Princess Arabia

You really think someone should apologize for saying something like this. That's absurd. I'm still replying but I understand it was frustration why I said that and that's not disrespectful at all. I said maybe, not that you were and I said the words "I don't know right after that. We were on the topic of disgust which you brought up first relating to how women see men. I was merely suggesting that you were speaking about yourself. I got disgusted with your bickering and whining about women is not an attack on your character and personality. It would be like me saying someone's post made me feel disgusted, how is that an attack on a person personally. If I said I felt disgusted by YOU that's different than saying I was disgusted by your bickering and whining. "I'm so disgusted with putting up with men's shit is not being disgusted by men sexually" just giving an example. Even just saying I'm disgusted with the bickering and whining isn't an attack on your character and personality. I'm glad this shit is in writing. These are interpretations on your part and took out of context. If I said YOU DISGUST ME that's where I would need to apologize, but I didn't and there is a difference in the use of the word disgust there. Me saying why I wrote the response without punctuating, paragraphs and with mistakes left unchecked is seriously not a reason warranting an apology and ranting about how I don't want to speak to you again because it's frustrating to because you never have anything good to say doesn't warranty an apology either. It's how I felt, how I still feel and I said it without being disrespectful, cursed or derogatorily, and I'm speaking with you now just to clear up certain things. @Tenebroso Just to note I said those things that it's saying Tenebroso said. It's just i quoted it from him quoting me. Just to clear that up.

Ok. How do you know it was the personal self that made that choice. How are you so sure you're not some sophisticated robot that can believe things, feel things, move things, decide things, choose things but you're not really, only seems that way. I'm not saying you're a puppet but maybe, just maybe, that choice to choose a banana over the other was energetic and the choice energy made that choice using your hands. Maybe the energy over here and the one over there is the same energy interracting with itself and the mystery is in how it's done.

@TenebrosoI read that rant again and i did use the word "fucking", once. I apologize. The only other thing i will say is that maybe I exaggerated a bit about not responded to you ever again, maybe that was a bit much. I'm still open for your quotes on specifics. My tone may have been a bit harsh but I'm not apologizing for feeling frustrated. That wouldn't make any sense to me to have to apologize for that. If I had expressed that frustration in a violent, condescending, insulting or disrespectful way, then yes, but I didn't. Point to me where i did. You spoke about me being frustrated with other men, my tone, spiritual high-horse and me thinking you're beneath me. None of that was said in my response. Those were all you giving your own meanings to what was said and now you want me to apologize for your meanings.

If you can quote me something specific that i said that I need to apologize to you for, I will. Other than that, I was frustrated with you and i expressed that. I'm not sure how else frustration should look like. If you're asking me to apologize for being frustrated, then that's pretty balsy and is not appropriate as no one should have to apologize for the way they feel, only how they've expressed that feeling and I don't see where anything I've said that was disrespectful or an attack on you personally that I need to apologize for. If you do, please quote it and i will gladly review it and apologize if I see where I should.

Of course it seems I'm choosing everything but when I use my understanding capabilities and take my narcissistic ego out the way and the neurotic responses I have towards the world and others and when I put two and two together, there's something there that sees I'm not the doer, thinker and chooser. You're saying you choose somethings and some you don't. If that's not arrogant and narcissistic I don't know what is. Not insulting you personally, as I've called the ego over here that also but I'm saying, and as Rupert also mentioned, it's arrogant to think you're a person making choices in this big ole complex Universe. You don't even know how a strand of hair is grown on your head but you think you're in charge of you. I never said the word predetermined. Nothing is predetermined because that suggests time. There's no time for the Universe or whatever to predetermine an outcome. The body moves on it's own, it does what it wants without a person being there to decide for it. Going out or not going out is what happened. Burning your hand on a hot stove happened. I don't understand how you can make choices sometimes and not make them all the time. Who or what is making the choices that you're not. The Universe, God, Satan, who?

Oh ok. I don't think it's shallow that men wants to fuck every hot chick he sees walking by. Not wanting to would be shallow. It's not that deep.😜

@Tenebroso this is the rant. I don't see any disrespect, anything here that suggests I think you're beneath me. Any thing here other than me expressing frustration with you personally about the constant communication style you have about women constantly and you were suggesting something awful about all or most women because of a unique situation to you and i thought it was important to bring it up and it was something you already made public for the world to see. Why bring spirituality into this also. I don't take that everywhere I go and I can separate the two and speak about practical matters without being on a spiritual high-horse like some like to put it. Leave that out this mess.

