be the case from a particular perspective). I wonder... What is left? It seems like your understanding is... I guess you could say... total. Let’s make it more total. Though I guess that will never happen, because it’s already the case. Keep on keepin’ on, man. ❤️