Vrubel

You jumped abroad on a certain high-speed train following a specific track, I don't know what you're trying to prove to yourself. But reason is not your track and truth is not the destination. This YT channel is a goldmine for opinions and views from everyday Israelis (& Palestinians): https://www.youtube.com/@CoreyGilShusterAskProject/videos It's the next best thing from actually going to Israel.

This is the explanation that makes it add up. Israeli society is insanely diverse in terms of spiral stage, culture, ethnicity and religious belief. Most is moderate and reasonable but that does not make for sensational news, social media posts or propaganda. Only a zoom-in on a certain fraction will achieve the desired demonization and narrative-pushing and even then some twisting and stretching are required.

Undergoing the consequences of war as horrendous as they are, is not genocide. There is a real fucking genocide going on by Arab Muslims against African Muslims in Sudan but nobody cares about that because there are no Jews involved. This whole genocide thing is a farce and propaganda tool. Some good-hearted stage green people get mindlessly sucked in because they lack critical thinking skills. As somebody who grew up on stories of real fucking Genocide and WW2 from the Russian perspective the whole thing is just nothing more than a cutesy stage green trend like 'defund the police' while also serving as useful idiots for real genocidal maniacs and blatant hypocrites.

For sure man, I’ll actually live in the next town over from yours, so meeting up won’t be a problem. Without jokes, I am really into nature, especially passionate about plants and snakes.

That's not the point I made. I wrote what I wrote and don't twist that. I have nothing against Palestinians as a people, I wish for peace, and two states seem as the most reasonable solution. I have no issue discussing hard topics like civilian causalities rates in a respectful and reasonable way. But I don't get to that because I have to be defensive against all the lies you people spread.

What you’re doing is plain old atrocities denial, it’s pretty hypocritical behavior for the side that gets off on smelling its farts of moral superiority. Not everything can be mushed through your narrative so you have to resort to denial, backhanded tactics and finding a way of blaming Israel for the morbid stupidity and the depraved behaviors of others. What's new. If you don't care about that, that's fine but it would serve you more to not speak about things you don't understand so you won't blatantly expose your hypocrisy, ignorance and morbid disrespect.

I would say I take responsibility for the eroding of some global sympathy from reasonable people due to problematic policies and hard-right elements but that’s about it. Some people are just blind haters, they twist and stretch and mush everything through their narrative. It's impossible to take responsibility for that. There is no excuse or blame shifting for 7/10 full stop. And ultimately things like "image" and anti-semitism abroad are secondary concerns when securing your state and people. Are kidding me!? I’ll do everything in the world to save 50 Israeli children. I gladly will give my life for it. I wish The Palestinians viewed their people with the same reverence and did not use them as human shields or disposable pawns. Even if you don't care about Israelis being murdered, raped and kidnapped at least you should see how 7/10 has thrown the Gazan people under the bus and imposed the consequences of war on them. How convenient to shut people down who do not indulge in your prepackaged narrative.

I can throw this back to you but from the Israeli POV. Relax, I have another POV than you. I am not an unreasonable person and if you think I am then it's you who is projecting and lashing out at me for not being part of the hivemind

Same. I got the feeling I have to go hardcore on the defensive here because of all the falsehoods, twisting and stretching, hypocrisy and the agenda-driven hyperbolic labels. I am perfectly capable in acknowledging our own faults and recognizing the vicious-cyclical nature of it all and I don't expect people to share my worldview, some will be more cynical towards my people and that's fine but more often than not it crosses certain lines which I will not stand for. Even when I share something reasonable and peace-oriented I often get slammed down, so how can I have a reasonable and respectable objective discussion? I can't, It's too childish here. Btw from mid-April, I'll be in Israel so I can see the thistle bloom(;

This is so full of fallacies and a gross distortion of reality that I don't know where to begin.

WTF!? How is that "Lolz"? If Hamas lays down its weapons and frees the hostages the war will be over immediately. You basically behave like a standard teenage internet troll.

The Chatgtp version: In the meadow's arid grasp, where plants wither and gasp, Stands the thistle, bold and grand, defying drought's demand. While others wilt and fade away, its verdant hue won't sway, For the thistle, ever tough, in resilience, reigns each day.

If you find them beautiful, that's fine. But with all due respect, Palestinians are not doing a great job "surviving" given how they have thrown themselves at the feet of the Israelis by committing 7/10. If Palesestians lay down their weapons and release the hostages there will be no more war. If Israel lays down its weapons they will be murdered. If Palestinians wanted two states they could have waited for a center-left Israeli government that virtually always makes reasonable proposals. The thistle is a special plant, even when the whole meadow has dried up and all the plants are dying down, the thistle will still be green and going off.

