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@John Paul I'm very familiar with Sam Garrett and his music as well as his time at Mooji's ashram. From my POV, this video is Stage Green singing kirtan about a Stage Blue religion. I've been to many kirtans just like this...it's as Green as it gets IMO. Can you share more about what aspects resonate as Turquoise for you?

@John Paul Beautiful song, but this is Stage Green.

Jamie Wheal wrote in his new book "Recapture The Rapture" what he calls Cheat Codes for the Infinite Game. Curious to hear what others think. He claims it's the only Western distillation of Truth that is not tied to dogma or tradition... The Game has an infinite number of levels in an infinite number of dimensions. ■ The purpose of the Game is to remember you are playing it (anamnesis). ■ The more levels of the Game you remember you’re playing, the more fun (and consequential) the Game becomes. ■ Higher levels of the Game bleed through into 3D: They often show up as coincidences, synchronicities, or absurdity. This is a “known issue” best taken as a reminder that the Game is afoot (and held loosely). ■ The 3D level is the access point to all the other levels of the Game. If you die at the 3D level of the Game, it is Game Over (unless or until proven otherwise). So no matter what, don’t die in 3D! ■ Don’t say anything, or think anything that you don’t want to become more true. ■ Once you’ve figured out the Game, help turn as many NPCs (nonplayer characters) into Players and Players into Architects as you can. ■ Stay awake. Build stuff. Help out.

Is it "true" that I as God will experience life through each individual's limited ego perspective, since God is infinite? In other words, I as God will experience life through "the eyes" of each person I pass by on the street in another lifetime? Therefore, if I punch someone in the face, I will experience the pain of the punch when I reincarnate as that person, so therefore I would never want to cause another harm (in theory at least)? Is this train of thought on-point?

@cookiemonster Thanks!

@Godishere Well this is the question. But if God is truly Infinite, it would in theory mean that God would experience each lifetime through the eyes of the person that is appearing in "my ego's" dream, no?

@PlayOnWords I'm not sure what makes this specifically Yellow vs Green. It could probably fall into either category, but the fun play on words alone doesn't make it Yellow. Love Eno though!

@PlayOnWords That's a very young Jamie Wheal asking the question to Ken! What a brilliant answer.

Is this true? Is the consciousness that is aware of this all that there is? Or are there multiple consciousness bubbles which pop in and out of Oneness?

@blackchair I agree, it came up short on the solutions and positive ways to transmute trauma.

@blackchair I'm curious as a documentary filmmaker, do you care to elaborate about how you felt about the film and its content?

One of his strengths is also one of his limitations: he sees the entire world through the lens of trauma. It's an important and super valid lens, but ultimately if it's the ONLY lens it becomes a distorted view of reality and limits other perspectives which could actually further inform the trauma topic and provide a more multi-perspectival approach. I'm not saying Gabor doesn't independently research these other lenses on his own, but when he speaks publicly, he almost exclusively speaks with trauma-tinted glasses on, which makes sense given it's his speciality, but again, has limitations as well. Someone with a center of gravity at Yellow would be more likely to bring in other dimensions and create a more complex map of reality. For example, Jamie Wheal is a neuroscientist but doesn't only talk about the world through that lens because he sees how limited that one viewpoint is in understanding the full portrait of humanity.

I might be taking the Sensemaking course with RW. Currently taking their Live Player course which I feel has been excellent so far. Yes, it's a good way to meet likeminded folks out there Agree, a video where Leo talks more in-depth about the limitations of Stage Yellow would be interesting, though I suspect by the time most people are at Stage Yellow they're already fairly aware of what those limitations are

I'm very familiar with his work. I see him as high Green. I don't see many Yellow qualities, but he's certainly a highly evolved Green center of gravity. I enjoyed his new movie - definitely worth watching if you're interested in trauma, addiction, the failures of western medicine, etc.

New interview with Obama that is an excellent example of multi-perspectival Stage Yellow thinking. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/01/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-barack-obama.html

Watched this @Leo Gura video again today and have a few questions: 1. This somewhat elaborate explanation of Reality as being an infinite number of fractals with different degrees of consciousness all working towards reuniting in the singularity (Godhead) makes sense but feels counter to some of Leo's other teachings which are along the lines of, "You are God. This is it. What you are experiencing right now is the entire Universe." How can there be both an infinite number of fractals as well as only this one experience being perceived right here right now? Is what I'm experiencing right here right now simply one fractal or the entire Universe? Or both (and if so, how)? 2. Does God/Love have a preference or desire between: -Humans evolving for centuries longer (hence getting closer to Godhead) -Humans blowing themselves up with nuclear bombs Is one preferred by Love, or are they both equally Love since the nature of everything is Love? If the latter, besides for our selfish human survival desires, is there also a metaphysical or God/Love reason to not blow ourselves up with nuclear bombs? 3. Perhaps I'm misrepresenting Leo, but in some of his latest videos I remember he says something like post-awakening there's really nothing left to do, but since he'd be bored doing anything else he just keeps making videos because it's fun and helps him deepen his own awakening. But in the video below, he makes a strong case for why being loving is so important and serving others, as if there are "others" to serve. Leo, thanks for any clarifications around this and how it relates to Life Purpose post-awakening.

Orange wet dream.

Who would you say are the deeply heart-centered spiritual teachers alive today? The ones who make you drop right into presence just hearing them speak. A few I'm drawn to currently: -Thomas Huebl -John Prendergast -Adyashanti -Tara Brach -Matt Kahn

Whoops, maybe this should have been posted in the Spirituality thread...

@TurquoiseAngel The Enneagram works by having one primary number and one wing. So you couldn't be three numbers. Do you mean you are a 5 with a 4 wing? Yes, the 1 fits me hand in glove. It's why I felt this particular map was so useful, because I truly embody so many of the characteristics of a 1, although I've outgrown most of the shadow aspects by now, or at least I'm aware of them and can recognize the patterning when it arises. These women have a funny channel that is a good way to get a gist of each number.

It's simply another map to help us understand our egos. I found it invaluable in recognizing some of my patterning, and it also helped me connect more with others. It's similar to Myers-Briggs but offers more tools for how to "integrate" into the highest version of our type. What number are you? I'm a 1 w/ 2 wing.

Healthy stage Orange psychology.

It appears clear to me that there's two factions of Stage Green with some overlap (think of a Venn diagram): 1. Woke Green (more politically oriented) 2. New Age Green (more spiritually oriented) Nearly all my New Age Green friends are opposed to the vaccine, including my girlfriend. Distrust of anything Orange is a natural and somewhat healthy part of moving through Green, though with the vaccine stuff it appears to me that this sentiment has been hijacked by group think and mass rebellion. I wrote an essay about my decision to get the vaccine using Spiral Dynamics to describe the various memetic tribes at play: https://medium.com/@tuckerwalsh/to-vaccinate-or-not-to-vaccinate-f918deabb352?postPublishedType=repub