Princess Arabia

I never said you didn't have an awakening. The only awakening that can take place is the dream awakening to itself. NOTHING, which is God/Absolute/All there is, cannot awaken to itself because it is everything. "Awaken to" is duality, which is not really happening but only to an observer. The person that was born and will die is the one that awakened, it actually didn't awaken it fell asleep. Now it's awake again without the substance.

"Tearing down" like you said I was doing to you, suggests a construction being torn down ISN'T IT. You see, you believe youre saying these words but they speak for themselves and that's why the construct used words like "tearing down" without being conscious of it's implication. Energy can read energy. There's something within energy that can resonate with itself. That's what I'm doing with you even though there's no me and no you.

CORRECT. No one exists because there's simply no one. Not even you.

Verifying suggests separation and a person that verifies something other than it. Direct experience is an illusion because there is no direct in all there is and no real experience where there is no separate thing or person to have. This is immediacy already and cannot be truly experienced but only in the dream of separation. Yes, the egoic separate structure is genius. It has emerged from Wholeness and appears as it's own design and is baked into it's own design. Without it there is nothing as in deep sleep. It emerged as a separate entity and from there geniosity of it building it's structure and design begins and that's why it also has an end. The ego is genius. You are constantly looking for love and showering yourself with love. Everything you do is out of love using the most subtle yet seeming effective means possible as in sex, romance, money, addictions, desire, cravings, yearnings, wantings, etc.etc these are ways the person showers itself with love and everything in your life is there to keep you in the dream deeper and deeper as the I AM. To gain these realizations for yourself is correct. Only for yourself because you are all there is in your own dream reality, hence Solpisism. Solipsism is only true for you as the dream. There is no other only empty bodies. Thoughts are now owned and is intertwined with the dream; and of course, now they only respond to you. Everything now is personal for the person even thoughts which are simply another happening and appearing just like clouds and a banana. The dream thinks it's thinking. It relates to everything personally even thoughts. Yes, aren't you always communicating with yourself. Every moment, every sec is a communication with yourself. You're always communicating with yourself even when there seems to be communication with others as there are no others. It's a matter of are you listening. So much genius put into the construction of a self every nook and cranny exactly. That's the self. Every bit is the self construct. Every thought, idea, story, life experience, memory, all of it and it defies all possibility.

I never said anything was bad. Just the fact you interpreted it as me saying it was bad without me saying anything was bad and shouldn't be the case, speaks for itself. Those words in your comment speaks for themselves. The adjectives you use, as in "tearing down", "get a high off" and telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about. Nobody does. These are just words uttering themselves. Without an interpreter, they ate useless. I will quote what I mean when I say construct and break it down for you. I will do that separately. Just keep in mind there is no actual separation and this is timeless and boundless and free and whole.

It's not really a blunder nor a mistake. I said that for emphasis. Notice you're using your eyes to see this message while i'm using mine to write this message. Different eyes seeing the exact same thing. My sense of sight sees what your sense of sight sees. My cat and I are sitting in the room. An explosion occurs outside. We both jump. A cat hears the same thing a human hears not to mention her ears are on a cat's body with a total different make up. You're in a room talking with a friend. Your mom walks in. Both sees mom. Different heads, different bodies, different sets of eyes, both sees the same exact person. I smell toast burning you smell toast burning. Two separate bodies smelling the same things simultaneously. Yet if you hit me upside the head, I'm the only one that will feel it. I understand it's direct contact; but it's direct contact also with sight and smell. Why aren't you feeling the hit upside the head just like us smelling the burnt toast together. That's direct contact of the sense of smell. Two people turn their heads witnessing the same car accident from different bodies, different sets of eyes. How's my cat seeing the neighbor with her cat eyes and I'm seeing the neighbor with my human eyes. A million people at a rally watching the same speaker. A million different sets of eyes seeing the same speaker. I see a snake, you see the same snake, the snake sees both of us. Different sets of eyes seeing the same things. How's that happening. I will wait for the "the same thing looking out my eyes is the same thing looking out your eyes" generic response. Whose feeling what I'm feeling. I'm very curious to see the responses and comments to this topic. I say blunder because everything else seems so separate but this one thing is obvious unity.

Replace the I AM dream with God and it is so. Everything else is just nothing being everything including your awakening. It's the dream of separation which is also the dream of I AM. I AM is all there is in that reality and that is Solipsism. There is only the I AM to itself. Without the I AM there is only what is, being. Look into every nook and cranny of what you said and that's the construction of the I AM to a tee except the God forgetting who it is part. God didn't forget anything you are remembering as the dream. The dream is storytelling to itself. The dream has awakened to itself, but it doesn't realize it's a dream.

Remembering doesn't need another's existence. Remembering is happening all on it's own. I do not remember. Memory is appearing. It doesn't need an existence of me to appear. The me is what owns memory. "You exists as it" is duality. There is no you to exist as it. There is just "it". "When you become God" suggests time and space and continuity. Those are illusions. I'll leave this alone; it can go on infinitely as in the nature of storytelling, which is exactly what's occurring here. The dream is infinite imagination.

There are bodies appearing all right, just no one inside them. We actually feel our own projected sense of self and we assume other's are also feeling but they're not it's feeling happening on it's own. That's another discussion. Also there is no within the Absolute. It's all Absolute. Within suggests measurement and space. Absolute is measurement and apparent space.

