Gesundheit

Why should there be imagination first? Where in the universe is that written?

You should have a similar vision for your future together. If not, then chances are you won't last for long. Because sooner or later, you will find yourself living in a different reality, and you won't be able to connect to him, and you probably won't be able to take it anymore (he probably won't find it as problematic, though).

Reality is hierarchical. Physical reality is prior to imagination, but nevertheless, imagination still affects physical reality.

Insight: A "point" is a stage Orange concept of pragmatism.

You're being vague here about the emotional problem you're dealing with. This could be a victim mindset hiding itself from yourself and others. I think you should further elaborate on what that problem is so that we can have a more comprehensive view of the matter. Maybe you're actually just being lazy, maybe not. But we won't probably be able to know unless you are more transparent. Or do you mean that you're feeling bad because you're gf is making more money than you? If this is the case, then you should feel bad because you're probably being lazy. I mean, given that you both have the same job, why wouldn't you make similar money? A little bit less is fine and understandable, but you're saying she's making most of your income. To me, this is a red flag on your side.

Capitalism is designed to further enrich the rich, and further impoverish the poor. It keeps expanding the gaps between the three major classes, until society becomes feudal, which is the next stage. And that is guaranteed regardless of the circumstances.

Evanesco!

I don't see why that thread should be locked. At least there needs to be an explanation.

Watch documentaries on both and judge for yourself.

Also to master and fully integrate.

Love does not have to make sense

Oh my God! What a ground breaking realization! Time is awareness/growth. This is a huge discovery for me, because it will change the whole approach that I was applying here. Instead of trying to force awareness onto the process, I should let it flow spontaneously with time. The end results are inevitable and guaranteed as long as I'm not resisting. There is no escaping the next level unless I resist by trying to get to the next level. The patterns will unravel automatically once they're no longer necessary, and there will be a point where they're no longer necessary, a point where they have completely achieved their purpose and therefore seen by awareness as pointless. The mistake would be to try to stop the patterns. That's ego, and it won't work. It'll just keep itself at the same level, and maybe shift forms, but not really expand. Do not do awareness. Let awareness do you, and watch. Time + flow = maximum growth Time + resistance = minimum growth Now I realize that this is what Nahm talks about. That guy is a God in and of himself.

@Vlad_ For life to have a point, it must already be a point. But it isn't. Life is a process. It's flowing and flowering. You can't capture any single moment of it and savor it, and think that this is it. You can try, but it won't work. Tl:dr... We keep living until we die, that's the point.

Perhaps we don't have the right ideology.

Cool! And what's a goal but an idea? In a sense, a goal is an imaginary prison that we inhabit until we break out of, and realize it was illusory. So if your goal is freedom, then good luck with that lol. And I'll be free either way, no credits whatsoever to the whole no-ideology thing. I didn't say I knew, I said it doesn't seem. I generally pick up intuitive clues and glue them together and they make my assessments. Again, I don't feel like you actually do. Because I actually am already familiar with everything you are saying cuz I've been following actualized.org for almost 5 years. And now I am proposing a new perspective that even Leo does not seem to have. So you're not really providing an alternative for me, you're actually just repeating what I have been applying in the past few years.

Nice philosophy! Now prove it in practice. Just for fun, and for the sake of Love and Goodness, try a cup of this: Recommended by God, the infinite love. Take your time. Try it, and then come here and read what you have written above. It'll probably make even more sense then.

Freedom from what? And stuck where? These are relative concepts that assume an end goal. So it depends on the goals I have set for myself, and it can be simply my choice to not have a goal and be either ideological or non-ideological, nevertheless. And that would not make me stuck, because there'd be nowhere else I'd want to be. You see? How is that working for you? I am trying to get some point across, but your thinking mind is not getting it. It doesn't seem to me like you have the complete freedom you're talking about. It seems you're "stuck" in some "non-ideological" position which is preventing the understanding I'm offering.

I can let go and detach, and I can also hold on and attach. Both options have always been the case and anyone can choose between either of them because freedom is inherent in reality, not because of lack of ideology. The only difference here is that the freedom will be recognized after that realization instead of being unacknowledged. Non-ideological ideology can help us recognize the already present freedom, but it does not give it to us. Notice that in letting go and detaching yourself from ideology, you won't be able to have an ideology (I mean another ideology next to the one applied), which makes you limited in actuality to freedom. You will become a slave who chooses to wear his cuffs thinking that you're actually free, when in fact, you simply traded one pair of cuffs for another and thought that you've bought freedom. You think that now you finally have the freedom to choose? Well, you've been tricked.

The future is absolute infinity.

@peanutspathtotruth What I said was not hostile. None of it was. I said that you are closed-minded, and that's correct because you're not entertaining the question that I proposed, and moreover you turned this into a personal issue when it wasn't and said that I was rambling and arguing when I'm actually being very serious with this discussion. You started the discussion with me with a question, and I replied to it without any offence to your person even though your intentions were obvious. I have enough emotional maturity to separate the person from the discussion. Show me one example of me being offensive to you here. These accusations are false and I deny them entirely, and in fact I should report you to the mods, but I won't cuz I'm not offended yet. It's absolutely not my problem if someone identifies themselves as ideas and feel offended if someone attacks the ideas, because here all we do is deconstruct ideas. And btw, that's basically what ideologues are about. They feel threatened by the questioning of their narratives and ideologies. I personally don't put any ideas on a pedestal. Everything is to be questioned, and if you can't handle it, then at least remain silent instead of preaching and projecting. And just because you disagree with me, does not make your opinions more correct. You can express your opinions without accusing other persons. And you would do a lot better if you would forget the history you have in your mind of someone and read what they say objectively as if it's your first time reading from them. I may have used a somewhat offensive language in other threads, but most of it is to grab attention, not to attack people, contrary to what you're doing here. Regardless of whether the history you have of others is correct or not, it creates biases, such as this one here. And you end up wasting your time and my time and everyone's time with something that is actually your work to do but you didn't do it for whatever reasons, and it manifested in this conversation.

It has everything to do with it, but honestly you're closed-minded.

That's complete delusion. How do you distinguish between silence and sound?

Can a human take an antibiotic and kill billions of bacteria, and still be in a state of heaven? It doesn't matter, because there is no free will anyway. In my experience, no. In reality, I don't know.

You will keep attaching until you get really hurt, tired, and detach.