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We don’t know (and probably cannot ever know) however, if there was nothing then we wouldn’t be here to comment on it. Its not circular reasoning . I know that what i say is coherent because it makes sense to me . The goal of reasoning is to make conclusions about reality. For that you need premises that are rooted in reality, which are demonstrably true. Circular reasoning lacks those roots and therefore, while creating an own cosmos of coherent logic, does not allow us to make any conclusions about reality. An example would be You can claim that the Bible says that God exists and that the Bible must be true because it came from God, but that does not mean that God exists or anything in the Bible is true. It just means that it could be that way, not that it actually is that way. I have always believed that sanity is relative to the culture and the times. I feel my sanity is stronger than the insanity I perceive and experience around me every day. In the Roman times, drunkenness and debauchery were fairly normal and considered within the realm of the sane person who fit well into his/her culture and time. Such behavior now would seem to weigh in more heavily on the side of insanity unless one were a privileged celebrity or an un-mentionably rich individual who seeks to define his own place in the culture. Good point. I agree. The past expires into the present and does not exist in the present. the past time expires into the present. The only way of seeing or knowing about the past or past time is to examine what has been left remaining from the past and by seeking memories of the past.which only occur now .

Who told you that reality comes to you through the senses or through mind (whatever that means )? That's a false assumption. Reality is 100% direct . Of course reality is consciousness. But consciousness is not perception. There is a big difference. Perception implies subject-object relationship. While consciousness =being . reality is not the result of sensory perception. ‘Our senses’ as well as ‘our minds’ appear in reality, not reality in them. That which is constantly on the move, changing all the time, dependent on other things cannot be real [e.g., there are no senses without the air you breath, which is ignored as something trivial, attributing to the senses that which in fact is just one link in the causal chain, but not the cause]. To know reality, you must start with the knower.fiind the nature of the knower by questioning that which you learned from others about what you are, on top of which you added your own ideas. Identify all the false ideas and remove them; here’s where logic and reason complete their job. When you know the knower, you will know reality. This kind of knowledge is unique, unlike the worldly knowledge of phenomena. You know reality directly, by being, not with the help of the mind as an intermediary. The mind has no access to reality; all it can do is to identify the false and discard it. Reality will then shine fort, self evident.

OK..many people seem to suggest that .I want to explore this In more depth : Your beliefs act as a filter of how you see the World. There are MILLIONS of bits of information coming at you at any one point. If you tried to take ALL of that data in, your mind simply couldn’t cope. So your beliefs act as filters of what you see and what you don’t see. For instance, tow people can have the same experience and see it differently. You could walk into a store, and the security might swipe a glance at you. If you believe that people are out to get you, then you might take that glance in ENTIRELY the wrong way and believe that the security guard is out to get you. If you have a different believe that most people are nice, you wouldn’t think twice about that glance. Same reality. Two different points of view. And whatever you believe your mind tunes into and helps you filter out the millions of bits coming your way into what ‘fits’ into your World. So if you believe you’re unlucky, you just won’t tune into an opportunity that might be right under your nose, because your beliefs won’t ‘tune into’ that opportunity. Your mind won’t allow you to and you may get self sabotaging thoughts to stop you. Conversely, if you believe that you’re the type of person whom attracts opportunity, you wouldn’t think twice to take action on an opportunity that comes your way. That’s how we shape our reality through our beliefs. The only way to change your beliefs is by CONSTANTLY telling yourself a different story until you break down the old belief and so the new belief becomes more automatic.

I think I know what you're talking about because I'm going through a shitty time of my life. Life is shit, no wonder why u asked this question. But why? Cuz shits everywhere. You wake up, shit. You get late for college, shit. You laugh, shit. You cry, shit. You fart… shit's coming up. More than half of the life is spent in washroom, half in eating, half in doing things you do not know the meaning of and can't explain why you doing it. Like why tf am I writing this? So yeah life is shit. Sometimes other people deal with your shit (mom while changing diapers) but others cannot deal with your shit for your whole life. You learn how to deal with your shit, cuz at the end of the day, its your life, your shit, either get it together, or lose control of your life. Either ways are shitty, but what can I say, life is more shittier than you think. Lol I searched on google 'Life is shit’, and it showed me results of 'Shitty Life Syndrome’ for a moment I was life “wait what? Wtf” lol it's just some shitty syndrome. Have you ever noticed a pig? Where does it live? What's shit to you, is heaven to him. Yes, that's what I'm trying to say. Don't be a human, be a pig. Enjoy the shit all around you and hope that there's more coming your way. Because the more shit you dive into, the more you enjoy. So, enjoy. If I had enough guts to commit suicide I would. The world is filled with darkness, cruelty and suffering. You can't trust anyone and human beings are selfish. What is the point of life? Some people are destined for misfortune whilst others are lucky. Why do people bring more human beings into this cruel world? Plus we all die anyway and become nothing. So what's the point.? We're all full of shit man ?

