Princess Arabia

Yes, well said. Just so you know, this is exactly how I felt for 2 to 3 yrs on this forum when pretty much most of the males here and what they've spoken about when it comes to women is all about getting laid. Pretty much nothing else except for a few failed relationships here and there. A three part series was done about it, just about every cold approach advice leans towards getting laid and just about every advice given is about how to get laid. Nothing about caring for the female, nothing about her personality and what they're looking for in a good woman. Nothing about loving women, admiring feminine beauty, nothing about how attracted they are to a compassionate, loving, well-mannered, nurturing kind, respectful female but mostly about body counts, what number on a scale of 1-10 she is and if she's hot or not. Someone even had to make a thread about how not to objectify women. So,.your comment here doesn't have to go as far as the streets or OF but can stop right here on this forum, in this section to see how men objectify women all the time. It's not noticeable because it's so normal, and is an acceptable norm. All one has to do is go through the threads and.comments, so I don't need to prove what I'm saying here. One was just recent saying how he sees women as objects. The comments weren't chastising or demeaning only trying to coach him how not to do that. No one cursed at him,.only tried to not make him feel bad about it. Àll one has to do is go through the dating section of the forum to see the constant objectification of women. No need to reference OF or porn to see this. This is not a complaint, btw, just trying to point out how men objectify women all.the time and as soon as a female speaks about it, she gets ostracized and told to be quiet..

This is where I'm clueless. Why are they looking for relationships with these women on one hand and bashing them with the other. You've made some strong points and it utterly shocks me as to why do we expect these women to personally care about the men they're entertaining beyond what's humanely expected. This is where i have a sticky issue. The rest of the world and it's businesses are pretty much cut throat and competing for consumers but in this field they are expected to care and not do it because grown men are being hurt and taken advantage of. Men who are well aware that it's a business. How? They're spending money to engage. That's how. The arguments against this business just doesn't add up and seems to be coming from a place of personal biases and disdain for these women based on the sole fact they do this for a living and no other reason.

Ok. I'll check it out. It's not that Spirituality is bullshit. It's that everything is bullshit in the sense that we're making it up as we go. It only makes sense as much as the sense we make of it. That's the beauty of life, so no one can tell you anything because it's all made up bullshit. What appears isn't made up; the stories and ideas about what appears are.

You're right, what's the point. Thanks for the reminder to keep it unbothered and stop reacting.

Who said you were. Why put words in my mouth. No one's speaking of enemies here, stick to the issue. This isn't personal.

Can you hear me?

Why ignore somebody over a stupid opinion about OF. Shows you how these fragile little egos can't take a little truth shoved down their throats. Can't come back with anything I've said other than I'm just going to put her on the ignore list. Shut up woman, I need to bash you all some more while we try to sleep wit you all. Go ahead and ignore me some more, please do. Men must love to be manipulated if they keep going back for more. None of you are talking about how no one is forced and OF is a business one has to seek out.

Sorry, but I'm not sure what you're asking.

I don't care who wants to put me on ignore, the truth hurts. I'm not condoning anything or saying the industry isn't toxic or anything like that, my issue is that men cannot understand its a business and are literally taking it personal. They get upset with the women because the women don't have feelings for them. Seriously. Men can just fuck,.fuck .fuck with no.feelibgs attached.but let a woman start a business doing the same and she gets called all sorts of names. I don't see them forcing any of these men to patronize. Please put some or even most of the blame on these men. No one forced them into this. I will not stop.calling out men and their whorish ways as long as they keep picking on working girls. I see all the comments,you guys don't give a fuck about the girls you're trying to fuck either, so leave these working girls alone.

Yeah, issues with men having a pass to whore down the town while women get chastised for it and is expected to love down the town too. Men don't give a fuck about the women they're trying to sleep with bit you want the women to love their clients. Men use women all the time for sex bit women are expected to love these men. Only men who can't handle the truth will have a problem with what I have to say.

Whatever. No men,.no business. It's a business whether you consider.it that or not. It's the men that don't like to face that fact because.it spoils their fantasy. They want the woman to like them that way and not see it as such. Ridiculous. Women need more to like than just a body like men do.

Different reasons. Stop making excuses for the men who patronize the industry. It's in every country, every age, color, race, height. It's everywhere. More clients than workers and for no reason other than they can and love to.

I personally know a guy who goes on OF. He's married, has lots of friends and travels a lot for work. He isn't lonely and desperate. Many guys like him likes this shit. In my 10 yrs of working in this field 80% of the guys I've seen aren't desperate and lonely. They're dodging their wives and telling their buddies. They're guys with long time gfs or married. 10% of the guys I saw were single. Single desperate and lonely guys aren't seeing prostitutes. OF is a bit different as it can be done from the privacy of their homes but it's just like watching porn. Most guys on here aren't doing this simply because they're young, and this is mot their thing. They mostly fit the criteria of what you're talking about. These guys aren't into hookers and pros WHO ARE?? Married men and men who can get women. WHY? Because they can. Go do a survey of desperate, lonely men, they're not mostly out seeing hookers, they just aren't. They're complaining about women. The men seeing these women aren't. Ask THE GOD, he sees hookers and seems to love them. The oldest profession doesn't need lonely and desperate men, just MEN.

