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I don't have to ask myself anything. It's just words on a screen. Why do I have to ask who is James. Only a deluded person would ask who is a word on a screen.

This seems to me dualistic. Something appears within consciousness is dualistic. How can one be conscious of not knowing. There must be someone conscious that they don't know which is still a form of knowing. Not knowing is reference to something not known.

Ok, so the statement No ego=no consciousness implies consciousness is the dream of separation and doesn't really exist.

Ok then, so if we say "what I'm conscious" of VS "consciousness is", is that referring to two different things. This is not about intellectualizing but understanding.

Yes, I think that's the issue. Leo says Consciousness is fundamental; but we refer to it as "being conscious of....which implies separation. Notice the heading says "to be conscious of", many are replying as if I'm referring to Consciousness itself and that can be where the confusion lies.

Lol. Who do you think those so-called prophets are, memory appearing as prophets.

Right on!

James doesn't get anything. He's the dream talking to itself and so is this comment.

It's very simple. Nothing is being everything. That's it.

What am I truly. There's an I there and what I am. "It is what..." states something different from the "you" that's truly is. In other words, you're telling me there's something else that exists that I think I am.

What is this and who is doing the abiding in? That's two separate things. Just asking for clarity.

What/who is inquiring into this " I"?

Most of the guys i've been with intimately in the past have been through social circles. Hanging out bullshitting. The rest were through clubs and one-night-drunk-stands in my younger days but weren't that many as I was rarely drunk. Hehe. Drunk for me now is heading home after work and had enough to drink. Don't do drunk dates anymore only work drinking dates.

I used to believe in this notion of gratitude, but I don't anymore. I use the word thankful. To be grateful for, imo, suggests one isn't worthy and should be grateful that something is being handed to you or that such and such is happening. Being thankful, on the other hand, is saying you are here and are thankful to be here and whatever arises, is simply what's meant to be and I'm thankful for it's existence. I will thank the sun for shining, not be grateful that the sun shines. That goes for everything else I'm thankful for.

"Helping others", is a broad topic. There can be numerous ways of helping others. See a baby drowning and going to help, lending someone money for rent, answering a question from someone in math class, helping Leo build this forum by contributing, I mean the list is endless. So it's impossible to draw a general conclusion on what helping others mean for you.

How does that equate to the topic. Are you saying to be conscious is an objective experience and therefore no such thing exist. Not sure, your response is very vague.

Who or what determines what's true. True is an adjective that describes. I have a hand, that's true. If my hand gets chopped off and i don't have that hand anymore, that's true. There was a change there so having a hand is only true in that moment. Therefore, there is no Absolute truth other than what is, regardless of circumstances and circumstances change so it cannot be Absolute. I mentioned nothing about experiencing an animal's reality. I said how they experience life is different from how we experience it because we experience the world through our senses and animals have different sense perceptions than we do. Let's see you go sniff out a murderer's clothes miles away. A dog can, that's why police use them. That's proof a dog doesn't experience the world as we do and that's just in that sense alone. Imagine the others. I don't have to know how a dog experiences the world to understand that their senses are different from ours in certain aspects; so, therefore, they must experience the world differently than us just by that example alone. States exist but the different states that are experienced are not truly perceived because those perceptions vary from state to state and can be interpreted differently according to the circumstance. A happy state can quickly turn into a sad state from the same exact experience depending on how it's being perceived, so that cannot be true. The only truth is that a state is being interpreted but that interpretation is just that, an interpretation. So states exists but their interpretations aren't true only relatively and relativity is an illusion.

Ok, agreed. Chief word here is "you". How does that go for you though. If I'm conscious of being God (just an example), how does that make you God or my cat God, and why is that absolute truth when I'm only going off of my own senses, senses that can change depending on the state I'm in. Isn't that only a perception in the moment? You've made an assumption to where I've learnt this yourself. Plus, i perceive the world differently than you do so what makes an animal, a different species with different, sense perceptions any different. States aren't true; they change and what's absolutely true doesn't change.

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How ironic how this thread is about anti-human spirituality but it turned into a human mess. @Breakingthewall is one of the few here that speaks any sense on the topic and is very respectable in his approach. Whether he's right or wrong and if we disagree or not, I find him to be a good communicator and shows a lot of passion in this field. I see him trying to not offend and is very apologetic if and when he does.

No body tries to be sad or unhappy. It's all about trying to make the self happy. What state are you in now; rest in that. That's it. Searching for happiness suggests you're sad. Trying to maintain happiness is a fool's endeavor. Sad? Ok. Happy? Ok. No difference. Only what you tell yourself. Tell yourself nothing and that's peace. Be peaceful being sad, be peaceful being happy. Chasing happiness and happiness runs. Run from sadness and sadness catches up. What's wrong with feeling sad. It doesn't last and neither does happiness.

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Yeah, I see what you mean, as in the above convo with Mr James there. I see what you mean. When I speak, I don't claim anything to be true, it's a perspective, belief, stance, idea, conceptual. Direct experience cannot be expressed in words as it's now become a story.

You apparently are unaware of what an idea is, true or not, still an idea. Is it being expressed in words - idea.

Besides the point i was making. You just tainted it by saying you're pointing out what the truth is. Now that's authoritative even though still just your idea of truth. I should have known better than to use your comment as an example.