No, my rant was exactly targeted to you and in the moment with what you said to me. I'm not angry at men and I don't have any grudges against them. I said what I said because it's a constant thing with you and don't make me have to go dig up the filing cabinet. All I did was spoke my mind without being disrespectful, maybe I can't remember, using the word fucking once. It gets frustrating with you when all you can say is the same ole same ole no matter what the topic is in this section. I challenge anybody reading this, just go to his profile, do it, see ALL his responses on this forum is in this section and ALL of them is about how women this and about how women that. ON ANY DATING TOPIC. All of them. Every single one. So, I'm not frustrated with men, I'm frustrated with you. You and i have talked many times on here and have had many discussions but there cones a time when enough is enough as it doesn't seem like you want to converse but you just want to rant against women and it's not something I want to get into a competition match with the person over and over and over and over again. Read my rant to you and there's nothing in there but a rant and no disrespect and i brought up the scar thing to show that for you its personal and what you say about the disgust thing doesn't go for all or even most women. It's misleading to an audience reading what you're saying because they'll believe it's a general thing and not from a personal experience you had with a particular woman and now youre saying all or most women find men disgusting.

It's no war. It's just being a man.

Listen. This is a public forum where you wrote about it openly for thousands of people to see in the thread by Emerald about dating advice for women. So please don't act as if I know you personally and brought up some secret about you on the internet. I brought it up because I found it necessary to point what you've stated in the past and that you are responding from a place of hurt, and it's personal with you. You are not generalizing as much as you are talking about something that happened to you when you speak of the disgust you say so many women have for some men which is probably the same amount of disgust they have for dog shit, for someone pissing in the street, an old grimy slimey perverted old man and a disgusting looking beard and maybe their own period blood. Aren't there things and people you're disgusted with in life, why 'ick on women for theirs.

Ok, use this example instead, if you decide to sneeze or yawn which one will you choose. We can't pick and choose choices and decision-making and only choose some things and not others. It's either we choose everything or we choose nothing. Did you make the choice to: having the need to pee, feel horny, feeling hungry, scratch that spontaneous itch, did a sudden reflex when the car was seconds from hitting that man, instantly remove your hand in 000.002 of a second from that hot scorching pot and where it takes time to even process the hot pot then time to remove the hand, all this done before you could blink. Where is the choice-making in any of these scenarios. Like I said, can't pick and choose when you have choices and when you don't. Going out or staying home just happens without a person doing it just as that quick reflex just happens without a person's decision. Things are appearing and disappearing, happening or not, all on it's own already and without a need to have a person behind the wheel.

Penguin my dear Penguin, who are those 66% of women in relationships or married, who are they with. Men, right. So 66% of women of a certain age are married or in relationships so that equates to at least 66% of men who are also in relationships or married because they are not in these relationships with themselves. Age is not the important factor here in this discussion.. Showing how women's numbers are higher just shows how men's numbers are equally high to match. The only difference might be the age difference.

This is pretty obvious. Problem is we don't generally operate that way. We don't usually care about getting laid with strange random dude we don't know attractive or not. It happens, but it's not a care and a desire that most women have. Women crave sex with a particular guy not just the sex itself and that guy took time to meet and emotions took time to process for that to happen while a man can see, want and instantly desire sex from a woman he doesn't even know. So, your sexual preference options are abundant while ours is scarce - point of the post.

Thank you, precisely the point i'm trying to make. That is the point of the post. The term "women have more options" is misleading and I just wanted to clear that up to note that no, we don't. Tenebroso seems to think if the men's abundant options doesn't lead to sex then it's worthless and that's just in his personal experiences and is just ranting and raving and saying the same things he says about women no matter what the title is and sounds like a broken record on the dating section.

This discussion is pointless with you because of your obvious disdain for the circumstances surrounding your situation and personal experience. I saw a comment you made to Emerald about your scars and taking off your clothes once and how the woman you were with looked at you in disgust and now you're saying most women look at men with disgust. I'm through with you and even replying to any of your comments in this section. It's pointless and will not be advantageous because you take every topic and rage against the machine about your own personal trauma-based youth and onward and not taking into consideration that your situation is not the majority of cases. Saying generalized things about women that you believe to be the case is one thing but ranting about all women because you have a situation is just unbearable to listen to every time with you. This is why I don't bring up certain personal experiences I've had with men in conversations like these because I understand it's uniqueness to me and is not how men generally are and there are some decent men out there men who love women and would do anything for the woman he's with. Why a judge all men because of some asshole experience even if they were more than one. My point is that it's a numbers game and men will say this all the time when speaking about approaching, so if you have more options with whom you WANT to sleep with the cards. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but you don't have to sound so fucking angry about it and people have different opinions about things all the time and can disagree without thinking the other is trying to troll or be condescending. It's There are guts on here in loving relationships and when I go out on the weekends sometimes I see lots of loving couples both young and old and also in my daily life just going about. Women aren't going around being in disgust with men in general and maybe you're one to be disgusted by, I don't know, but no need to carry that over in a general discussion and saying I'm wrong just because you were personally traumatized and you have scars on your body that some women are disgusted by. I deliberately wrote this response like this, no paragraphs, left mistakes and all and minimal punctuation because I'm ranting and got disgusted with your constant bickering and whining about women due to your own personal experiences without at least acknowledging that those experiences are just your own. Goodbye and no need fir me to even speak to you again because you only comment in this section and its always something bad to say about women so I won't be missing anything. Chow.

