Princess Arabia

Yes, I'm entitled to not be used and tread upon like a piece of meat and used as some man's gas station like you suggested earlier. I would be embarrassed as a man to say I only see women as sex objects.

I don't expect guys in their 20's to get me so ill just have to understand that. It's a total different world. Go sow your oats a bit until reality kicks in when she starts to look at you differently and you realize your masculine power and how to utilize it.

@HojoLiving with a man and expecting him to pay the bills is not using him as an ATM. Im so tired of explaining things to you in this field. You'll get it in a few years....or not.

Out making money to pay the bills.

I never mentioned anything about love, but it certainly ain't for slaving either.

Only on a forum filled with testosterone and the women aren't allowed to speak up. Switch the gender with half the shit said here in this section and the responses will.be like what you just gave. Imagine women saying all they want is money from men and men ain't worth shit their time like what @Hojoboy said earlier about women. Or I look at men as ATM machines like Mr Manuel bon says how he see women as objects and Mr Aion says, he plays women for sex and pays for their meals until he gets into their pants. If I said I play men for their money until I get it then treat them like shit, I'd be ostracized and told I'm a whore or whatever. I see how you guys can get away with saying pretty much anything you want to about women and us ladies have to WATCH OUT. I'm getting sick and tired of this forum's misogyny and hatred of women talk and as soon as I open my mouth I better watch out or tone it down or don't answer too much. One response is enough. Gtfoutta here.

Like I said, who let the boys out. Thank God real men are out enjoying women and having a blast in their company. They can't even get enough, from what I've heard. I'm out. Can't let the energy vampires drain my feminine energy today.

Ok. Depends on where you're from. Doesn't matter if it's his 4th wife. That wasn't the point. He's still not looking for women to serve him. Most men aren't who can serve themselves or hire someone to. I'm not referring to sexually here. I'm just going to leave this section alone and just wait for the ass whooping by Someone here, when he sees my comments. Who let the boys out.

Exactly. Why mention a wife then. Only when one is oblivious to the queues in communication styles would you see that as just normal. It is normal when all you're thinking of is yourself not just talking about yourself. There's a difference.

Do you think Melania is serving Donald dinner, giving him tedious massages and sucking his dick nightly. Do you think the rich wives of rich husband's are doing these things, but they're married anyway. Conditioning my friend, conditioning. This is what has failed us. Using each other as slaves. Men are built for certain things and so are women. A woman can nurture her husband just by being there. But only a masculine man can recognize and appreciate that. When a woman can make a man want to strive for excellence to support her and the family and to allow for her to be in her feminine energy will he learn to love and respect her and want to be with her. Not when he's using her as a sex slave or a maid. His eyes will wander for the princess and queen he wants to work for and who he can go all out for to prove he's worthy of her love. Ok, I'm back to reality and to all the naysayers, save it and don't even bother because I'm only dreaming.

Oh my. That's all imma say.

Notice how many times the word "I" got used in the OP. Every other sentence has the word "I" in it.

Serving dinner, giving massages, and sucking dick is not considered working together. He proposed those things as what a wife does. That's what I'm responding to. If they so happen, that's fine but a wife need not perform chores for her husband to be considered a wife. Notice he mentioned nothing about serving her or what might make her happy to be with him, only what will make him happy. That's not working together.

It's not so much that one likes or don't like doing the above-mentioned chores, it's that they have been made requisites for marriage. I enjoy cooking , but if it's a requisite for a happy marriage then it's a chore. I should be able to do or not do on my own accord. So if she loves doing those things, then that's perfectly fine as long as if she stops, it's not a problem.

I feel sorry for that poor wife if those are her duties. Sounds more like a sex maid. Unfortunately a lot of women don't know any better and have been conditioned into thinking they need to be a maid to be a wife. So demeaning. That's why you have a crush on those European girls because they don't remind you of maids. Unfortunately, they won't fit your bill and you'll have to settle for the one that will suck your ting-a-ling when you come home from a hard day's work and open up the massage parlor for you with dinner served on a platter.

Yes, but it's true that they pretend..it's the nature of the business. The guys who go there knows this, so this makes it true. How can they not deep down know this. How can somebody like you intimately that doesn't even know you. C'mon. Depraved or not.

