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They are simply tools. Make no mistake, no different than alcohol, video games, excessive shopping, drugs, food, sex, everything human's do to distract. We all distract. All our minds are degenerate and neurotic. You just think you're different because the things you do to distract may seem extreme and not comfortable to you. You judge them as weaknesses and whatever else you say about them. We're all looking for ways to cope with the mind's insanity. You bully yourself and call yourself a degenerate and a retard; but if you didn't, you wouldn't see what you're doing as a problem. Not saying the cocaine isn't, but you would engage to function the same way someone drinking coffee would. Some tools are more destructive than some. You meditate to quiet the mind then take the coke to revive it. That's the insanity and turbulence the mind carries on with. Allow the mind to be and it will stay calmer.

This is the key to living life right here. I've noticed this too. Whenever I stay calm, things work out; when I panic, it gets worse. It's a practice one develops. This is making good use of the mind. Making it your slave instead of the master. Lots of problems could be solved this way. It's thoughts and the mind that gets us in trouble sometimes, if not always. Ideas and thoughts about life. I stop myself in it's tracks when I find I'm doing it. Two seconds later, I find myself doing it again, five seconds later......then I laugh out loud and simply just notice how the mind is an insistent s.o.b. Practice more and it becomes easier. I notice it with a lot posts. All mind stuff and not reality. Living in the mind and not present. So, yes your comment resonates a lot and is the key. The ego wants control when there's none and it is the only thing that suffers when it doesn't get it.

I see. Maybe he's speaking from the top down, but I do understand what you're saying. Reaching people is the key and they have to be met at the human level consciousness first in order to move up the ladder and transcend.

I know this is a teaching that people say to do and it sounds good and effective. What you're doing is actually strengthening the thoughts. Putting awareness on them, expanding them, giving them life and momentum. In the beginning this is fine but there comes a time when thoughts have to be let go of and not be consciously, mindfully observed. Notice the one that is observing the one doing the observing. Meaning, there is something there that notices you being mindful of thoughts. Notice that. Focus on that more. We shun self-inquiry practices but then we are still confused about reality and our true nature. We call it woo woo and that we are being practical and need to get to a certain point first. It is the only thing needed. When you recognize you are not the doer nor the changeful body/mind, lots of unnecessary problems fall away. You gain a sense of peace and serenity within. Problems still arise but they don't have the same pull and power they used to have. Notice the thoughts, but not mindfully. See them as a function. The mind thinks, the body reacts. You are neither. Take this for whatever it's worth; and I know you know deep down what's going on, but it's the mind's activity that has a hold on you. You are lost in it and every human's problems stems from this. Not normal everyday challenges, but spiritually speaking and all the existential crisis's. This is true spirituality and really the only thing that matters.

Seen this video. Love RJ Spina. Ever notice also people will ask for advice and they don't really care for the advice, they're only reiterating their existing beliefs. Ever heard them say, "that's what I wanted to hear", from maybe one specific advice or they rebut every single advice and tell you themselves their own answers. It's very subtle. Once I started to notice this, I begun to realize nobody really needed "fixing". Sometimes their answers are within their statements or the answers are within the questions. When you realize it's all the same being communicating with itself, you can see right through this. My own life experience reveals this. People will tell you to stop watching YT and videos and listen to people; but if you're watching the right ones, there's a lot of understanding and wisdom that's there to be had. Countless times I've either made a post or had a discussion about something spiritual and turned on YT to see a video on the same subject. It's like the Universe speaking to me to say you're right on. I'm also aware of self-deception, so I still look at it with an open mind and not be too adamant about my beliefs. Was just watching his LIVE yesterday, too. Another thing I notice is people sharing videos of the same people I watch here at home in private. Videos I don't normally share. The synchronicities are unbelievable. I watch his channel all the time.

You just said here the same thing Schizo said. Just in the opposite way.

Ok.

Lol. It's hilarious. Sometimes someone has to tell someone there's no one. lol

Do you think he's the only one. This forum alone has similar stories. Most don't go around committing mass shootings. They just kill themselves and themselves alone. Point is, men will kill themselves out of loneliness. Just this forum alone shows how men take it very hard when they're not in relationships with women.

Try to leave the narratives behind. What you want and don't want, that is. All your ideas about what you think should or shouldn't be happening, etc. Seems like your ego is fighting back. It doesn't want to let go. It's pulling you back into the illusive nature of it's existence and because it's appears to be so deeply embedded, it feels kind of unstable. Try to see it from a distance. Acknowledge it's existence, even though it's not really there. The "me" is probably falling away naturally (not sure), but it's energetic. Imagine a roller coaster ride. Can't get off. You can only use the mind to calm yourself or scream off the top of your lungs. Either way, there's nothing to really do, but to be aware of what's happening without trying to do anything about it, in the sense of changing it, I mean. Give it space to fall away and not put any meaning to it. Saying dark night of the soul, is strengthening it, and now the mind believes it has to fix some dark night of the soul entity. What has helped me is to not put too much narratives on what I'm aware of. To allow for the cravings and changes to appear naturally, feed it and show it some love. Talk to it. Tell yourself everything will be alright and it's only temporary and moving through. Try to eliminate junk food and don't watch scary stuff or very violent things or the news. I'm not sure this will resonate, but it's the best I can do as I hear your cry for help and what came to me as I read your post.

I expected an explanation. It's OK, there's nothing to prove.