@Nivsch The thistles are blooming I see. They are one of my favorite plants because they can survive in arid and hostile conditions and yet are so beautiful. Maybe a metaphor for something, I don't know(;

A girl, I can intuit I'll have at least one girl.

I was expressing my admiration and respect for Latino culture which I personally hold in high regard, how is that feeling superior? I have been to almost every country in South America. Mostly for the nature but I also love to observe and experience other cultures, don't be so petty and sour if you think I have some observations wrong.

I told you it was a dogmatic view. When I told her I don't mind Palestinians having some of the land she thought of me as some kind of meek fool. People in the Middle East don't fuck around. It's quite literally an all-or-nothing mentality and no alternative worldviews are tolerated. You can see it in how they are cheering on "armed resistance" even if it means that the brothers they supposedly "love" will get hammered down. These people don't think like you and me.

There are still substantial checks on his power. Serious leaders and commanders don't take advice from him but he can manage to squirm in some populist measures here and there. He is an unhinged nutcase which is problematic but he is also kind of predictable and really not that powerful when it comes to serious national decision-making. Relatively recently I met an Assyrian girl from Iraq and she told me that for her it is crystal clear that the land belongs to Jews and not Palestinians. It was a somewhat dogmatic statement but just to show you the diversity of thought in the region. In her eyes, as an Assyrian, she along with other indigenous Middle Eastern nations like the Copts, Berbers, Kurds and JEWS are the true indigenous nations of the Middle East that got conquered, overrun and out-populated by the Arabs who were originally only indigenous to the Arab peninsula. I heard a similar story from an Egyptian Coptic taxi driver. This kind of paradigm is no more dogmatic than the highly toxic and untruthful "white colonial-indigenous" paradigm some Western left-wing extremists project onto Israel. To be clear personally I believe the land belongs to both Jews and Arabs. Furthermore, I would say that Jews also have the right to the lands in other Middle Eastern countries they are from or were part of their homeland. But just the same Arabs have the right to Israel's land. So for example in some ideal future a Jew can go skiing in Lebanon and have a vacation home there and a Lebanese can go scuba diving in the Red sea in Southern Israel and invest in some property there. However, current reality does not allow for this so a two-state solution is the best we can do realistically which is already hard enough and might not even work out.

Oke, it's just that Polish people I don't consider as scoring particularly high with the chill factor because they are much more fiercely nationalistic. (which might be understandable, no judgment.)

What about "healthy ambitious", like Poland. They are much more fierce and defensive of their culture and nation. But they do not seek expansion so they have the full right to put protective measures on their culture and society.

Also depends on what kind of ambitions. Ukraine struck me as an exceptionally chill country before the war. Their main ambition was to just better themselves and join Europe.

Still, some cultures more than others are severely missing in the "chill factor". Life in South America is poor, hard, and unequal yet the people have a certain attitude and chill in life. Sure I might get robbed there by some bad actors in a big city but that's about it. Despite often being religious Latino culture scores very high with the chill factor. In South America they just had one major war in the 19th century and that's it. The problem is definitely deeper than just stage blue Islam.

That statement would have been within integrity if the "brothers fighting" were just squabbling with limits to their intensity and never crossing certain lines. But this is not what's happening. Arabs have no qualms about brutally massacering, torturing each other and running bombs through busy markets. In the trend of Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and more. If the Arabs were not such a people prone to riff-raff and extremist behaviors they would have guilted the early idealist Zionists a long time ago in just giving them their state or a one state solution. Disclaimer: my statements are not meant to demonize or hurt anyone. There are plenty of decent and respectable people among the Arabs. Bennet is also a worldly tech millionaire (that's orange) and his blue is highly healthy healthy and integral. Ben Gvir is a nutcase but Bennet represents a more upright, decent and integral side of religious Zionism which is about 20% of Israel's population.

Things that made the Soviet Union great: Soviet Science, cinema, art and cultural emphasis on high culture and education. Things that made the Soviet Union shitty and evil: Politics, poverty, unsafety, repression and corruption. Russian art is deep and wise. (my profile name and picture is just one little example.)

The smear campaign marches onward I see. Go study the victims of 7/10 and what kind of people these were. It's absolutely laughable how you guys dare to have the balls to claim you know Israelis while engaged in your crusade of bias, deceit and demonization.