I get what you're saying and that's a different nightlife situation there in Japan. No doubt it's the case what you're saying, but also what I'm saying. I've had men at a bar with their wives right next to them hitting on me as a working girl to go be with them asking if I had a room. Laughing with their wives next to me and she didn't even know. I've had men calling their wives telling them they love them while setting up a date with someone else. Doesn't sound depraved to me. I've seen judges and lawyers and doctors, all married. These men aren't depraved. I've seen police officers at a cop conventions, these men aren't depraved. I've had men telling me I should go on OF so they can subscribe, those men weren't depraved and were sexually active. You just don't get it. Men fantasize about this shit and most of the older ones aren't in it for anything personal because they're family men, they just want the fantasy of it all.

The adult field is selling a fantasy. What is the definition of fantasy. Please don't expect anything different just because you have mistakenly taken the business how you shouldn't. It is in the definition. It's a lie to begin with on both sides. It's rather silly to look at it as lying and deceitful when thats what the business itself is selling. Do these men really love these women. No.

@RendHeavenWhat you're missing is that guys will pay you to lie in this field. They even have a name for it. Its.called the GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE. They will pay a woman to act as their gf. That's just one aspect. I've personally told guys I'm not comfortable with something and they would up their fee just for me to pretend. THIS BUSINESS MAKES THEIR PROFITS ON DELIBERATE LIES. Meaning the men want these lies. Don't rebut me on this because it's true. They don't want their wives to lie but they want these working girls to. They'll pay you to pretend and lie to them. Not in all instances but what I'm saying is, it's a thing. Lying about poisons in food to unsuspecting consumers us way more detrimental than a working girl pretending to like her client.

Leo promised a course a year ago. Havent seen or heard nothing about it since. Does he fit into this category of broken promises.

"I don't care about you. I hate you and you disgust me. I'm only pretending to care so I can get your money". Really? See how.well that works for business in any field. @RendHeaven

@RendHeavenWhy would a man look to a prostitute for love and care. You say of course she doesn't care and youre not looking for her to care but don't lure you with fake promises. Sounds weak and not putting responsibility on yourself as an adult. Do you know how many men have promised women this and that and lied to them just to get in their pants. Do you know what those women did, they grew up and stopped believing in the lies, took responsibility and started to vet these men and not give in as easily. What do you do. Complain that these workers are lying to you. Food industries lie everyday.about what's in their food. These are adult workers for Christ's sake, leave them alone and go get you a real girl if you don't want them lying to you. Real girls will lie even more but atleast the working girls are upfront with their lies from the get go by you knowing they are working.

@RendHeavenYou will never know the truth unless you've lived this life. I've been dealing with this kind of thing for 20+yrs and i have massive experience with different types of men in all areas in this field and similar fields. I'm not talking out my ass and I myself have been shocked over and over again by the things some of these men like, want and are attracted to. It varies and the adult industry caters to all different types. Most of you guys are talking from speculation and probably how you personally feel about the business. I'm speaking from direct communication, direct interactions, personal stories, friends stories and just overall knowledge of the business and its different levels. OF patrons will be different than strip club patrons who will be different from massage parlor patrons who will differ from escort patrons who differ from internet porn watchers, who may differ from street walker fans to high end hooker fans to.....you name it and everything in between and combined. So whatever I've said, I'm speaking from what I know to be the case and then some. I'm the one dealing with these men you're not, even though there are different types; and of course, I'm only in my small little circle compared to the millions who enjoy these services. A lot also has to also do with age, marital status and if they are single, amongst other things. The adult industry caters to a wide variety of different types of men and what they're looking for. So, yes, I said what I said but all I've said is the case for a certain breed of men and what they are attracted to in the field. OF is just one avenue for them to explore. That said, yes, you will find the delusional men that seek out adult workers for relationships and look to find real love. That's on them and are very few and afar compared to the many that are just looking to fulfill a fantasy they cannot get elsewhere.

Everybody doing this shit.

The body doesn't care about happiness, the mind does. Happiness doesn't care who's happy, it comes and goes as a response. Happiness doesn't have a problem. The one that claims it does.