Lyubov

Discussing? Sure. Why not? To be awake is to be open and that means to be endlessly open to unfolding, new lessons, new possibilities. Deeper understanding. Awakening isn’t an ending, it’s an endless joyous beginning. I guess it’s how you choose to look at it. Arguing? Well I don’t believe too much can be learned by arguing so much. Making a point? Yes why not? I enjoy expressing myself and sharing ideas.

You create your negative emotions through the beliefs you choose. Nothing wrong with that. You have your story and reasons as do I. I’m walking the path of no longer choosing to create them. Because what else would negative emotions be built on but lies? “I’m not good enough, there’s something wrong with me/life.” Is that even true? Do you want to build your perception of reality on lies?

Why do you believe that? Who said anything about control? It’s releasing “control” that releases suffering. You seem somewhat closed off to this which is your choice. Keep in mind you are free to believe you have no choice in the matter. You are arguing in favor of any limitations or suffering, whatever you wish to label it.

I had the same experience in university. Here’s simply what I wish I knew then what I know now. I’ll write it for you. You fundamentally need to realize that you are valuable exactly as you are and every bit of you that resists this and believes it is lacking in some way is completely wrong, and everything you could ever dream and hope for and want in life lies on the side of truly seeing that you are innately valuable as you are, even when you aren’t getting any action or attention from women, even when dating sucks and you see yourself as lacking in your physical needs or relationship needs getting met. You can run around trying to improve everything else from your style to your social skills and learn everything in between. That is great, do that, there are many games in town to play. But your trajectory and the path you go down fundamentally starts with how you see yourself and believe about yourself. Your true connection to yourself, authentic and spiritual. Your true value isn’t outside you or defined by your relationships or women. Connect with this and align with this and watch how everything else falls into place.

I invite you to do self inquiry on your emotions and “suffering.” It is possible to live as love and openness and CHOOSE to no longer creation emotional suffering. Walk this path if you so choose? Will you? Ask yourself why you don’t. Either path you walk is fine. There’s nothing wrong with creating suffering or painful emotions. Uncreate what no longer serves you, create what does. Putting it into words doesn’t do it justice, it’s an unspoken. Your mind knows the truth of what you write, it’s up to you then to live by that truth and align to it.

“You are the creator of your emotions, not the victim of them.”

Ahahahaha I laughed… I remember this. Damn COVID really was something different…

So by vaping you can sort of gently and gradually condition yourself psychologically to take a leap of faith? I think this would be good for me since I don't handle extreme sudden changes well always and I have to cope with those enough already in my daily life. It's good for me to go slow and get used to an environment and practice a bit, gently parent myself so I'm taking off from a really stable launch pad. It's the reason I hate Ayahuasca retreats. It's far too chaotic and messy with any lack of rules or structure to them. I prefer to go it alone from the safety of my home.

No, I wouldn't agree with this. From my POV, awakening is the opposite of that junk. It's the most beautiful crystal clarity of the mind, a feeling of coming home, fullness, being set free. Timeless, boundless, alive. Everything makes sense yet is unknown, an invitation to explore a mystery where challenges await but a sense of endless expansion calls out. It is true sanity. There is nothing insane about it except trying to bring along any issues, then yes you can start to drown. Release them. Float and swim. Carrying around problems though will drown you regardless whether or not you pursue awakening (unlearning).

Well this is the issue. This is what I would recommend you really explore, why you see your self worth this way and if it’s even true. Why do you choose this?

No, you choose who you follow, you choose what information you intake and you choose what you do with your mind and wellbeing. Your creation. My one bit of critique towards Leo would be putting more safe guards into the community to keep guys who may not be ready for psychedelics and this type of work from trying to partake.

I think calling it a collapse is a bit over exaggerated. Probably similar to how people now keep saying the Ukraine front line will collapse. This conflict will most likely be solved diplomatically and it will likely result in Ukraine losing the annexed land. I think Russia will stop fighting when it really starts to feel more economic pain. I think both sides will ultimately experience some form of pyrrhic victory. I don't think either side will really be able to claim much and the fighting will likely stop where it's currently geographically at more or less. I think Russia will give up some of it's conditions like neutral status of Ukraine. There will be some sort of security guarantee for Ukraine.

You sound very attached to results. Women absolutely do pick up on that and it does not attract, it repels. There is a big difference between the guy who subconsciously has all sorts of expectations and is hinging his wellbeing on getting results and the guy who is free in this regard. I would focus more on foundational work around your worth as a man and connecting with your true spiritual value. You don’t sound like you’re having fun. You need to connect back to why you want to relate to women in the first place and start valuing yourself first. Men like this radiate an energy that is fun because they genuinely are having fun and not putting pressure on it. Tap into this.

