Princess Arabia

Oh boy, you're doing the same thing here. Who are you to define what I should or should not express about how I feel about enlightenment.

Ok, will check them both out.

No limits mean unpolarized and unpolarized suggests neither dead nor alive. It is full and empty simultaneously. You say it's alive because it has no limits; well, that's a limit - to be alive.

This is like a night dream, except there's no one dreaming. The person is the dream. One doesn't say in a dream, this hammer doesn't hurt because it's just a dream, that shit hurts in the dream. Is the dream really happening or going anywhere or does it have a center or location. Is there a self in the dream. No one wakes up from the dream because there's no one and a dream to wake up from. When the body dies, the body dies and there's no one left to know that. There's no one here already, this is appearing as a sense, a sense that senses there's a person in this body. The body doesn't need a person to operate, it does it all on it's own. Decisions are decisions and actions are seeming to happen but no one is doing that.

Sure, why even discuss that, that's quite obvious. We're discussing the thing that's not that obvious and what really is the case. Locality is illusory, perspectives are illusory, there is no real substance to anything. Can't have totality...but. It is either total or it's not. The illusory stuff just isn't happening and doesn't exist. The only thing real is nothing which is appearing as everything and an appearance is void of substance.

No one is disputing the fact that feelings aren't felt and things aren't appearing as something is happening. Arguing that to drop a hammer on the foot and see if it doesn't hurt is not a valid claim to say that something is definitely happening because of that or that there's someone actually feeling anything. There's no proof there and nothing can be proven either.

There is no self and nothing is really happening, as for there to be something really happening, there has to be time and space existing on their own and this has to be going in a direction. This is directionless and isn't coming from anywhere nor going anywhere. If there is no observer time and space isn't a felt sense just as in sleeping.

There is no illusion. The only illusion is the appearance of a separate self. The illusion is the sense that there are people walking around in these bodies. The illusion is the one that thinks it's at the center and is located somewhere in time and space. It's a felt sense. It feels real, very real, very very real. To the point where it invents stories and ideas around it's existence and now every thing that appears is in relation to it. I'm over here and it is over there. That's the only illusion. There is no self as in a real person having free will in these bodies.

Lol

lol. The words "I", "achieved" and "enlightenment", shouldn't even be used in the same sentence. It's like a mixed match sandwich.

I guess you didn't notice her last paragraph. Same as you're saying here.

OK, so then I'm safe. Thanks.

Are you serious or are you kidding. If you're joking, then OK; if you're serious, what do you mean. I looked the movie up on YT and the full movie was on there and YT didn't block me from sharing it. Reported me for what? If it's something reportable, obviously I'm not aware of it or I wouldn't have done it...geesh.

You're not in jail right now or in the asylum or have gone mad because you're living by the senses. Lots of people are in jail right now, especially because of some drug or alcohol because the sense of self disappeared for a quick second and they weren't "themselves". "Oh my, I just lost it." What do you think they lost.

Lol. These are the questions that pop up when one thinks there's a person there choosing to do anything. What's the point? This is the point.

It's shit like this that made me start to question existence and curious about shit. Why. I know it's the drug but why. I don't ask why much about anything anymore. Not because I have the answers but one truth answers them all.

We get into self-inquiry or even other forms of practices that says we are not the body but yet we claim to objectify the person. Can we objectify a chair and see the chair as a person to be used. No, we already see it as an object, yet we don't claim the body to be what we are but get all worked up about someone objectifying us. Jf we are not the body, then what is the body, and if it's a thing/object where there's no person attached to it, who are we objectifying. See we make no sense at all with all our neurosis and trying to be a somebody in a dream world. This is why I questioned all of it. You are not the body but you take offense to someone seeing you as a sex object. All of what I say goes to me too as I'm also guilty of all this nonsense. It's the reason I'm able to 'see through it' (nothing to really see through). So there's never a pointing of the finger here. I wouldn't recognize something if I'm not familiar with it in some way shape or form. It's like talking from concepts only and not experiential even though there's no real experience or experiencer. You see, this shit is such fuckery that it's impossible to grasp and figure out and why i say I'm deluded. I'm happily deluded. I never want to get it all or get it somewhat. I want to stay deluded. I'm not deliberately deluding myself or not trying to figure anything out, but there's something here that really doesn't want to deconstruct entirely because it knows it's (Never figured out how to get this stupid thing back up when I accidentally hit the wrong button it keeps going further and further down, Jesus) annihilation, so it does and sees enough just to keep staying as a deluded individual. Not to do corrupted shit but as to not go entirely insane. Something here intuits this. It doesn't know it. I worry and cry and feel for people and feel empathy and compassion and advise and do all these things and more to keep the dream alive. I even make myself sick to make it appear even more real. There's no one doing any of this but that's the felt sense that thinks it's doing it. The sense goes in and out in and out but it's trying to stay in and that's what's keeping it alive. Every bit of writing that's claimed is that sense trying to stay alive. Every bit of talking to someone, responding to someone and feeling pain is an attempt to stay alive. Its not really there but it wants to continue to appear like it is. It gets frustrated because something knows its not real but it tries to hang on. It wants others to notice it, to agree with it, to believe what it believes, go do as it does (you do that but I wouldn't do that) you see that all the time how one will say how someone does something that they wouldn't do. It's an attempt to stay alive, to fit in. Why are you doing that if I wouldn't; you're my confirmation piece, please don't be that way because that's not how I am - notice that. Just about everyone does it without realizing why; criticize and judge others for doing things then say in the same breath "but i wouldn't have done that." Watch out for yourself doing it and others. That's not a bug. It's not a bug how we tend to think everyone is going through the same things were going through. We invent and imagine others how we see ourselves, would like to be or wish we weren't. It's fucking crazy.