It is a vomparison I can make because both have to do with sex. Matter of fact, atleast OF girls aren't trying to make dangerous physical contact where diseases are a risk. PUA's are. Truly pathetic how a business isn't free to be a true business. Everyone is trying to make it personal. It's a fucking business for Christ's sake.

I'm so through with you men always hating on these girls but have nothing to say about pick up artists trying to bait women all day long to get in their pants. One in here even recently said how he's nice to them until he gets them in bed then he treats them like shit. None of you men commented on that and I could rake up a few more women hating comments on here that has nothing to do with men trying to make a living but strictly just trying to get laid. Hating on women just because they cant easily get in their pants. None of you guys says nothing but are always calling these men lonely, exploited and taken advantage of. Don't fucking turn a blind eye on men trying to exploit and use women for sex all the time. It's disgusting how none of you guys speak up on that. Only a minute few I've seen. Other than that none of you care. Well, these men are grown.

Lol. Baiting???? I'm done. Only men that see pussy as a weakness will call it baiting. Its like the alcoholic blaming the liquor stores. What about saying no, thank you. Pathetic to call it Baiting. No one is forced. None of these girls say, oh BTW, I really like you, please believe me, I really love you. Being nice and friendly is part of the service. It's not a plot to bait. Are the stores you patronize mean to you and do you say they're baiting you in to come buy their canned sardines just because they smile and say welcome. Give me a break.

Listen, this business has been around for a long time. It's nothing new. Same for the sob stories. Nothing new. Take it from me, these guys want to be exploited or used or whatever phrase you guys use. THEY DO. Think about it before you rebut that statement. Most of these guys are adults and not teenagers who are naive or new to the business. These guys know what they want, the type of girl they want, the fantasies they enjoy and couldn't really care less if these girls really like them or not, they only act like they do TILL THEY MOVE UNTO THE NEXT GIRL. It's an act for these guys too. The girls are objects just as the guys are objects just like you're only a consumer in your country with a number. Everything is being put on these girls to be the one who cares and who must be in love and treat these guys like husband's. These guys know exactly what they're in for and wouldn't do it if it were any other way because it's part of the allure. NO STRINGS ATTACHED. Go on dating sites and you'll see how many put that in their profile NSA. These guys don't really want you to care, they only act like they do so as not to seem like they're objectifying these women too.

Most of these men are not single, lonely or unhappy. They are not. Stop believing this lie. Most men in that category are out looking for women and trying to get a gf or just totally gave up. Adult industry is mostly being patronized by married men, men with long time gfs and men who like fantasies, variety or are just simply sex addicts.

You said your interview with her made you sick, this post made me sick. The worst of the worst because you were in her face asking her private questions just to fucking exploit her afterwards by betraying her trust. You think you're doing anything here by saying what you're saying but i can tell you that there are some pretty happy clients of hers who are probably happy to have her service and even well aware it's just a fantasy. It's guys like you who can't tell the difference who are annoyed with these girls because you expect for some strange woman you don't know to love and cherish you from afar. I'm a bit ticked because I've had it up to here with guys getting away with being and doing whatever they want while females.are always getting the brunt end of the stick. They can go whore down the town and fuck Sue,.Jane.and.Mary and get a pat on the back, but when women are looking to get paid for their services, they get chewed.up and spit out. ENOUGH ALREADY.

Do you think this famous only fans girl is writing a novel about meeting you. Youre the one making a big deal out of the encounter. She's just a regular female doing a job to try and support herself and her family, while the guys that patronize are there because they cant keep their dcks in their pants,.but she's the exploitative whore. You took the time to interview her and then come on here bashing her like she did something wrong. What did you expect.....for her to change your mind. Make you feel differently about these honest workers. I call them honest workers because they aren't advertising love and marriage and to magically fix.your low self esteem problems. Only fans is obviously a business and one chooses.or not to patronize. Stop expecting these women to really personally care beyond the normal humane expectations. YOU FUCKING DONT EITHER.

Your analysis sounds personal. Such hypocrisy and stupidity on your part. Does Walmart or any other retail company personally care about their consumers. They're in business and we don't care if they care about us on a personal level, just give us good service. Why the heck do you expect a stranger to care about you on a personal level. Shoot, not even doctors care about their patients that much. They're just doing their job for the most part. Calling them exploitative whores is just you whining and bitching because these strange beautiful women don't care about your feelings and couldn't care less about your personal life and rightfully so. Imagine giving that much personal attention to so many whiny men who don't give a shit about you either. I thought you left the forum to pursue enlightenment, how's that going.

A far cry from your last thread cursing Leo out. Reality is bipolar for sure. It never ceases to amaze me - how spontaneous it is. Shit just comes outta nowhere and for no reason.

It's hard to show charm and wit on a dating app. It's a different ballgame.

Women will scream at the Chippendale guys. Doesn't mean they'll sleep with them. Women will admire from afar especially if it's safe to do so.