If you feel worthless, look toward your inner light and spirit. You don’t need other people, family/friends or women to make you valuable. You are innately valuable as you are regardless of what role you play in the human society game. If you lose track of that and have to look elsewhere for justification you will be chasing a ghost.

What Leo said is correct, and is really the culmination for all painful emotions and experiences where you’re not as one. I think some people each have a different story and all of our lives are different so there may be some different story or painful experience but it culminates in the same thing. You are spiritually valuable whole and one as you are. The human / ego / inner child side really needs shepherding, this is where yin and yang come in. You are gentle, loving and accepting of your human side who believes it needs people’s attention and approval to be whole, that’s fine. We accept that and recognize that aspect of human life. We then focus our energy beyond it towards that which is always whole here and now and will never leave you or change (unlike people who do come and go). There will be this natural flow and recognition where you start to align with what’s true and feel at peace. Keep in mind this isn’t a race and doesn’t have to be forced. It’s little by little each day with no timeline or finish line. I myself am still working on this amongst the plethora of other beliefs I have. A lot of mine circle around me being a “bad person” due to disapproval from my parents and beliefs that I can’t cope with the changes in the world and not being good enough because of this. The thing is that we live in modern society with responsibilities that offer us each a unique path back home. Trust the natural unfolding with your uniqueness.

Don’t worry, you guys will unite around ethnic cleansing and stealing more Palestinian land and killing more Palestinian citizens on the land you stole from them. Nothing unites a group of people like a genocide.

Wasn't there some bust of some monks selling meth once?

I wouldn’t say it’s certain. There’s a real possibility Israel destroys everything around them and builds up such a strategic advantage that it will be swept under the rug. Think about what the USA did to natives. But I think what’s more likely is some degree of aid will be cut and international support will be so overwhelming that they have to scale back their Zionism. It’s not likely Israel will have to give back all the land they stole.

Keep in mind there is no path towards peace and likely won’t ever be. Because peace means capitulation and surrendering to thieves who stole your land and killed your ancestors. There is also a LONG fight ahead too. It’s generational and Palestinians won’t forget this war or all what’s happened before since the Zionist inception of “Israel.” Palestine and the Arab world far outnumber the Jews in that region. There is a possibility of Israel gets it’s aid cut (very likely as boomers die) and other states recognize Palestine that Israel will be forced towards a day of reckoning for their crimes.

It shows how little Jews actually learned. Wanting to always be the victim. That’s tough and at the same time they became the nazis themselves now. I’m Jewish btw. My grandma had to flee Germany for the USA. Was stateless, lost her dad to nazis, etc. I see Germany/Poland as my ancestral homeland. Genealogically we were there for 800+ years. I don’t need to spin a tale about a made up country that isn’t even 100 years old and how I’m indigenous to it.

The thing is though that's usually a conscious and natural choice that is made with ease after someone has let go of a lot of the beliefs that tie them to society for things like approval, validation, etc. So in a sense it's sort of a form of transcendence. It's not them being edgy or trying to be above society. I don't think the guys here who are posting in the dating sub forum should be thinking about this.

Yep

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/23/business/sports-gambling-risk-young-men Has anyone noticed how rampant sports betting and crypto betting has become among gen z and gen alpha guys? ESPN and UFC has marketed this shit to their viewers so much. It used to be illegal to gamble like this and you definitely couldn’t advertise it. Now huge brands, large social media accounts are marketing draft kings and similar shit. This is absolutely disgusting. Not only can young guys not get laid in the USA anymore but every single brand and vice looking to scam them are like vultures, just waiting to catch them with fear based hooks and easy dopamine. There’s even a trend where guys who work minimum wage jobs will film themselves gambling their entire days earning on a blackjack hand. Discuss this problem and share any information on this new wave of gambling addiction.

Ain’t this the truth. I learned this one the hard way after thinking I knew better with every person I interacted with when talking about life. I do think there’s one thing we always can do though when we meet someone we believe isn’t really valuing truth, stay silent and not engage.

While I agree with your assessment that many people choose to not connect to something greater and not live a life aligned with truth, I think your tone is too outward focused and not really as aligned as it could be for yourself. Even if the world wants to play a fools game, so what? The point is we ourselves don’t have to get caught up in it all. You seen the herd run off the cliff. Be the one that stays back and lets them. That’s the only way they will learn. We ourselves are learning as well. No need to doubt ourselves. We can cope no matter what until the day comes until we don’t and it doesn’t change our value. No need to get wrapped up in ideas in what the world could be. It is what it is. Just focus on yourself. There’s still an infinite amount of joy and reasons to live even through all the mistakes people make. Keep in mind how hard life was prior too. Relatively speaking we went a bit soft, we got to have more gratitude for what we have and do our best. A lot of people went through some tough times jsut for us to talk on the internet like this. This is at least my thought process when I see all the negative news on my phone.