You're still making my point here. Do you think these women are there for how much sex they can have. No, They're there for whatever reasons they like those men and I'm sure it's not for an abundance of sexual partners. Those men are probably cheating on those women because they find other women attractive or because they have options for sex. Those women are probably there because their options are probably limited. "have little control for how much sex they can have" is a man's idea. Women don't have this problem. The problem women have is finding that ONE man she enjoys having sex with. Men can enjoy having sex with multiple and an abundance of women IF THEY COULD. That's the premise of this post, not the type of men women are sleeping with.

Still not going against what I've said. It's obvious to me at this point you have not grasp the point of this post and only heard what you wanted to gear and haven't processed what is actually being said. I've given you a place and space to rant again about your personal experiences but it would be appreciated it you would read and understand what I'm trying to say. Everything you've said so far is in accordance with my post. You are naming off things, reasons, circumstances and situations that and why women's sexual PREFERENCES are limited. All you need to do is put away your grievances and see what it is the post is about. It is not who has more options but who has more people they want to sleep with and youre adding to my point by just giving reasons why women's options are limited - EXACTLY WHAT IT IS I'M SAYING. Thank you for strengthening my point even though I doubt you'll ever see it because you're not reading clearly what the post is saying.

Women do not view sex the same as men do for the most part. Millions of women are out there in the world satisfying men's sexual needs on a daily basis. Women don't require those needs from strangers. If men were out trying to get to know women and wanting to be with just that woman they would be more successful, instead just looking for sex is more challenging other than with workers. You even said it yourself, high status men experience true abundance, as if an abundance of women is great. Yes, but only for men. Women don't require an abundance of sex. Can't be mad with us for that. I know your story from what you've said too without getting into specifics so you can't be so general in your arguments because its not like you never had any internal problems or anything troublesome and still can't find a woman. Those kinds of things will carry with it challenges but we can't be mad at the world and generalize because our situation is a bit challenging.

Youlre just making my point even clearer. Thank you. If you read what I was trying to put across and not just wanting to rant about women, you'd see that I'm saying the very same thing you're saying, Women's options are limited. There's nothing in that statement that disputes what you're saying. Youre just giving reasons why.

I knew my post would be mis read and all you guys would see is women have more options and men don't. Please read the post for what it is and not what you think I'm saying, please. Women do not have more options for who they want to sleep with is the point.

You're making my point. Men have more options with whom they want to sleep with women don't. They're not going because they can't find the type of woman, it's because the women don't have the options that men have. Youre saying it yourself it's the women who have no interest not the men. The post is about sexual preferences not options for sex. Well, both but the point is women's options are limited.

No, it is DIFFERENT. Men won't like it when you tell them it's all about how you look, but 20yrs of experience doesn't tell me otherwise. Women just don't go around lusting after strange men. Imagine if both sexes were like that. There wouldn't be a balance now would it.

I can't tell how many times I've gone out and seen lots of couples, lots of women kissing up on average looking guys and normal man to man relationships. Go to a night club on the weekends. Stay till after hours how many are hooking up. These guys aren't hatch owners and jet flyers. They are regular guys that just knows how to attract women. The post is about options for sex not women looking for status and what a guy can do for them.

I've seen this. Can't tell the narcissists and arrogant beings that they are not a person. They'll tell you how much they are in control and making choices and how humans are the most high and they are soooo doing everything in the life they never asked to be a part of. There is them and there is.....whoever they worship. I'm not saying anybody is God, but I'm saying there's no individual beings in charge of anything. It's so obvious, it's overlooked.

Read and understand my post, guys. I'm not speaking about the secondary cause. I'm speaking of right away, spontaneously, in the moment. Men's options are abundant. What is1000 approaches or 500 or even 50, if that's not abundance. Closing is a different story. I didn't make this shit up. This forum alone shows the abundance of options guys have. Do you think I could find even one or two guys i'd love to freely have sex with within a week's time? Maybe not. Much less every attractive pants that walks by. Takes more than that for most women. Let a guy see a hot sexy chick walking down the street. Then another, then another, then another, then another. He would be drooling and getting a hard on. Tell me a woman would be ready to hit the sack with 10 handsome men that walk by. That's the difference. Again, men have more options for actual sexual preferences. Women only have more abundance when it comes to being approached and doesn't equate to actually having sex. We don't want to have sex with the options you think we have.