Literally, I hope. Maybe you'll die and melt into nothing. 😜

There is no we to be the Absolute. There is only Absolute. Absolute being everything timelessly. 'We' suggests an object. There are no real objects called a we. We is separation.

Exactly. It's all empty. Seeing sees emptiness. Emptiness is seeing nothing. Nothing is being seeing.

Yes, fine. No need to have a forum on spirituality if we're going to discuss what is seemingly appearing to happen. Ok. The dog is choking. The cat is eating. I'm going to work. My car needs fixing. I am not my toe. All relatively experienced. So what. Why discuss that on a forum of this nature. I say what I say because that's actually the case without the stories, ideas, concepts and abstractions from the dream of the separate self. It's more exciting and real than the made up stories of the I AM, in my opinion, so it's worth talking about instead of dead stories that isn't even happening in the first place. It's not even about grasping or intellect. It's the Absolute appearing as that in ether case. So it really doesn't matter if the "person" says they've grasped it or seems to be intellectualizing. In both cases it's still Absolute as both and is impossible to grasp and is seeming to be intellectualized but not really.

Who are they. They are also THIS/LIFE/REALITY/GOD..whatever..saying this. It is uttering itself. There is no you or I to exist as something. That again is limiting reality and from the subject/object paradigm in the dream of separation. Exist means to stand out and nothing stands out in wholeness. There is a sense in the contracted energy that may seem to think it exists in timelessness, but that's the illusion. There is no me to exists or that can even exist, it's impossible for anything to really exist. Existence is NOTHING.

Another misunderstanding. How can everything be happening to everything. You feel separate so now everything is abstracted and turned into subject/object paradigm as in "life is happening to something". No, life/Reality/ just is. For it to be happening TO something suggests limitation. You are limiting Reality with this statement. Happening to something also suggests meaning and purpose which is also a limitation.

Here it Is right here. This is what the "me" doesn't know/understand because it can't. When there is no you/me/I existing as something ALL THERE IS IS GOD/ENERGY/BOUNDLESSNESS/ALL THERE IS. So, if anything, though not really, it is you that is denying God by saying you exist as something. God is not a something as it is everything so there cannot be a me or you or we or us or them or any pronoun existing anywhere as God. There is no you to be God.

There's no one that can become the Universe. That empty space you describe is energy being space. Energy being everything including bodies. Look at it this way. There's walking through energy that is being the space you're walking through. Energy being a body, energy being the space. We can call that God if we like - still energy. Energy is being everything and that's how nothing is actually happening. How can anything be actually happening when everything is everything. Meaning, nothing is actually moving because movement requires an outside thing for something to be moving in. Energy is everything including the apparent movement. Energy is what is being whatever it is that requires movement to happen along with the objects that seem to move. Nothing is actually moving. That energy being space is actually an illusion to an observer. . Without an observer there is no space as in deep sleep. No observer there. The observer is what creates space between subject and object. Go to sleep - no space. Wake up, space appears. Space is illusory. There's none in wholeness, just energy appearing as space, but only if there's seeing happening and an apparent abstraction of that seeing by the illusory observer which is you. That's the dream.

No, I didn't mean it as you were arguing a case. It was a figure of speech. Just seemed like a lot to unfold. I just see it simply as seeing is the case with no one doing the seeing. My cat and I jumped earlier from hearing a loud noise outside. She jumped and I jumped. She looked outside, I looked outside. Someone just dropped a trash can and it made a loud noise. She has cat ears, I have human ears. She has a cat body and I have a human body. We both heard the same noise at the same time. How's that. That's the point i'm trying to raise here. Not perceptions or translations, just the raw sound of the noise heard by two entirely different species. The sense perceptions seems to not be owned as in my ears that hears. No one hears, it's just hearing happening. Hearing is what's happening but without anyone doing the hearing. That's my point. This is my body and that's her body, but we hear the same things through different bodies. Insert any circumstance and any sense except the feeling sense. She cannot even see herself in the mirror. I already tested that but she can see me. Weird.

@Natasha Tori Maruok. I rest my case. Too much going on there.

Everything is Absolute. Infinite. Perception is illusion. My hand is Absolute, my toes are Absolute, a cup, a tree a rose, a cat a dog, all Absolute in their own right. They only appear separate and finite to the observer. That's an illusion. There's nothing that isn't Absolute. Absolute is all there is. Relativity is illusion. It's not really happening. I mean to show this in this thread but no one seems to be getting it. I couldn't see the same thing you're seeing or hearing if those senses weren't Absolute.

What I'm trying to get at in this thread is showing "non-separation". Showing how seeing, for example, is Absolute all on its own. You're not seeing, I'm not seeing, it's just seeing.

This is pretty much it; except the word experience, i think, puts the question in a different context and now gives room for interpretations and references to one experiencing an object rather than just the raw seeing of it. I like the way you rephrased it, though.

Lol, mine too.

Well, that's a nice insight. Probably. Something to ponder. Won't know for sure, though. If that's the case though, it has to be for everything else. I see a traffic light, you see a traffic light but it's not the same traffic light. Replace for every single object that's seen by multiple people. That's a lot of duplicates. A million man march with one speaker, all see the same speaker or is it a million speakers. One for every set of eyes. See what I mean, weird.

I believe this is possible. To what extent, i'm not sure. I've heard of mother's feeling their child's pain and also twins.