But you are also philosophizing so you are not escaping this problem. I still stand by my conviction..Believing in something CAN NOT make it a reality any more than giving an inanimate object a name can give it sentience. However, the things you believe DO influence the way you perceive the world. And the way you perceive the world has a huge influence over which parts of reality you’re attentive to vs which parts you ignore. Ie, if you believe that something is real (or possible) you are much more likely to observe evidence about it in reality. Eg. If you believe that Santa is real/possible you will notice things in reality that support (or disprove) your belief; sleigh bells ringing on Christmas Eve, mysterious presents around the Christmas tree, those mysterious presents disappearing when you move out of your parents home

The universe hasn't collapsed into nothing already because well..here it is . We observe it everyday. And it's functioning super well. I don't know if I'm making sense or not. But since people who replied on this thread responded with coherent answers that tells me that I'm making sense . Of course we are not in complete chaos right now because the entropy in the universe around us is not infinite. Scientists expect it to reach infinity at the moment of heat death. But it didn't happen yet . Yeah thats a nerdy point..the sun doesn't rise..its the the rotation of the earth around it's axis . So we could reframe the question "what guarantees that the earth will continue to rotate around its axis ?"

I disagree. What about the laws of physics? Are they real or just figment of our collective imagination? What keeps the sun rising everday is the rotation of the earth around its axis. If I stopped believing the earth will keep rotating around its axis that won't make it happen. reality is not a matter of belief. Beliefs do not create reality as it is. Sometimes beliefs don’t even reflect reality. For instance, many religious beliefs are basically founded on pure wishful thinking. Such sectarian beliefs have certainly created a reality for millions if not billions of people. The same goes for so-called scientific beliefs like evolution and abiogenesis.

"Your brain farted "lol Well, you are of course familiar with the big bang theory which is the only theory in modern physics and cosmology that explains the origin of the universe..and it says the universe is expanding. And the universe is not only expanding, but the expansion rate is actually accelerating. Essentially this indicates that there is a force still being applied which is making things expand. There are many schools of thought on how the end of the universe as we know it will play out, and one of those theories is “the big crunch,” which indicates that everything will eventually start collapsing in back towards the center. If the expansion of the universe is still accelerating, however, it's indicative that if the universe will end in a big crunch, then chances are it's not even close to the point where it will begin to slow it's expansion… we may, in fact, still be part of the big bang in what has, so far, been a nearly 14 billion year long explosion. It's also possible that the universe is full of dark matter, and that somehow the dark matter is what's facilitating this acceleration. Will we ever find out the answer? Probably not… at least, not until it actually starts to happen…. So ask me this question again in 15 trillion years, and we will see then if the universe is still accelerating outward or if it has yet to begin to slow down… if I were a gambling man I would put my money on eternal expansion and eventual heat death as the cause for the end.

That doesn't comfort me. Seriously though..isn't there anything I'n the laws of physics that prevents that ? Like these cosmological constants ? There must be some force that is holding the universe together and preventing it from just flying apart randomly for no reason at all .. Otherwise this would be a huge glitch in the matrix

Yeah isn't it scary though ? Breaking news.. The universe might end this very second..that's a fact. You can't prove that everything won't just disappear boom gone this very second. No you can't. You want to believe it can't. But it most certainly can. What the fuck is holding everything together anyways?.. Just a creepy thought. Pulling it out of my stuffy subconscious. And be sure you can find thousands of such creepy thoughts. When you understand this you might want to consider to let go of a lot of bullshit that you think you know.

So if I stopped believing that the sun will rise up tommorrow...it won't?

To my mind this is mostly based on expectations. Those who anticipate that life has a deeper meaning or some sort of cosmic justice or balance are vulnerable to disappointment when they observe the randomness or "unfairness" of life. OTOH, those who accept the lack of any discernable "plan" or deeper meaning and concentrate on the numerous aspects of life that are within their personal control or at least direct influence can enjoy the benefits of that influence and control and thus create a local (as opposed to universal) "plan" (their own).