There's a loophole in these teachings. I used to think self-inquiry was the best teaching and the closest to what really is the case until I investigated it further to see it speaks to the dream and the one that sees separation. How can what he's saying, which is the teachings of Nissargatta, be the case when there's no separation. Who is aware of what. The thing is, these teachers are also seemingly stuck as the dream so therefore they teach to the dream as the dream. The one that thinks there's something it can do to recognize a true self. There is no self, period. No higher self and no lower self. Call God self and that self is all there is. Everything is all there is so how can there be an awareness of something but only in the dream. How can no one see this. It's so obviously blatantly in our faces and is missed. Actually, it's not in our faces, it is the face and maybe it's so immediate and that's why it's overlooked. A lot of stuff that's quite obvious is overlooked. The one steady factor in all of this is the one looking. Take that away and all that's left is what is. Insisting on someone being there has seemingly and apparently corrupted these teachings and made the observer believe in a future; a future where there's something to achieve and get and hold unto. There's no one observing anything. Seeing itself it just happening. Seeing is itself being itself. Seeing without a person behind it. Stevie Wonder doesn't need to see to get Grammy's and perform as beautifully as he did. He's not doing anything. It's all simply just happening on it's own. Playing the piano happens all on its own whether the person is blind or not. Same as everything else in life. So there's no one to observe anything. It be aware of anything. There just simply is no one. That 'teaching' wouldn't fly so well and isn't marketable and not very well received even though there's no one to receive it, but it offers nothing so why bother. Even when I say it, I get asked what is the point. The dream wants to jkeep itself alive.

The movie Greenland on the blog. It's full movie on Youtube for free. Will watch later.

Imagine you had everything you ever wanted. Anything you could ever want for eternity. Really imagine that for a few minutes. Infinite cars, women, money, sex, houses, jewelry, friends, alcohol, drugs, entertainment, pets, whatever it is even if its spiritual as in higher consciousness, awakening, whatever you seek now in the spiritual work, imagine achieving it; all of it........WHAT NEXT. What will you seek then, look for then. If you had 10 hundred trillion dollars at your disposal and didn't have to work again; and not just, that everybody else had the exact same things. Everybody in the world had access to infinite cash and infinite everything FOR EVER. What next? You still have the same body but it never dies. The world still looks the same the only difference is nothing is lacking for anyone. There's still war and murders and rape and all. Please don't say well why would anybody rape if they have access to infinite women or steal if they had infinite money, etc, Rich people still steal and men with wives and who are getting and having sex, still rape. Just imagine not wanting for anything for ever and ever and it will always be like that for everyone and at all times FOREVER. Imagine all that with a body that never dies. Having all the riches you can possibly imagine and everyone has it too, forever because you never die, day in and day out every year for eternity, imagine this. Really sit with this reality. Suicidal yet.

We're trying to hang on for dear life. We create problems, we find solutions, then create some more problems. We look for issues. We find fault in people. We're doing all these things to feel. We wanna feel something, doesn't matter what it is. As long as I feel, then I know I'm alive. We self-sabotage just to feel. The feeling is the secret. We seek out others to help validate our own existence, no matter the cost. This "no one" message isn't taken to and well received. Who wants to hear that, so we invent all sorts of things to keep that going. Freedom is being that, God is being that. Same thing. The Divine, the Absolute. It's all there is. How can there be problems if God is all there is. The dream is very persistent. That's what's hanging on for dear life. All sorts of story inventions. The best stories ever to keep masquerading as a separate individual. You'll hear them on the forum, this is duality and we are humans living in a relative world with human problems and blah blah blah. Saying people are spiritually bypassing and ignoring the human side of things and whatever else. How can something not be what it is. We are either constantly reminding ourselves we are human or not human. Whichever one. Seems like were constantly trying to uphold an identity. As if we're not sure, as if it will fall apart if we don't acknowledge it. Trying to hang on. Some are constantly contemplating on their existence. Constantly trying to feel better about things. Constantly with the tool kit, banging away. How can I this, how can I that. No matter what it is, it's usually on how to feel better and have a better experience. This one just isn't good enough. This one sucks. Always. Never consistent. Good for a short while, then back to the tool kit again. What's worse is the amount of knowledge available to us now via the internet. Now we know what we're looking for; have an idea of how to make this happen. More expensive tools are needed to figure it out. There are no shortages of "self-help" tools. Hanging on for dear life. Then we look to annihilate it. After we build it up, we look to rear it down. Even in the mix of trying to annihilate it we search for things to build it up. We seek out personality tests and give the self fancy names; mjtb type, or whatever initial then we seek enlightenment in the same breath. I'm so done.

Goes with his name. Kinda cool. I bet you he's great to be around.

I'm so fat and I feel awful. My life is a mess, and I don't know what to do. My husband and I don't get along and we fight every day, At work the people I work with are making me so unhappy I don't know what to do. The neighbors are so friggin' noisy and keep me up all night. I'm so suicidal. FIVE YEARS LATER: I'm so fat and I feel awful. My life is a mess, and I don't know what to do. My husband and I don't get along and we fight every day. At work the people i work with are making me so unhappy I don't know what to do. The neighbors are so friggin noisy and keep me up all night i'm so suicidal. TEN YEARS LATER: Repeat. TWENTY YEARS LATER Repeat. FORTY YEARS LATER Body dies to reveal there was never a person there to begin with and the story was telling itself.

Purpose is limitation. The purpose of life, as we know it, is whatever purpose we want to give it. Not even to align with God because God is everything. Life, as we don't know it however, is purposeless. It doesn't need a purpose because it is boundless and free.

Can't have corruption without it's opposite. Why is everyone focused on the corrupt.