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A psychedelic produced ego death is radical, it is radical when Conciousness expands to the whole universe and beyond and it is not really the same during meditation, meditation is a more smooth transition in my experience but it doesn't have to, it can be very out of the blue too. But psychedelics is pretty profound, some say meditation is sufficent, in my experience it is not really, ofcourse meditation can be sufficent but they are not really the same, both have their place, but Conciousness on psychedelics is different imo

Amazing!? I noticed after a couple relationships, long terms all of them, that forgiveness and the ability to communicate with eachother is on top of the list in whats important in a relationship

Haha and it is amazing ?

@Shmurda I saw something from Tom Campbell saying that the price was claimed he just didnt deliver, not 100% sure about this tho

Christianity is imo underrated tho not the extreme dogmatic ones, but the mystical part of it, and that it is more love oriented then other religions

https://youtu.be/cJIBQMvBHoc

@RedLine @RedLine @RedLine Ken Wilber still speaks about the Absolute spirit and unchanging ground, does not theravada deny a substrate to reality? I might be wrong tho! , check out Sri Aurobindo, plotinus etc, they also realized it, difference is that they unified everything into a single whole and tat tvam asi, nirvana is samsara. Emptiness is form form is emptiness The one for plotinus is neither being nor non being, but what the one is and what the one does is the same, check out plotinus, he was a mystic and as enlightened as any theravada Monk. Theravada does not have a monopoly or is the highest. Being/nonbeing is talked about in all different traditions. Meister eckhart etc. The godhead is as it were not.

@RedLine The thing is there is equally as much evidence of life keeps going after death as it is oblivion, it is as much evidence for GOD as there is evidence against GOD. It is sick to recognize that one can postulate and experience radically different things and then another part can come up with exactly why it is not that way at all, we are in a bind no matter what frank says, or Leo or anyone else, one has to go with what feels right i guess. The thing is we cant capture reality in a way that is consistent with everything. Frank makes metaphysical claims about the nature of reality by his experiences, as does Leo, and Frank cant possibly know what Leo is refering too with GOD and infinity, and same goes for Leo with Frank. Thats why one should always take everything with a grain of salt. It should be obvious by now that non dual schools has different approaches, and who is to say which one is right? Buddhism is known for its atheistic moralistic religion and nirvana is non existence. But as I said there are other interpretations of buddhism that goes along the lines with advaita vedanta and neo platonism etc. Both Leo and Frank are right and also both are wrong in someways.

@Being Frank Yang Thanks for sharing?

@wildflower ofcourse the truth is opposed to survival in a way but then again it is not. For example, kashmir shaivism tradition is more life affirming, it deals with truth and also how to live the good life and grow and evolve as a human being, it does not treat the world as an illusion but as a manifestation of the Absolute and that is what everything is. Infinite appearing as this. Thats the truth, it is not some non existence void which is truth and this here is a delusion, talk about a funny view of reality, i can understand why one would claim life is suffering if one wants to cease to exist. Life is suffering and JOY and everything in between. It is nothing and everything. If the ultimate truth was a pure denial of survival there would have been alot of spiritual Masters who just died apparently, thats not really the case. One can realize the truth and still let life flow through you as the expression of the Ultimate. Non duality is right here right now. This right in front of you is precisely the truth.

https://youtu.be/BbPl906-PL4

@wildflower LOL metaphysical claim, his nothingness is no further then GOD. buddhism which is famous for atheism speaks about GOD and claim nothingness is beyond, dont you see the irony in that? It is atheistic and materialism in a religion form. He has no clue at all about GOD obviously. A life denying teaching is what that is.

@wildflower https://youtu.be/-_QNT-TH6rE @RedLine

You cant capture infinity and Reality and say oh it is this way but no that way, in the beginning NETI NETI is a great thing but one should see that even if Frank and Leo talks about differences, it is still A MIND who is doing the interpreting, like Frank, he is doing metaphysical claims all the time and he pisses at Leo for doing it too, lol it is unavoidable.. Infinity includes and transcends it all, it is impermanent/permanent, it is everything and nothing. In his stages with GOD / NOTHINGNESS / CESSATIONS etc, that is pure MIND who puts its "experiences" on top of others, making a claim that this "experience" is more important then another, YEAH for him perhaps, likewise LEO has another, i dont doubt the wokeness of any of them, they certainly are.