Hume's main argument against causality is that we see things happening in the world in pattern. Then we conclude that the same phenomenon will repeat the next time it's tried. What this also means, is that a truly two linked events will never do anything because they don't have any concrete laws to rely on and it cannot logically justify why past observations must be linked to the future either. Equivalently, it may do anything it wishes because there is no reason why one set of actions is better than another. So no reason why doing nothing is better than doing something. They are all equally good options for it. The universe is lawless to it unless it figures out some new information. Then it means human being are not completely logical beings either. As I type this, I rely on the same assumption that I talked about earlier, and consider this course of action better than others. My actions therefore are completely irrational. There is no way to justify them. It is just that I have a desire, and I'm hoping the said assumption is true and will help me fulfill my desires, even though I cannot logically justify it. My human instincts want me to believe that there is a pattern. In fact my instincts developed like this in the first place because there was a pattern, and because it contained a link to predicting the future. There is still no way to guarantee that the patterns always work, or will continue to work, but biological systems discovered that their best bet to survival was working under the assumption that it will mostly work.

Prove me wrong. Is there a single thing in this uncertain world of ours that is by definition, “impossible?” I think NO . Of course, many people misinterpret the meaning of the word “impossible.” If something cannot be done now, does that mean that it will never be done? No, of course not. For example, we humans used to think that flying was impossible, that it was the stuff that only happened in fairytales. But look at our world now! Airplanes! People probably also thought, at a certain point in time, that seacraft made of metal was impossible. Well, look at our harbors now! Metal ships everywhere! So what really is impossible? In my opinion, nothing is strictly impossible. If you can’t do it, that doesn’t mean that others won’t be able to. A fish would obviously think that climbing a tree was impossible, but little did the fish know that it was indeed possible. For the fish, it was impossible, but for a monkey, it was possible. In the same way, the monkey would think that it was impossible to live in water, but the fish demonstrated to him that it was indeed possible. Now, there are some things that are possible but not plausible, as I like to say. Have you ever wondered why humans haven’t built any flying cities? Many people would say that such things are impossible. But are they really? No! Flying cities are possible, just not plausible. If you build a gigantic metal platform and attach millions upon billions of engines and propellers to it and build a city on the platform, you have a flying city! It is indeed possible, but the cost of building such a mammoth would be extremely high. That is why we are still stuck to the ground. But if something is deemed impossible now, that may change in the future. In some cases, particular things that were possible in the past are now impossible. A good example of this is Greek fire. In conclusion, is anything truly impossible! No. The correct way to view this is, “With God, anything is possible

Why are we always constantly seeking more achievements ,which might take multiple forms ? More money .more sex .more luxury items etc. Why can't we be satisfied with having just about right what's nesscary for our survival and that's it? food and water and shelter and basics of life ? Why do people go out of their way? To me,minimalism seems to be more simplistic and easy to walk through in this life . Minimalism is not about depriving yourself from basic comfort or putting yourself through hardships. It is about developing in yourself the mindset of a monk. We are on a journey on Earth. This journey shall last a few decades. In the grand scheme of cosmos, our lives do not last for more than a blink. When we travel to some place , we try to pack only as much as is necessary. Anything more becomes a burden, an inconvenience. Same goes for life. Pack only that is necessary. Everything else is a burden. I do not see any cons of minimalist lifestyle.

@r0ckyreed You are projecting the idea that what you are experiencing right now has a deeper independent reality to it. Which you call the external objective world. You Believe the world exists when you are not perceiving it. recognize it’s a more of convoluted belief system that requires extra mind baggage.. that careful.. objective.. direct study of experience and reality does not need. In fact.. if you studied your direct experience long enough you’d notice all sensory perception has no solidity to it at all.. it’s just a fluid.. spacious.. fluctuating field of is-ness popping into and out of a void. the “objective” reality science thinks is out there is quite literally impossible if they knew what they were actually studying, which is perception. The thoughts that think there’s an objective layer are also popping into and out of this void. This requires an extremely stable...mindful concentration of what is really happening vs what your mind thinks is happening.

