Princess Arabia

...And at a certain point you'll realize they are not. When the body rots, you will realize it. When your thoughts, ideas, circumstances, sensations, feelings emotions, etc change, disappear and become just a memory, you'll realize they were not. Nothing real changes, nothing unreal exists.

This is speculation and assumption. It's ok, though, I can't be in control of thoughts. It is only true for you and that's ok too.

Ok, thanks.

Just wanted to hear what you had to say. I know whatever you are I am also. We use different words for the same things/meanings at times. So what is awareness, just a thought, a timeless thought.

So you are the I AM.

So, who/what are you.

The body isn't real and there is no spirit. It is all one "thing" of which the body appears and everything appears including the thought that there is a spirit.

No, I had a glimpse of reality being alive and saw it light up right Infront of my eyes but I'm aware it was only a glimpse and an experience. I see the dream as my stories and ideas about reality and not reality itself. I know everything starts with a thought in the relative world but I don't see awareness as a thought but that which is aware of the thought and the dream.

Lol. Funny because I just made a journal entry about time and space and in the end, I said something similar and had to quit and take a break cause the mind was going haywire talking about how time and space doesn't exist.

Pretty good/funny. "imagination is alive" didn't cross the mind. That explains it. Filled in a few holes.

It was funny because of the way he put it. Any other name there and it wouldn't have been as funny. So, it's not just what was said, but who was referenced. We all know how you speak and it was a good replica. Concerning your statement here, "when it's all imaginary", something I'm not clear about, if reality/existence is alive how is the present imaginary. What's happening now, isn't that what is but only the thoughts, ideas and concepts, etc about it imaginary?

Lmao🤣

Never mind. Sorry I even intervened.

That's how you see it. That's fine.

I didn't say suffering doesn't play a role for the mind or that suffering can never be good or that it's not a human blessing etcec. All I'm saying is that it can be used as a tool for the mind either good or bad which is relative and only within the story of the individual. Suffering is not the blessing or the curse, it's the mind's way of thinking that is. Suffering is just suffering. Many have transformed it into something good and vice versa. If suffering was the blessing then EVERYBODY would find it a blessing. It's the mind activity that makes the difference. The mind can suffer itself into inhalation.

If I stub my toe and I'm crying like a wimp and you keep saying it's not that bad stop crying, and I say wait until you stub your toe and feel this pain you won't be saying the same thing. I'm not summoning you to stub your toe or wishing that you stub your toe. It's the same thing. It was a figure of speech.

I'm sorry but I don't believe in this concept. You can, if you choose. I'm not undermining people's suffering either. I've suffered too. We all have. We all have been there. When you realize it's energy at play, you allow for it to pass through without holding unto memories, ideas and concepts about the suffering. One can experience suffering in a whole new way when they are aware of it's nature just like happiness, joy and whatever other emotion. Happiness doesn't stick around because we don't put too many stories and ideas around it. Suffering on the other hand, we resist and what we resist persists. We don't suffer suffering, we suffer the stories, thoughts and ideas about the experience. God did not invent suffering, the mind suffers it's own thinking. God doesn't do anything to us. God is the suffering energy itself. God is everything. Consciousness. You are conscious that you are suffering the energy of suffering. Suffering is it's own entity. When we identify with the body/mind and we believe we are here and everything else is out there, then every thing is owned, including suffering. When we don't, then suffering becomes just another emotion or sensation being observed.

Who are you referring to?

She wasn't summoning hell on you, she was communicating figuratively. Figure of speech.

So does walking, dancing, talking, loving, sexing, shitting and peeing. The body doesn't suffer, the mind does.

If you notice the word suffering ends in -ing, just like walk-ing, danc-ing, talk-ing, ski-ing, laugh-ing. It's an activity. Do you call all those other activities a blessing. Maybe, but only if they've served a purpose for the body like make it stronger. You can also break your leg while skiing and stub your toe while dancing, was it a blessing then. So you see, it's all just activities and the blessing is only when it has served it's purpose within the story..... until it doesn't.

Yeah, only if you live in the mind, past and future which doesn't really exist. It's a blessing for the stories you tell yourself and the egoic structure. It's energy passing through that the mind holds unto and recontextualizes the thoughts that appear and rebuilds a new story.....until it collapses again and the loop continues.

Trying to capture a vision through memory isn't the same as perceiving it in live action. Recalling a memory will have loopholes and not be remembered in the exact same way it was perceived. This is why eye-witness reports all have different stories. You're trying to hold on to what is ungraspable. It's very interesting what you've wrote here because it's a prime example how life cannot be captured and grasped. It is alive and kicking and each moment is a new moment and that's even saying too much as they're not really moments. It's always new. That car you look at is not the exact same car in the next moment, neither is anything else. When you had that vision, that was happening now, it will be slightly different trying to recall it through memory. Trying to use memory is also happening now but not the experience itself that you are trying to recall. This is why it will never be the same and why you lose it. This is why, knowledge, words, meaning etc are all concepts because they are thoughts and ideas about,.....not the real thing.

Go into your room, lock the door, turn off all technologies, close the curtains and shut out the world. That's solitude. The neighbors will still be there.

Ok, thanks.