@RedLine @wildflower Buddhism today is more of materialism then any other religion, they only believe in phenomena and they ultimate is sorta nihil void non existence. It is a certain type of individuals that takes that metaphysical claim and wants it. Look at the godless religion and see that it is viewing everything as suffering and their whole point is non existence lol. There is a different interpretation of buddhism which is before the theravada interpretation, the Nikayas, buddhism was exactly like advaita vedanta, it was the path to the godhead/absolute/brahman. And the soul was the goal, transcendence. You gotta remember that certain claims about reality is dogma and a bias which is a totally metaphysical claim, according to their beliefs. Take the ontological claims a bit loosely, it is interpreted by a mind, conciousness knows itself thats how it is, but hpw the mind wants to box it in afterwards is totally a bias. I can sincerely doubt that people who claim that they really grasped GOD realization in its whole for just 5 seconds would afterwards create a duality and say that something is beyond oe higher then that, no thats a interpretation of your mind. The thing is , when Conciousness recognizes INFINITY and that it is that, both fucking buddhism and Leos are absolutly 100% right both of them, lol infinity says all, its a sealed deal, infinity means it never ends, is everything and nothing, it can be however it wants to appear, unlimited. Thats why to try to box it in with your mind is impossible. It cant be contained, not with language, only conciousness can grok it because it is existence and reality itself. It transcendence everything yet in everything

Done it twice and it is a nice but twisted substance haha , for me the whole world got turned so it was almost on the side and I was going to a 7eleven to buy some bubble water and that 7eleven is pretty small but it was insanely large at that moment haha it was the biggest 7eleven ive ever been in ?and I could hold my breath forever it felt like.

I would say that you should stop trying to push for insights and spirituality for a while, listen to Leo's meditation episode and work on that skill, let go of reading and thinking alot about this stuff and think that you will miss something, no relax that attention and focus on the present, without attachments or that you want something to happen or to gain, try it and just be open to existence, thats my advice ?

You need to find your why, ive struggled with addictions like my entire life more or less, and ofcourse it is relative on how strong those addictions were, but in my experience i noticed that in order to change a behaviour and habbit is to find a why to why you want the change and focus on it and it will get start to grow

Try to relax your mind, look around you, appreciate this moment, and say to yourself that it is fine i will figure stuff out but for this moment i will just relax, try to find satisfaction and look at existence and feel it, without expecting something to happen or that you need answers, answers will come sooner or later IF you relax your attention qnd focus on existence, conciousness and just being

@Purple Man The Absolute is fullness and voidness. I dont understand why we try to always seperate the two, it is inconsistent. It is possibility and actuality and the one would not be without the other. What the good is and what the good does is one and the same

Congrats ?

One question is this, when spiritual awakening happens, why is it universal that the fear of death instantly vanishes? It is obvious conciousness has been forever at that moment and that there is no where to go

It is still NDE's where there is zero brain activity that one finally feels free and become one with All, if one studies NDE's. I dont know what happens after death but iam looking forward to know about it but not until it is my time ? Either i will know it or not. But materialism just try to explain away every NDE's as hallucination but there is zero evidence for that since the brain has no output or activity. Materialism explain everything away as hallucination when they can't contain it in their limited view of reality, ever noticed that? We do understand conciousness better then any scientist trying to explain it away with abstract theories. Mystics and meditation Masters is in my honest opinion "people" who understand conciousness. Not a lab coat who studies electrical activity of the brain. Is it not weird that we can explain much but not that which is the most fundamental to who we are? Life and conciousness

The materialism approach * Science cant say what the things are just how it behaves, if they make a claim about reality it is metaphysics. We have been brain washed with the metaphysics of materialism our entire life. If one smashes the radio, does the signal also die? The nature of impermanence is applicible to death as well. Look when winter is here and all plant life is "dead" just to be resurrected at spring. Reality does not come and go, it is always there in one form or another, and thats your truest nature. The ground of being is pure potential and awareness.