Tell that to these family members that this incel was just over complaining. Just one extreme example of which there are others that didn't take other's lives along with their own.

No one there making that decision. The decision is being made. Problem is, you keep focusing on what you don't want. That's why you keep getting and doing what you don't want.

Maybe more years and maybe more experiences will or may not reveal to you that this is only a belief system, assumptions and speculations. When you meet that hot girl who hates penetration and that guy that gets excited with a finger up his butt(not gay), you'll change your mind. Until then, keep speculating, just don't be surprised when it happens because I told you so. Another thing, it's the fat ugly woman (whatever race) that craves penetration more than the hot chick. Ever seen that black dude with the big fat white chick on the beach in the funny memes and he's getting his green card through her...lol or go to a Chippendale male strip club you'll see a bunch of fat ugly women upfront screaming at those male gay guy bulges fantasizing about getting laid.

May I ask what is this "the awareness of non-being" that you mentioned. What does that mean.

I've said this, though...

Everything appears out of nowhere.

Lol. I bet they are. Those insights must feel pretty good. Lol

Convinced yet that life is just a circus clown show. A light show for the dead. Go ahead and try to make sense of it; it will fail you every time. Something else will be in the news tomorrow, next week or next year to make you change your precious little mind about. Be prepared. I know I am. No surprises here. Only surprise will be if God appeared in form and say, tadaah, i'm the real God you've been seeking. Looking like the God of the clouds with satan next to him smiling with his gold teeth. That would shock the shit outta me. Or if the sky went to the ground and the ground to the sky.

Agree with everything except for the last sentence. Girls just wanna have fun. I do agree with the socializing part. I've been in bars and clubs quite a bit and my work depends on it. Looking back, I can see where more men gathered together and the women were mostly, not all the times with other men. The ones who were mostly by themselves (just women) were there amongst each other. The men were looking to socialize more. Men will hang out for socialization more and women to just be out for the sake of being out. This is just generalizing and is not in all cases, of course. I'm speaking from my own personal experiences. You will see this on holidays, special days like St Patrick Day, Cinco De Mayo, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Super Bowl, Work conventions, the list goes on. Men are very social creatures. Women too, but not any more than men; infact, i see it to be the opposite. Go in any local bar and count. You'll see more men drinking it up and chit chatting or watching the game or playing pool. It's very rate you might see a bunch of women together at a local bar without men. Night clubs are a different crowd. Everybody has these days. Not everyone will go hang out at local bars after they get pass a certain age and have outgrown the nightclub scene. Not to mention golf clubs and all those kinds of events that men created to get out of the house to socialize and call it relaxation.

I guess it takes a Guru to say it. When I say things contrary to the notion of enlightenment, I get a lot of slack. These are the things I notice and what causes me to see through this illusion somewhat. It's an ongoing process. A fun one. It's quite comical at times to witness the mind in motion. It's erratic and can be neurotic. That said, be prepared for the minds that are looking to get out of the ocean to be it's own entity. To be in control of it's destiny. They might ostracize you and chew you to pieces. They will share a video in response to this one with another bearded guru who says the opposite. Neither will be wrong or right.

I understand where you're coming from with this. I probably wouldn't use descriptive words like delinquent, disabled or lazy, but you did say those were generalizations. It's about constructs; and in this case, social constructs. There are unspoken rules to the game that are pretty much involved within the constructs. Like cursing at someone will get you a negative response or walking around naked in public won't end too well. Somethings are just simply understood just from being around systems for a while; and in this case, the human system of collective consciousness. Poor grammar will get you labelled as being unintelligent; and just because it's only a forum, it doesn't mean it's not a representation of who you are. Humans pretty much operate by programming and develop habits from consistent practice. One will not be efficient in grammar in one context and lack it in another. It reflects who they are. So, to develop a consistent core systematic "personality" of the forum, which is a direct representation of it's founder, it suggests the proper use of grammar because it reflects a certain caliber of users and it's quality. IOW, some people will never go to a certain store to make the same purchases they could get from another store that's not up to par with their standards. It's the same product, but paying more or buying it from a store that has their seal of approval is how they maintain their integrity. Hence construct. It means different things for different people.

Makes a whole lot of sense to me. The dying of the spouse part, especially. I can see how that can be the case.

I don't agree with this. What you mentioned, except for depression and PTSD are physical ailments of the body. People will go through a physical ailment with more strength than a mental incapacitation. You mentioned depression; that can be caused from a feeling of loneliness. Many tines I've heard, especially men, say if they had the courage to they would kill themselves over not having a gf or an intimate partner. In fact, many probably do. The fact that it's been said indicates that it's probable that some have. Old people committing suicide is also on the rise because of loneliness. All their friends and family died off leaving them all alone. That's just one reason. I find people will fight their diseases quicker than to deal with the crippling effect of feeling lonely. That feeling usually comes after many attempts to avoid it and then the hopelessness kicks in after they've exhausted their attempts. People can still feel lonely being around others. It's because it's not the lack of others that's causing it, it's the mind's interpretation of what it's like to not feel lonely. When that's not met, people or no people will still bring on the effects.

That's like saying there's no difference between the apple and the core. It's just a limited way of looking at an apple. An apple is an apple and perception is perception. (This is existentially speaking). Of course, my perception is different from yours and I cannot see certain things with my limited mind. It's only appearing that way and the mind is appearing to be limited. There's no actual perception or limitations. What you see is what is. The body/chairs/walls/trees etc. That's it. Everything else is imagination.