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You are not explaining yourself clearly, that’s for sure. you didn’t answer the question. You once again treat this as a philosophical discussion about what is more rational instead of a scientific investigation into what is actual . what is more actual and tangible? Consciousness/experience? Or your ideas about what an “absolute “ should be ?

Take a breather. Don’t just say outrageous nonsense in the heat of the moment . Take a break . If you want of course.

You’re theorizing . In your direct experience right now is the “unlimited being “ experienced and substantiated by your consciousness or is your consciousness an emergent phenomenon from some hidden absolute being which isn’t inherently conscious? Which one comes first in your experience..not in your logicing?

thank you for sharing this . It was a mistake on my part to lump Nisargadatta Maharaj together with Ramana Maharshi and Robert Adams.there is a fundamental philosophical difference between them regarding the nature of consciousness and the Absolute. Nisargadatta repeatedly emphasizes that the Absolute (Parabrahman) is beyond consciousness. For him consciousness itself and the sense of “I am” and the entire field of experience is NOT the final reality but a temporary manifestation that appears and disappears. He seems to equate the Absolute with a state of complete absence..not consciousness..not experience not being in any ordinary sense. He often uses deep sleep as an analogy ..not because deep sleep itself is the Absolute but because it points to the absence of conscious experience. Nisargadatta says The Absolute is beyond both consciousness and unconsciousness and beyond being and non being and beyond all categories the mind can conceive. We can discuss that and find out whether it’s true but again through direct observation not only through thinking rationally because rationality isn’t fundamental.

Correct .

Mad respect !

If you have a question ask away and we’ll see if advaita has an answer. stop tiptoeing around.

@Breakingthewall thank you for your participation in this thread.

It’s actually the balls not the dick .

And when you shut up what is left ? This below ? lol

@Breakingthewall what you’re overlooking is I clearly set the rules straight from the get go . no speculations ..no theorizing .. no thought experiments. only direct investigation.

This is theorizing and abstraction. Pure falsehood .you’re 180 degrees on the wrong direction.

That was answered clearly in OP. It’s not a question of“Why would it be that way?” or “Isn’t a simpler explanation better?” .Those are curious questions but they’re speculative. They don’t determine what is true.The more fundamental question is: What is undeniably present? The one thing that cannot be doubted is consciousness itself. Every thought..perception..memory and even your belief in a reality Independent of consciousness and scientific observation appear within consciousness. We have never encountered anything outside of experience..and experience is inseparable from consciousness. consciousness is epistemically fundamental..it is the necessary condition for anything to be known or experienced at all. Whatever reality ultimately is.. it is only ever encountered through consciousness. So if consciousness is fundamental.. that conclusion is not based on speculation about what reality should be like ..but on recognizing the one undeniable fact .

I clearly stated that it’s sickening to me to read the same confused discussions everyday on this forum about these topics . i clearly stated the questions of my inquiry. i clearly stated that these questions can never be closed off by thinking about them abstractly but only through direct investigation. I clearly pointed out to you the falsity of saying the mind and body observe consciousness instead of consciousness observing them . im not going to discuss this topic theoretically . If what you are saying fails against empirical investigation then it’s not worth anything . no need to say I’m sorry . It’s okay .

Ok you’re totally inconsistent. I don’t know what to make of your statements .

You are trying to point to that which can never be pointed to . I totally get what cannot be ever gotten . But this thread discusses specific topics.

I agree that as a team England made better performances . But trust me ..Messi is a team onto himself lol . The final is France vs Argentina . Having Messi or Ronaldo in your team is like starting a match with an already leading score 1-0 lol.

But have you actually carefully examined what you are saying ? The body is nothing more than flesh and bone. It does not contain consciousness..it appears within consciousness. Every perception of the body is itself an experience arising in consciousness.No one has ever experienced a body outside of consciousness. And the “mind” is not an object that exists somewhere in the brain or the body. There is no physical thing called the mind. It is simply a conceptual label for the continuous flow of thoughts and memories and emotions. Thoughts do not generate consciousness.. they arise within it..disappear within it and are known only because consciousness is already present. You are not carful enough with your misinformation. I’m not saying you are misleading people on purpose but you are incapable of admitting that your perspectives might be false .

Being God is just being . There is literally no action step at all . Zero . Nothing to do. No questions to answers . No distinctions to make between control and no control . the mind thrives on these things though .

So you’d think England eliminating Argentina? You forgot that Argentina has Messi . I honestly don’t think it’s so far fetched that Argentina lifts the cup again.

The problem is you assume that this dead end is wrong or problematic or something to be fixed or correct . That’s the very illusion that you have to break through for gaining enlightenment. And of course in the ultimate sense enlightenment is the very recognition that there is nothing to seek because as you say you are already God /Truth right now just by being here . Most people (including spiritual seekers ) are caught in the hypnosis that there is an actual path and actual end all be all ultimate truth to reach hiding behind the darkness of the universe lol . There isn’t . This is it here . There is nothing to achieve or to attain or to search for . And recognizing this is what enlightenment is . I’m not saying there is nothing beautiful to discover or that life has no depth or you can’t become wiser or experience a richer and diverse exciting life . I’m saying that what is being sought is already the very reality in which the search is happening.

I’m predicting France to beat Spain..even though it’s going to be a very tough game. Both teams have incredibly talented players..and their levels are very close. But I think France is just a bit tougher and more complete as a team. And I definitely want Messi in the final. Even though I’m a Ronaldo fan..but anyone who truly loves football would love to see Messi in the final against Mbappé or Yamal. I’m super excited..these semi-finals are going to be amazing.

If you are a normal healthy straight male then don’t take estrogen .

I honestly have no idea what happened with his claim that he would demonstrate an alien transformation on camera. Only Leo knows what actually happened.. unfortunately he still hasn’t clarified it..but instead he’s offered excuses that avoid addressing the obvious possibility that it was another psychedelic experience he misinterpreted As @UnbornTao suggests. That said..this is exactly why I don’t see the value in aggressively attacking him. People make mistakes. Humans get things wrong.If he’s mistaken then criticize the claim..point out the inconsistencies..and move on. What I don’t understand is the endless hostile rants. They accomplish nothing. They don’t help us..they don’t help Leo and they don’t bring anyone closer to the truth. All they do is fuel ego battles between keyboard warriors and deepen the divide instead of creating any chance for understanding or meaningful discussion. If the goal is understanding each others then criticism should be rational and polite .If the goal is just to vent outrage and score points..that’s a different conversation. And stop calling me a Leo fanboy . It’s not like I hang out with him everyday ..I just watch him on a screen .

You appear to make pretty wild claims lately without warranty and take it to extreme pipe dreams . Go watch his latest series on deconstructing rationally (as an example )..that’s some world class philosophy. how could a mentally ill person show such exceptional mental capacity? please explain in detail what do you mean by “insane “?