Science can't understand what consciousness is because Consciousness runs through everything. So you can't get outside of consciousness to explain it from beyond. It goes through everything. It runs through everything through different 'escapes'. Sensation or sentience often seen as some form of 'awareness' or a slight comprehension of the outside world. I beg to differ but still believe consciousness can be an object of supporting inanimate objects as having some form of reality to them, despite that not being the purpose of consciousness. If you hit a rock, in my opinion, it will not be aware that it has been struck, as it has no perceptual system of neurological or even slightly intelligent behaviour. It is just a rock, although as I said consciousness is an omnipresent thing so hypothetically, the atoms that respond could be reacting and therefore being aware to the extent of unintentional and instinctive reactivity. So consciousness runs through everything. Even inanimate objects that seem to have no consciousness but are made of consciousness. And as long as scientists assume that consciousness is something that living beings have it will forever remain a mystery.

https://www.actualized.org/insights/sense-organs-are-imaginary This should've been a YT episode . Leo deconstructing the illusion that reality is being perceived via sense organs and perceptual system. Must watch if you want to understand how consciousness and perception work. The main point is that what's occurring right now is not perceived . So the visual field is not perceived via the eyes .it exists exactly where it appears .which is outside the eyes and distant from it . That's just one example.

That's laughable to Any scientist or academic . They don't see different kinds of science or different versions of scientific method. Vodo and witchcraft and psychedelics can never be considered real science. Because science comes with a metaphysical assumptions of materialism as you pointed out . So my point is that science will never fully understand consciousness using the current set of assumptions. Consciousness is forever a mystery to itself. Reality is pure magic .irreducible mystery. How could you use finite tools and methods (science, spirituality, religion etc) to unravel something which is infinite ? An absolute truth in an infinite reality? Don't you see the obvious weirdness of such claim?

This is a cycle version of the liar paradox. There is no easy way to answer it, something which has been known for over two thousand years. If the first statement is true, so is the second statement, so the first is false, which is a contradiction. If the first statement is false, so is the second statement, so the first is true, which is a contradiction. Its self contradiction . Therefore it's meaningless . "This statement is false", it is clear that there is actually no statement being said. The "This . . ." part of the text perhaps enables the text to reference itself, but assuming this self-reference, the ". . . statement . . . " part misascribed this text as being a statement. There is no description or claim about the world being made (even about this bit of text), and so the text does not qualify as being a statement. If, on the other hand, the text had read "This text is not a statement" (assuming once more successful self-reference), then the claim would be a linguistic one that is in fact true, and there is nothing paradoxical happening here. But "This statement is false" is not a statement, as has been shown.

The barrier for science to understanding consciousness is that we ignore the fact that all of our knowledge of the world has come from consciousness. When we think that this world knowledge is separate from consciousness, then we eliminate all of the consciousness that we know about except the misunderstood activities inside the brain. Those brain activities will likely be substantially understood in the future. But people will still have a problem thinking of consciousness as a thing that arises from the brain. In the way that we think of a chair as a thing. Spirituality also doesn't know what consciousness is . You can keep having awakenings forever. And still not get to the rock bottom of what consciousness is . Because its infinite. Will that be an adequate explanation for you?

The statement is incoherent. That is, it uses language and syntax as if it meant something, but it does not mean anything, it does not refer to anything, it makes no truth claims.

I want to bring your attention to a particular logical principle. The principle is known as the “law of non-contradiction.” A=A. It can be formulated in a number of ways, but my favorite natural language formulation runs thus: the same sentence cannot be both true and not-true at the same time, in the same place, in the same respect. It cannot both be and not-be. It’s not both at the same time. Perhaps it can be neither, if you don’t buy the law of the excluded middle, but it cannot be both. Perhaps there is some middle road between false and true, if you want to push it that far, but there simply cannot be something that is both true and false, at the same time, in the same place, in the same respect. So no .such universe cannot exist . How to reconcile that with reality being infinite? I don't know.

Yes .the answer though is that something and nothing are identical. These are dualistic notions that must break down at the ultimate level . Just like a dream st night .it's both something and nothing simultaneously. Further more, wevcan only know what exists here and now and only to the extent to what can be measured here and now. But from what has been gathered here with these limitations, everything appears to be a zero-sum situation. A supersymmetry. And when I say everything, I mean extended to what exists but can’t be measured here (Everett interpretation of QM) and what exists in others universes as well.

Yeah very much agree. Another analogy would be the eye trying to see itself . And that's actually more reflective because the eye is a portal for consciousness. Consciousness is everything and nothing. It always was. .and that is why God Consciousness is nothing. Nothing and everything. and is infinite. We are all connected through our consciousness. The reality you are experiencing right now is an illusion. The real truth is complete awareness; one with God Consciousness and you will experience it or may have already. You created your reality with your conscious imagination. You are doing it all the time, you just do not realize it. You chose this life, this incarnation, before you were born; when you were still spirit. You chose this reality to learn, grow, and ascend from. Oh, there is so much. But I will just stop here lol