Princess Arabia

Spirituality isn't needed, the same as reading a cooking book isn't needed, but we do it anyway. Nothing is needed, because we are everything. Sounds cliché i know but it is the case. Oh, but I need air to breathe, says who. The one that wants to survive.

Sounds like the sum of 8billion egos😅Luckily you have that much. Don't have to deal with one after the other after the other. Face them all at one time by turning away from the mirror. Don't look into the mirror, see the one looking at the person looking in the mirror.

Awww, got stuck. That's what every piece of equipment will get you - stuck. There's no end to existence. So there can't be a point to get to. I'm always playing, that's my problem😜

Yes, brilliant, as Gettoefl said. I need to change my signature so I don't get ridiculed. Then again, in the end, it said investigate ourselves to find out what we ourselves actually are. I guess investigate thyself is more appropriate according to your piece of summary.

Did you even ask if I meditate. The very notion that you assumed I don't without asking me, I can't take you seriously.

is that the best you can come up with. According to you, that meditation and psychedelic is also imaginary - according to you. You guys should really get to understand what you're talking about so as to not contradict yourselves. If something gets pointed out to me that I can acknowledge is contradictory, I will examine it and go right back to understanding again. If I can't understand it, I leave it alone until I can. I'm not immune either. But you evaded my response by telling me to go use an imaginary substance according to you its all imaginary. Make sense to me and i will listen and or change my mind.

I can see a tree and a bird right now as I type this from my bedroom window. Am I imagining that. No. If I walk in the kitchen and start to tell the story about how I saw a tree and a bird, THAT'S IMAGINATION. Now, the bird and the tree is imaginary.

Are you imagining that statement?

I've never been in a physical state unless it was mental before hand. I have pain in my hand because my sense of touch or whatever sense I used to feel the pain. I'm not saying there's nothing appearing out there, it's only appearing. That pain is being felt on the outside of your body. Take the pain and carry it to the doctor and leave your hand behind. Can't be done, therefore the pain is mental. You see that tree with your eyes, sense of sight, walk away and there's no tree to use that mental sense of sight to see. It's all mental. Saying I can't see the tree but I know it's there is still using memory or some sort of mental capacity, in this case it's thought, still mental.

You are missing the point of what a mental universe means. Cannot neglect anything you know physically. Where's the neglect. Not neglect in the sense of ignoring, neglect in the sense of not knowing it's there. How do you know it's there, by using your senses, can you grab a hold of your senses physically, no you experience them on the mental plane. You cannot know something physically unless you use a mental sense perception.

Perfect example: You know the experience of seeing that question. You could never responded like you did if you didn't know that you experienced him asking you that question. No matter what the response said. You still know you experienced the question being asked. Not saying you know the answer, but just the experience of the question. Alright that's enough.😅

This is not a Self-Inquiry class. 😅😅It's an experience class.🤣

And you're experiencing that you know you don't understand.🤣🤣

No doesn't matter if you've heard about it before. You know it now regardless if you've ever heard of it before. You might not know what it is exactly, but that's not what I'm saying. Say you experience tyjnft (that's not a typo, btw) what is that, if you say you don't know then you didn't experience it. If you say well I did experience it, well you just don't know the name of what you experienced but you still know it.

You cannot even know something you do not know. Everything known is known. If you want to know what something is like that's a different thing from experiencing it. Cannot experience it unless you now know it. Maybe that's a better way of saying it.

You will still know space. You will know about space before hand and not know it; but in order to EXPERIENCE it is known then. Get it.

I go to Spain for the first time in an airplane in a blue dress and got off the plane and took a taxi to the hotel room. WHAT PART OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL THINGS ARENT KNOWN. If you say the whole entire experience.....well you know a plane a dress a taxi and what a hotel room is even after experiencing it for the first time. Cannot experience anything not known.

How do you know you're having a new experience. It's because you know its new. To know it's new, you would have to have something known to compare it to. Cannot experience the unknown. Thats why we don't experience death or sleep.

Lol

Ok

Quite interesting. Only thing is we cannot experience something we do not know. Go and investigate that.

What you are saying here is equivalent to saying the baby doesn't yet realize itself as a person until the shift (getting older) occurs for the self-recognition. Still a person, right. Well, still awakened. The shift did not awaken you. Or you could say, the shift awakened you to realize you were already awake. The baby realized what it already was.

Then how are you comparing 5meo to your natural state and saying that's how you know you're not awake if it's not known. What's not known. Not sure if i'm quite understanding you.

That's all that's happening. Misunderstandings.

Yes, exactly. You have something to compare it to. What are you comparing that state of 5meo to. Something already known.